Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC is now a LEGIT console port

[WaitingForNehalem]

The numbers from Steam alone would have paid the very marginal costs for IW to port this to the PC. I fear we are screwed, that our future is cheapo console ports with small maps, no lean or prone or anything else not easily accommodated on a console controller, and total developer/publisher control over content. Why would any major developer take a chance developing content taking advantage of the PC's strengths when that time could be more profitably spent designing downloadable content for the much larger console market? Why would any publisher let them, when a very small amount of effort will produce an additional revenue stream almost as big as a separate design? Why would any developer or publisher want to allow dedicated servers and modding content when it can totally control and profit from additional content AND kill the game when the follow-up comes out? After a few years gamers won't really remember they used to have big maps, extra commands and controls, big battles, dedicated servers, free mods and maps.

Screw it. I'm old, I can live without computer gaming, and the small developers and modders may yet surprise me. Hey, at least I don't have to buy a new video card. LOL

You guys act like the PC makes .00000000001% of what the consoles make. Multi-platform games sell less because they usually aren't that great. When a quality PC exclusive comes out, it will make a lot of money.

The top selling Xbox 360 games.

• Halo 3 (8.1 million)[24]
• Gears of War (5 million,[25] may include PC version)
• Gears of War 2 (5 million)[26]
• Grand Theft Auto IV (4.074 million approximately: 3.29 million in US,[27] 750,000 in UK,[28] 34,000 in Japan)[29]
• Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (3.772 million approximately: 3.04 million in US,[30] 78,000 in Canada,[31] 54,742 in Japan,[32] 600,000 in UK)[33]
• Call of Duty: World at War (3.35 million approximately: 2.75 million in US,[27] 600,000 in UK)[33]
• Forza Motorsport 2 (2.674 million approximately: 2.23 million in US,[19] 31,255 and 100,500 Platinum Collection,[32] 12,600 in Canada,[34] 300,000 in UK)[35]
• Fable II (2.6 million)[36]
• Halo 3: ODST (2.5 million)[37]
• Assassin's Creed (2.285 million approximately: 1.87 million in US,[30] 60,000 in Canada,[31] 55,041 in Japan,[32] 300,000 in UK)[35]

PlayStation 3 games that have sold or shipped at least one million copies.

• Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (4.5 million shipped)[128]
• Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (3.94 million)[129]
• MotorStorm (3.31 million)[130]
• Grand Theft Auto IV (2.659 million approximately: 1.89 million in US,[27] 169,000 in Japan,[131] 600,000 in UK)[33]
• Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (2.6 million)[132][133]
• Resistance: Fall of Man (2.5 million)[134]
• Resident Evil 5 (1.21 million approximately: 585,000 in US,[135] 472,261 in Japan,[136] 100,000 in UK,[20] 62,040 in France)[137]
• Heavenly Sword (1 million)[138]
• Killzone 2 (1 million)[139]
• MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (1 million)[140]
• Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (1 million)[141]

The top ten best-selling PC games. Please note that the sales figures for expansion packs are not used in calculation of the sales figure for the original game (with the exception of StarCraft and Guild Wars).

• The Sims (16 million shipped)[157]
• The Sims 2 (13 million)[158]
  • The Sims 2: Pets [expansion pack] (5.6 million)[159]
  • The Sims 2: Seasons [expansion pack] (1 million)[159]
• World of Warcraft (11.5 million subscribers)[160]
  • World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade [expansion pack] (3.5 million)[161]
  • World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King [expansion pack] (4 million)[160]
• StarCraft (11 million)[162]
• Half-Life (9.3 million,[21][22] may include PS2 version)
  • Half-Life: Opposing Force [expansion pack] (1.1 million)[21][22]
• Half-Life 2 (6.5 million,[21][22] may include Xbox version but does not include Steam sales)
• Guild Wars (6 million in North America, Europe, and Asia; includes Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of the North)[163]
• Myst (6 million)[164]
• Counter-Strike (4.2 million,[21][22])
• Cossacks: European Wars (4 million)[165]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

This does not include Steam sales either.

