Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for PC is now a LEGIT console port

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KilgoreUSA

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Here is a link to sign a petition, if you want:

http://www.petitiononline.com/...rl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw

Everyone should in the gaming community should take a stance against this issue. Just because nothing is effecting the console player today, does not mean that something will not happen in the future to you. All of us should stand against this issue together.

Please dont be short sighted and sign the petition, its always about the money.

Nice article:

http://www.computerandvideogam...php?id=225744&site=pcg


Thanks



 

erwos

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Originally posted by: stag3
cancelled my pre order
will just dl the scene release to play the single player thru
Don't act too terribly shocked when COD:MW3 doesn't even come out on the PC in the first place, then. The PC version of COD4:MW supposedly only sold 10-15% of what the console version did, and there was evidence of massive piracy. An effective boycott of COD:MW2 combined with huge piracy of it would probably kill the series on PC completely.

I tend to agree that dropping dedicated servers was something of a dumb move, but cutting off your nose to spite your face is completely self-defeating behavior.
 

Sureshot324

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They are touting rank based match making for this, but I call BS because you can have rank based match making with dedicated servers. Quake Live is proof.
 

OCGuy

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The backlash has been awesome! Sadly, like most, I dont think it will do much. But at least it shows the PC community can still come together on an issue.

And I know that some of the people claiming that they cancelled pre-orders or arent going to buy it are full of crap, but I know many of them are telling the truth, including myself.

They wont be getting $60 from anyone in my gaming community.
 

slayer202

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a petition isn't going to do anything. if its true that PC sales were a small portion compared to consoles, they don't care. theres not enough time to change over now anyway most likely
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: stag3
cancelled my pre order
will just dl the scene release to play the single player thru
Don't act too terribly shocked when COD:MW3 doesn't even come out on the PC in the first place, then. The PC version of COD4:MW supposedly only sold 10-15% of what the console version did, and there was evidence of massive piracy. An effective boycott of COD:MW2 combined with huge piracy of it would probably kill the series on PC completely.

I tend to agree that dropping dedicated servers was something of a dumb move, but cutting off your nose to spite your face is completely self-defeating behavior.

So are you advocating everyone buy the game anyways? Just like people should have bought more copies of the Playstation 2 port Madden 2008 so EA would have continued porting Madden 2009 over to the PC from the PS2 or Fifa X this year from the PC which also uese the Playstation 2 engine and gameplay instead of the new engines or gameplay?

A sub-par game is a sub-par game, there should be no reward for trying. Entitlement mentality on the part of the devs will not get the PC gaming industry anywhere. The customers are shelling out the cash, in this case for a game that costs already 20% more than a full price PC game, there should be absolutely 0 excuses.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: stag3
cancelled my pre order
will just dl the scene release to play the single player thru
Don't act too terribly shocked when COD:MW3 doesn't even come out on the PC in the first place, then. The PC version of COD4:MW supposedly only sold 10-15% of what the console version did, and there was evidence of massive piracy. An effective boycott of COD:MW2 combined with huge piracy of it would probably kill the series on PC completely.

I tend to agree that dropping dedicated servers was something of a dumb move, but cutting off your nose to spite your face is completely self-defeating behavior.

So are you advocating everyone buy the game anyways? Just like people should have bought more copies of the Playstation 2 port Madden 2008 so EA would have continued porting Madden 2009 over to the PC from the PS2 or Fifa X this year from the PC which also uese the Playstation 2 engine and gameplay instead of the new engines or gameplay?

