Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC is now a LEGIT console port

[minmaster]

i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

 

[Mike Gayner]

Originally posted by: minmaster
i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

Hosts can still kick you for any reason they want (IW were very clear about this) - the only difference is that you won't have the option of deliberately avoiding servers administered by asshats.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: minmaster
i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

sounds like you ignored server rules, as in:
tactical gameplay
no bunny hopping
no noob toobs (aka skill cannon)

 

[minmaster]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: minmaster
i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

sounds like you ignored server rules, as in:
tactical gameplay
no bunny hopping
no noob toobs (aka skill cannon)

not really. i don't abuse jumping, but i'd like to be able to jump and sprint when i feel like i need to. if it is really that important that they limit these actions, they would be putting in a server option to allow/not allow them. these servers that are "tactical" and trying to ban sprinting is a joke imo.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: minmaster

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: minmaster
i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

sounds like you ignored server rules, as in:
tactical gameplay
no bunny hopping
no noob toobs (aka skill cannon)

not really. i don't abuse jumping, but i'd like to be able to jump and sprint when i feel like i need to. if it is really that important that they limit these actions, they would be putting in a server option to allow/not allow them. these servers that are "tactical" and trying to ban sprinting is a joke imo.

absolutely

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: minmaster

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler

Originally posted by: minmaster
i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

sounds like you ignored server rules, as in:
tactical gameplay
no bunny hopping
no noob toobs (aka skill cannon)

not really. i don't abuse jumping, but i'd like to be able to jump and sprint when i feel like i need to. if it is really that important that they limit these actions, they would be putting in a server option to allow/not allow them. these servers that are "tactical" and trying to ban sprinting is a joke imo.

absolutely

I hated those servers too and that's why I never played in them. There was one server I joined that didn't allow running or walking. You had to be in the crotch posistion the whole time. lol. They payed for the server usage, so they can do whatever the hell they want.

 

[looper]

Minmaster et al...

Our PC tactical CODWaW/MW servers' rules:
*move in the crouch-position
*can run/sprint to avoid direct fire/grenade only, or walk w/ gun-sights up
*no marty, dogs, tanks, or bunny-hopping

We have found that these rules make the game more realistic. Constant running/sprinting turns the game into arcade/console chaos. I play the game with my son sometimes on his xBox. There, it is all about 'fast-twitch' reaction time. It is fun though...once in a while. We don't cater to the 'ADD' crowd. I guess some hyperactive folks just don't have the patience to slow down and think a bit.

Our 'Raw: Rebels at War Old Farts Tactical' server is typically in the 'top 30' of all COD-WaW servers playing the game. We have over 100 active members in our clan. If you want to do what you want, as you said, there are literally hundreds of servers with good 'pings' for you to join.

Of course, this will not be the case with IW's upcoming MW2. A shame, really. No big deal, however. Our clan cancelled over 75 pre-orders of the game. We'll just move on to another game in the Spring of 2010.

 

[minmaster]

no offense, but i'm so glad i won't have to deal with servers like that in MW2.

 

[looper]

Hey, to each his own...

with servers like that

Oh, you mean rules to follow?

 

[BassBomb]

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2345588&enterthread=y

 

[GullyFoyle]

Originally posted by: minmaster
no offense, but i'm so glad i won't have to deal with servers like that in MW2.

Are you assuming you know what rules the 13 year old who is hosting the game you get matched to is going to have/enforce, or are you saying you are only going to play games that you or your friends host?

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: minmaster
i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

So you're saying the pro's of no dedicated servers is lack of choice, because last time I checked no one forced people to play in certain servers. There were tons upon tons of normal servers running normals maps without tactical rules, you make it sound like 90% of the servers were tactical.

This is what I don't get about the people who don't like dedicated servers, I've never seen any good reason for it other than they're lazy as hell and can't spend 15 minutes to find a server with the settings they want.

 

[GullyFoyle]

Originally Posted by fourzerotwo:

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is actually the biggest investment Infinity Ward has ever made into the PC version of our games. It?s also the most feature-rich PC version we?ve ever made. IWNET takes the benefits of dedicated servers and allows them to be utilized and accessed by every player, out of the box, while removing the barrier to entry for players unaware of how to maintain a server on their own.

I like this statement from Bowling. Have you ever tried to set up a server for any game? It is usually NOT easy. Have they come up with a way to avoid the typical hassles of dealing with unblocking ports, putting your machine on a DMZ, other obsure settings that are named different things on different roouters, etc, that usually accompanies trying to set up a game server/host?

This is much-much farther outside the typical gamers comfort zone that navigating a server list.

Perhaps I am clueless. I do not have any consoles, nor have I played many recent P2P online games. Far Cry 2 was the only one I can think of that had the option. Perhaps someone that has dealt with this on their XBox or PS3 can speak to how effortless it was.

Perhaps as I said, they have some networking magic up their sleeves.

 

[minmaster]

yup i just want to hop into a server and play, not worry about whether this server or that server has special rules and i can't do basic things like sprint, be forced to play with sights up and crouched, etc. IW probably feels the same way, hence taking this route with MW2. all these custom rules crap is getting stupid. not only are you faced with constantly spamming console messages telling you of 100 different rules of the server, you're threatened by stupid admins. yeah, i will find another server when i realize i entered such server, but it will be nice not having to go through the nonsense so often. thank god you ppl are left out of this game, IW felt the same way as i did it seems like.

stupid rules FTL. RIP tactical nonsense. MW was never meant to be a stupid tactical game. it's a faster paced arcadish game. trying to turn it into arma or graw by force ain't the way to go.

 

[OCGuy]

^ Haha.