 

[Mike Gayner]

You guys act like the PC makes .00000000001% of what the consoles make. Multi-platform games sell less but that is because they aren't the great. When a quality PC exclusive comes out, it will make a lot of money.

[statistics etc]

Wow, great post. Thanks for that, will come in handy in the future.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

You guys act like the PC makes .00000000001% of what the consoles make. Multi-platform games sell less because they usually aren't that great. When a quality PC exclusive comes out, it will make a lot of money.

-snip-

With the exception of some expansion packs, every game on that PC list is over 5 years old, and most are close to or over a decade. It it takes 10 years for a PC title to reach what a popular X-Box 360 title does in 2 months, I can see why developers would move into console development.

 

[Cheesetogo]

The top ten best-selling PC games. Please note that the sales figures for expansion packs are not used in calculation of the sales figure for the original game (with the exception of StarCraft and Guild Wars).

You realize that ALL of those games (except for WoW: WoTLK) were released before the Xbox 360 and PS3 came out? Those figures aren't very relevant for making comparisons.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

• The Sims (16 million shipped)[1]

• The Sims 2 (13 million)[2]
  • The Sims 2: Pets [expansion pack] (5.6 million)[3]
  • The Sims 2: Seasons [expansion pack] (1 million)[3]
• StarCraft (11 million)[4]
• Half-Life (9.3 million,[5][6] may include PS2 version)
  • Half-Life: Opposing Force [expansion pack] (1.1 million)[5][6]
• Half-Life 2 (6.5 million,[5][6] may include Xbox version but does not include Steam sales)
• Myst (6 million)[7]
• SimCity 3000 (5 million; includes Sim City 3000 Unlimited edition)[8]
• Doom (5 million)[9]
• The Sims 3 (4.6 million, includes PC and Mac sales)[10]
  • The Sims 3: World Adventures [expansion pack] (1.2 million pre-order)
• Riven (4.5 million)[11]
• Battlefield 1942 (4.39 million BF1942 2.47 million, BF1942:RTR 0.64 million, BF1942:SW 0.49 million, BF Deluxe 0.37 million, BF Anthology 0.42 million)[12]
• Counter-Strike (4.2 million,[5][6])
• Cossacks: European Wars (4 million)[13]
• Diablo II (4 million)[14]
  • Diablo II: Lord of Destruction [expansion pack] (1 million;[14] 2 million shipped)[14]
• Populous (4 million)[15][16]
• Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? (4 million) [17]
• RollerCoaster Tycoon (4 million in North America)[18]
• Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War (4 million including expansions)[19]
• Battlefield 2 (3.57 million BF2 2.25 million,BF2:SF 0.8 million,BF2:EF 0.2 million,BF2:AF 0.13 million,BF2 Deluxe 0.1 million,BF2 Complete Collection 0.09 million)[12]
• Doom 3 (3.5 million)[20]
• EverQuest (3.5 million)[21]
• Theme Park (3.5 million)[16]
• Age of Empires (3 million)[22]
  • Age of Empires: The Rise of Rome [expansion pack] (1 million)[22]
• Civilization IV (3 million,[23] may include Mac OS X version)
• Command & Conquer: Red Alert (3 million)[24]
• Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (3 million)[25]
  • Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne [expansion pack] (1 million)[26]
• Counter-Strike: Condition Zero (2.9 million)[5][6]
• Age of Empires III (2.5 million)[27]
• Anno 1503 (2.5 million)[28]
• Anno 1602 (2.5 million)[29]
• Cossacks II: Napoleonic Wars (2.5 million)[30]
• Diablo (2.5 million)[14]
• Counter-Strike: Source (2.1 million)[5][6]
• Baldur's Gate (2 million)[31]
• Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (2 million)[31]
• Black & White (2 million)[16]
• Civilization III (2 million)[32]
• Doom II: Hell on Earth (2 million)[33]
• Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven (2 million)[34]
• Neverwinter Nights (2 million)[35]
• Ragnarok Online (2 million North American subscribers)[36]
• S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (2 million)[37]
• The 7th Guest (2 million)[38]
• Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (2 million)[39]
• Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings (2 million shipped)[40]
• Sacred (1.8 million)[41]
• Dungeon Siege (1.7 million)[42]
• Quake (1.7 million)[43]
• Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun (1.5 million)[44]
• Crysis (1.5 million)[45]
• Duke Nukem 3D (1.5 million)[46]
• Star Wars Galaxies (1.5 million)[47]
• Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (1.5 million approximately; 1.3 million in US, [48] 200,000 in UK)[49]
• The Orange Box (at least 1.5 million)[50]
• Half-Life 2: Episode One (1.4 million)[5][6]
• Battlefield Vietnam (1.36 million)[12]
• Zoo Tycoon (1.3 million approximately; 1.1 million in US, [48] 200,000 in UK)[49]
• Monopoly (1.274 million)[51]
• Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning (1.2 million;[52] 1.5 million shipped)[53]
• The Witcher (1.2 million)[54]
• RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 (1.14 million approximately; 940,000 in US,[48] 200,000 in UK)[49]
• SimCity 2000 (1.136 million)[51]
• Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (1.1 million approximately; 900,000 in US,[48] 200,000 in UK)[49]
• Hellgate: London (1 million subscribers)[55]
• Age of Mythology (1 million)[56]
• American McGee's Alice (1 million)[57]
• BioShock (1 million)[58]
• Blade Runner (1 million)[59]
• Command & Conquer: Tiberium Wars (1 million)[60]
• Daryl F. Gates' Police Quest: SWAT (1 million)[61]
• Dungeon Lords (1 million)[62]
• Empire Earth (1 million)[63]
• Microsoft Flight Simulator X (1 million in US)[64]
• Glory of the Roman Empire (1 million)[65]
• Hidden & Dangerous (1 million)[66]
• Imperivm III: Great Battles of Rome (1 million, distributed only in Italy and Spain)[67]
• Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis (1 million)[68]
• Patrician III: L'Impero Dei Mari (1 million, distributed only in Italy and Spain)[69]
• Phantasmagoria (1 million)[70]
• Quake II (1 million)[71]
• Railroad Tycoon II (1 million)[66]
• Return to Castle Wolfenstein (1 million shipped)[71]
• Return to Zork (1 million)[72]
• Runaway: A Road Adventure (1 million)[73]
• Supreme Commander (1 million)[74]
• The Legend of Sword and Fairy 3 (1 million)[75]
• Tropico (1 million)[66]
• Unreal (1 million)[76]
• Unreal Tournament (1 million)[76]
• Vietcong (1 million)[66]
• Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures (1 million shipped)[77]
• Deer Hunter (1 million shipped)[78]
• Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 (1 million shipped)[24]
• Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? (1 million shipped)[79]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games