A sub-par game is a sub-par game, there should be no reward for trying. Entitlement mentality on the part of the devs will not get the PC gaming industry anywhere. The customers are shelling out the cash, in this case for a game that costs already 20% more than a full price PC game, there should be absolutely 0 excuses.

i believe he's referring to the pirating part. not purchasing the game is fine. but increased piracy rates will only make IW want to go console exclusive rather than spend any development effort for PC.
 

tommo123

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Sep 25, 2005
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Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: stag3
cancelled my pre order
will just dl the scene release to play the single player thru
Don't act too terribly shocked when COD:MW3 doesn't even come out on the PC in the first place, then. The PC version of COD4:MW supposedly only sold 10-15% of what the console version did, and there was evidence of massive piracy. An effective boycott of COD:MW2 combined with huge piracy of it would probably kill the series on PC completely.

I tend to agree that dropping dedicated servers was something of a dumb move, but cutting off your nose to spite your face is completely self-defeating behavior.

i'll probably do the same for the PC ver tbh for the campaign - -was planning on getting on the 360 but no region filter = 100% no purchase
 

tommo123

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Sep 25, 2005
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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: stag3
cancelled my pre order
will just dl the scene release to play the single player thru
Don't act too terribly shocked when COD:MW3 doesn't even come out on the PC in the first place, then. The PC version of COD4:MW supposedly only sold 10-15% of what the console version did, and there was evidence of massive piracy. An effective boycott of COD:MW2 combined with huge piracy of it would probably kill the series on PC completely.

I tend to agree that dropping dedicated servers was something of a dumb move, but cutting off your nose to spite your face is completely self-defeating behavior.

So are you advocating everyone buy the game anyways? Just like people should have bought more copies of the Playstation 2 port Madden 2008 so EA would have continued porting Madden 2009 over to the PC from the PS2 or Fifa X this year from the PC which also uese the Playstation 2 engine and gameplay instead of the new engines or gameplay?

A sub-par game is a sub-par game, there should be no reward for trying. Entitlement mentality on the part of the devs will not get the PC gaming industry anywhere. The customers are shelling out the cash, in this case for a game that costs already 20% more than a full price PC game, there should be absolutely 0 excuses.

i believe he's referring to the pirating part. not purchasing the game is fine. but increased piracy rates will only make IW want to go console exclusive rather than spend any development effort for PC.

there's no effort here though. it seems to be pretty much a direct crappy port. hence none of what PC gamers want. games that people don't want having dev stopped - what's the prob?
 
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Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: stag3
cancelled my pre order
will just dl the scene release to play the single player thru
Don't act too terribly shocked when COD:MW3 doesn't even come out on the PC in the first place, then. The PC version of COD4:MW supposedly only sold 10-15% of what the console version did, and there was evidence of massive piracy. An effective boycott of COD:MW2 combined with huge piracy of it would probably kill the series on PC completely.

I tend to agree that dropping dedicated servers was something of a dumb move, but cutting off your nose to spite your face is completely self-defeating behavior.

What's your point? I have no interest in playing this game without dedi servers, that's why I'm boycotting! Frankly I couldn't care less if they scrap the series on PC, it was starting to get stale and now they've removed the feature that makes good PC MP games great.
 

erwos

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
What's your point? I have no interest in playing this game without dedi servers, that's why I'm boycotting! Frankly I couldn't care less if they scrap the series on PC, it was starting to get stale and now they've removed the feature that makes good PC MP games great.
Do you think driving IW off the PC platform is the way to fix the PC platform? Think hard on this one, folks, but I don't think it's a very difficult problem.

I'm not saying you should buy the game. In fact, I'd say you shouldn't, given your feelings. I am saying, though, you shouldn't pirate it in "retaliation". There is a huge difference between "I'm not buying" and "I am copying and playing your game without paying for it". One of them sends the message of "hey, you made a game I don't want, fix it and try again". The other says "hey, you made a game I want, but I'm totally not paying for it, period". There's room for profit in the former, but none in the latter.

Please don't prove the recent adage of "PC gaming's worst enemy is PC gamers" all over again. Infinity Ward dropping PC development would be a huge red flag to the rest of the industry that the platform's viability is in serious doubt.
 