No. Have fun with the greifers/TKers/children.

 

[soybeast]

I think the bottom line is, even if you wanted to ignore most of the issues with a P2P hosting system so you could play this game we've all been anticipating, you're going to find it frustratingly bad because most people don't have fast enough connections to host a game. There's a lot of things I'd might be able to ignore, like no mods, but when I have to deal with terrible lag, that's where I have to put my foot down.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Mike Gayner

Originally posted by: minmaster
i was thinking about some of the pro's of no dedi's, and there are indeed some.

when i played COD5:WaW, i noticed a disturbing trend. stupid severs had some ridiculous rules, like kicking/banning me for sprinting, having a certain weapon, or jumping. yeah, i can always find another server, but come on, why can't i sprint if i want to? if it was so important to remove things like sprinting, they would've made server options to toggle these.

i'm pretty sure that servers controlled by IW won't have any of this nonsense. i'm actually looking forward to this IW controlled server setup.

Hosts can still kick you for any reason they want (IW were very clear about this) - the only difference is that you won't have the option of deliberately avoiding servers administered by asshats.

Get kicked a lot do you? Try not being such an asshat and you wont be kicked as often

 

[looper]

MINMASTER...

Wow, you have the attention span of an ant. Like a previous poster just said, go play with the children... enjoy.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: ReepNeep
This begs the question: not buy, or pirate out of spite?

No it doesn't. If you want to play the game, buy it. There is no moral ambiguity here, piracy is wrong. I'm not buying the game because I don't want to play it on their shitty IWNet. If I don't buy the game I don't have the right to play it. Stop it with this fucking entitlement syndrome, you're only entitled to play the game if you pay for it.

<3

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: minmaster
yup i just want to hop into a server and play, not worry about whether this server or that server has special rules and i can't do basic things like sprint, be forced to play with sights up and crouched, etc. IW probably feels the same way, hence taking this route with MW2. all these custom rules crap is getting stupid. not only are you faced with constantly spamming console messages telling you of 100 different rules of the server, you're threatened by stupid admins. yeah, i will find another server when i realize i entered such server, but it will be nice not having to go through the nonsense so often. thank god you ppl are left out of this game, IW felt the same way as i did it seems like.

stupid rules FTL. RIP tactical nonsense. MW was never meant to be a stupid tactical game. it's a faster paced arcadish game. trying to turn it into arma or graw by force ain't the way to go.

So you're an ass that doesn't mind if the game is ruined for other people because you're too f***ing lazy to read server titles to see if it's tactical or not. The great thing about dedicated servers is you can make the game what you want to be, whether it be tactical or just straight up deathmatch. To think you actually love this freedom being taken away from you because you're a lazy bastard and you don't like ONE kind of special rules server is just damn pathetic.

 

[zerogear]

60$ in my wallet. That is all

 

[looper]

Interesting quote of an executive from a rival game developer:

With an online petition arguing Infinity Ward's decision to use proprietary game servers for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, EA's DICE agrees with the publisher that 'dedicated' is the best way to go.

Speaking to Next-Gen.biz, DICE's Gordon Van *** says that the formula has worked well for them and that they will continue to use dedicated servers for all platforms with their franchise.

"Other games use player-hosted or peer to peer solutions, often resulting in a ?host with the most' situation; where the player hosting the match has an advantage over other players connected to their game. Everyone else is dependent on the host's internet connection and if they don't have a great connection neither will you regardless how great of an internet you have. Also, unless server migration is implemented the game ends when that hosting player quits the game forcing you to find another player-host or start your own.

"With dedicated servers everyone gets non-stop action with no connection penalties based on some other player and their internet. This makes dedicated servers the best solution for online PC gaming hands down! So rest assured PC players, Battlefield will stay true to its roots offering dedicated servers to all its players and continue the tradition of the ultimate FPS gaming experience!"

 

[Regs]

I might be making the switch to Battle Field 2 then. I was top ranked on the COD 4 servers too. This will be like starting all over again like a real noob. =(

 

[The Boston Dangler]

i can't help but think DICE is taking advantage to fire a shot across the bow:

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Ba...PC-Game,news-4959.html

?The PC platform is usually expected to put up with a lot more ?crap? compared to consoles," he replied. "While consoles may get the game on a certain date, PC users typically have to wait much longer for the same game, but in turn, they get the game for a lower price because there are no licensing fees like consoles have, and typically they get a few more perks thrown in compared to consoles just for good measure."

He also added that the PC version of Bad Company 2 is getting more features because DICE has ignored the PC user base for the past 3 to 4 years; the upcoming PC version pays homage to those gamers. "It?s a lot of things that PC users simply deserve," he said. "If you have played games on the PC for the last ten years you would know what I?m talking about, otherwise I won?t even try to explain.?

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
i can't help but think DICE is taking advantage to fire a shot across the bow:

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Ba...PC-Game,news-4959.html

?The PC platform is usually expected to put up with a lot more ?crap? compared to consoles," he replied. "While consoles may get the game on a certain date, PC users typically have to wait much longer for the same game, but in turn, they get the game for a lower price because there are no licensing fees like consoles have, and typically they get a few more perks thrown in compared to consoles just for good measure."

He also added that the PC version of Bad Company 2 is getting more features because DICE has ignored the PC user base for the past 3 to 4 years; the upcoming PC version pays homage to those gamers. "It?s a lot of things that PC users simply deserve," he said. "If you have played games on the PC for the last ten years you would know what I?m talking about, otherwise I won?t even try to explain.?

is "fire a shot across the bow" the new buzz phrase now? I saw someone using that in OT earlier.