AGAIN, DOES NOT INCLUDE STEAM.

That is definitely not as bad as people make it out to be. If companies would open their eyes they'd see that PC exclusives, when done well, make a lot of money especially when a community grows around the game.

 

[Tristicus]

The single player was very meh. Started out fun, got tiresome and stupid.

 

[Tristicus]

The single player was very meh. Started out fun, got tiresome and stupid.

 

[Fallengod]

You posted twice.

 

[psihog]

hmm, games I thought were popular like elder scrolls or fallout didn't even get on the PC list.. instead you get Hellgate:London for 1 million. Did they sell that game for $.01 a copy?

 

[destrekor]

You posted twice.

and was subsequently wrong twice.

I really enjoyed MW2's SP. Just finished 20 minutes ago. No end-of-credits chapter. Sorry to spoil the fun of waiting for the credits to wrap up.

I can't say whether I liked MW or MW2's SP more. MW's was definitely longer, MW2 seemed quite a bit more visceral and some of the locations for the story really grabbed me, with quite a few more shockers it seems than MW had. But with all those shockers, it felt like the story was getting a little "out there", for lack of a better description. MW had a few shockers that really gripped you, and didn't suffer for not including more. Not entirely sure I'd argue MW2 was less fun because it had more shocking moments, and in fact it was still greatly enjoyed in the end.

I'm more interested to see where Infinity Ward is going to go now that MW2 is out. We can expect there will be another CoD title from Treyarch to be released next year. Hopefully not MW3 from them. WaW was successful only for the fact it was basically just a skinned version of MW.
From the sounds of an interview, it sounds like Infinity Ward currently has no plans they are willing to comment on in regards to a Modern Warfare 3, going so far as to saying they aren't even working on anything, and specifically not working on MW3 (can be read as, "at the moment..."). However, if they don't make MW3 (I'd enjoy seeing this story line expanded to a third title), think they'd even make another CoD title then? Maybe make a whole new franchise, or maybe a new subtitle for the CoD franchise?

 

[BladeVenom]

With the exception of some expansion packs, every game on that PC list is over 5 years old, and most are close to or over a decade. It it takes 10 years for a PC title to reach what a popular X-Box 360 title does in 2 months, I can see why developers would move into console development.

That was an old list. The Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week, and is up to at least 4.6 million.

PC numbers just don't get released often. NPD gave up even trying to keep up with PC sales since about half of PC sales or more are digital downloads now. So you don't know how well most games sell.

PC games have been the number two money maker for EA for the past several years, and are the number one money maker for Activision-Blizzard.

 

[TheVrolok]

Destroying the superior aspect of PC MP.. that was a great move.

 

[videogames101]

You guys act like the PC makes .00000000001% of what the consoles make. Multi-platform games sell less because they usually aren't that great. When a quality PC exclusive comes out, it will make a lot of money.

The top selling Xbox 360 games.

• Halo 3 (8.1 million)[24]
• Gears of War (5 million,[25] may include PC version)
• Gears of War 2 (5 million)[26]
• Grand Theft Auto IV (4.074 million approximately: 3.29 million in US,[27] 750,000 in UK,[28] 34,000 in Japan)[29]
• Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (3.772 million approximately: 3.04 million in US,[30] 78,000 in Canada,[31] 54,742 in Japan,[32] 600,000 in UK)[33]
• Call of Duty: World at War (3.35 million approximately: 2.75 million in US,[27] 600,000 in UK)[33]
• Forza Motorsport 2 (2.674 million approximately: 2.23 million in US,[19] 31,255 and 100,500 Platinum Collection,[32] 12,600 in Canada,[34] 300,000 in UK)[35]
• Fable II (2.6 million)[36]
• Halo 3: ODST (2.5 million)[37]
• Assassin's Creed (2.285 million approximately: 1.87 million in US,[30] 60,000 in Canada,[31] 55,041 in Japan,[32] 300,000 in UK)[35]

PlayStation 3 games that have sold or shipped at least one million copies.

• Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (4.5 million shipped)[128]
• Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (3.94 million)[129]
• MotorStorm (3.31 million)[130]
• Grand Theft Auto IV (2.659 million approximately: 1.89 million in US,[27] 169,000 in Japan,[131] 600,000 in UK)[33]
• Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (2.6 million)[132][133]
• Resistance: Fall of Man (2.5 million)[134]
• Resident Evil 5 (1.21 million approximately: 585,000 in US,[135] 472,261 in Japan,[136] 100,000 in UK,[20] 62,040 in France)[137]
• Heavenly Sword (1 million)[138]
• Killzone 2 (1 million)[139]
• MotorStorm: Pacific Rift (1 million)[140]
• Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction (1 million)[141]

The top ten best-selling PC games. Please note that the sales figures for expansion packs are not used in calculation of the sales figure for the original game (with the exception of StarCraft and Guild Wars).

• The Sims (16 million shipped)[157]
• The Sims 2 (13 million)[158]
  • The Sims 2: Pets [expansion pack] (5.6 million)[159]
  • The Sims 2: Seasons [expansion pack] (1 million)[159]
• World of Warcraft (11.5 million subscribers)[160]
  • World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade [expansion pack] (3.5 million)[161]
  • World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King [expansion pack] (4 million)[160]
• StarCraft (11 million)[162]
• Half-Life (9.3 million,[21][22] may include PS2 version)
  • Half-Life: Opposing Force [expansion pack] (1.1 million)[21][22]
• Half-Life 2 (6.5 million,[21][22] may include Xbox version but does not include Steam sales)
• Guild Wars (6 million in North America, Europe, and Asia; includes Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of the North)[163]
• Myst (6 million)[164]
• Counter-Strike (4.2 million,[21][22])
• Cossacks: European Wars (4 million)[165]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

This does not include Steam sales either.

I'd like to see sales for all games on steam...

EDIT: I looked, and can't find a thing on total sales...

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Unfortunately, they won't release sales figures from Steam.

 

[Ackmed]

With the exception of some expansion packs, every game on that PC list is over 5 years old, and most are close to or over a decade. It it takes 10 years for a PC title to reach what a popular X-Box 360 title does in 2 months, I can see why developers would move into console development.

... and in the past 5 years downloadable sales have increased many times over. Which never show up.

The newest "big" game for the console may very well sell more than the same on the PC. That doesnt mean that the PC doesnt have big numbers. The crappy ports hurt PC sales, by how much nobody really knows. And the console games spend much, much more than the PC devs too.

 

[Zargon]

We can expect there will be another CoD title from Treyarch to be released next year. Hopefully not MW3 from them. WaW was successful only for the fact it was basically just a skinned version of MW.

it was successful because it was fun, the MP was 'good' and the Coop was awesome.

the sp campaign was longer and involved more shooting and less watching stupid shit and being forced to walk around doing jack crap to forward the rediculus plot mw2 had.

the only parts I liked in mw2 sp were wolverines, and finding price.

 

[Genx87]

Did they really limit MP on the PC to 9v9?

 

[BlueWeasel]

Did they really limit MP on the PC to 9v9?

Yes.

 

[brencat]

Activision press release this morning: $310 million in NA and UK sales so far:

http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=423768

At $60 per, that's about 5.2 million units sold.

And although I am one of the 200k people who signed that petition, I am feeling the futility of being part of the 3.5% rounding error that IW doesn't seem to give a sh*t about.

 

[KMFJD]

Did they really limit MP on the PC to 9v9?

The maps they have that support 9v9 feel crowded.....

 

[Genx87]

Yes.

Well that saves me 60 bucks. Thanks for the info.

 

[BlueWeasel]

I've actually read from some of the less favorable reviews that 9v9 is pretty laggy. 6v6 seems about the max before performance drops. I can't confirm, but doesn't surprise me.

 

[minmaster]

The maps they have that support 9v9 feel crowded.....

not just the maps, not many home connection can handle the bandwidth that a bigger size MP game requires.

 

[VashHT]

Well that saves me 60 bucks. Thanks for the info.

It's actually 6v6 for most game modes, so even worse lol.

I was playing this online last night and this one guy in our game got a tactical nuke 3 times. Luckily I was on his team for two of them, but damn I thought the nuke was going to be hard to get.

On top of that he had another kill streak unlocked that allows u to take control of the guns on an apache gunship, and every time he got that he would kill the whole enemy team multiple times over.

Other than the ridiculous kill streaks this guy was using its still pretty fun, but there are still a lot of things about it that bother me.

 

[Genx87]

It's actually 6v6 for most game modes, so even worse lol.

I was playing this online last night and this one guy in our game got a tactical nuke 3 times. Luckily I was on his team for two of them, but damn I thought the nuke was going to be hard to get.

On top of that he had another kill streak unlocked that allows u to take control of the guns on an apache gunship, and every time he got that he would kill the whole enemy team multiple times over.

Other than the ridiculous kill streaks this guy was using its still pretty fun, but there are still a lot of things about it that bother me.

lmao a tactical nuke to kill 6 defenders? Game sounds dumber by the minute.