GullyFoyle

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New info: http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745

Originally Posted by fourzerotwo:

I recently broke news on a PC community member?s podcast that Modern Warfare 2 would be introducing a completely new backend infastructure called IWNET that would allow matchmaking for multiplayer games on PC. The news, by default, means no more browsing through a Server List for a server with the settings / ping you want among other things, and sent shockwaves through the hardcore PC community, leading to many more questions than answers as to ?HOW? this would work, and if it would really be better for the PC community as a whole.

Questions, assumptions, and speculation I intend to dispel.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is actually the biggest investment Infinity Ward has ever made into the PC version of our games. It?s also the most feature-rich PC version we?ve ever made. IWNET takes the benefits of dedicated servers and allows them to be utilized and accessed by every player, out of the box, while removing the barrier to entry for players unaware of how to maintain a server on their own.

How does it do this?

Matchmaking & Smoother Gameplay: When you want to player a multiplayer game on PC, in the past. You?d have to scroll through a Server Browser which listed every available server which was hosted by individual server admins. Each had their own private rules, mods, or ways of playing the game. Most players would also use the server browser to find just the best quality game (based on PING). With IWNET matchmaking, it takes all that into account for you. All you have to do is select the playlist (pre-set gametypes with custom rules) that fits the style of play you are in the mood for. When you do, it will automatically find you a game with the best performance, ping, and preferences based on your location and individual connection as well as matching you with players of your same SKILL. So you?re always guaranteed the best game performance for where you are and what connection you?re playing on as well as an equal game with other players of your same skill level, not rank, but skill level. It doesn?t mean you?ll just be thrown into a random game! It will put you in the game that will give you the smoothest gameplay possible without you having to manually find a server with the best ping.

Playlists and Private Matches: As I described above, Playlists are pre-set game modes and gametypes for public games. If you just want to jump into a public game of Search and Destroy or Hardcore Search and Destroy and you don?t care about fully customizing it, then you can utilize playlists to do that quickly for you. However, say you?re in a clan and you want to play a Clan match with another team, or you want to practice for an upcoming tournament that has specific rules in a private game. Then you can start a Private Match (which is essentially like running your own private server) where you have complete control over the rules, who can join, boot players you don?t want, and essentially control the entire game or tweak it to your liking. Once the rules are set, you can invite the other team in or just start it up with your clan to practice with the custom rules before the match. This now allows you to play custom games out of the box without the need to install mods, find a modded server with the rules you like, or worry about not being in control of the match.

Party System and Friendslist: Modern Warfare 2 on PC also makes it much easier if you want to party up with your friends, or again, with your clan for a match. You can utilize the friendslist to see when your friends are online, and invite them to your Party. A Party allows you to move from game to game as a group. It?s great for clan matches, because you can party of with your clan and move from public game to public game together. Or if you?re doing a scrim, party up and invite the other clan (who is in a party) and they?ll all join at once. Set up a private match together and play. It makes setting up scrims or games with friends easier and hassle free.

Cheat / Hack Free Games: The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you don?t have to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and policing it. Modern Warfare 2 on PC allows us to control the quality of the game much more than ever before as well as utilizing the VAC (Valve-Anti-Cheat) system to keep games clean of hackers and cheaters.

All in all, IWNET adds a load of new features that the PC version of our games have never had before and allows us an infrastructure to continue to update and improve on the game post-launch.

I'm still looking for a statement from a "tech" person at IW about whether there really be no dedicated servers vs there are dedicated servers but they are all hosted by IW.

I am still in doubt because I can't see how they can possibly deliver all the features he mentioned without them hosting servers.
 

erwos

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Actually, it sounds like they reinvented Xbox Live for Windows, which makes this even weirder.
 

aigomorla

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omg removing dedicated servers???

How is that a step forward?

I see massive hacking... and also massive lags..

 

brencat

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Originally posted by: THUMP1er
IW official Response
http://gameinformer.com/b/news...d-server-response.aspx

Makes me sick.

Epic FAIL. So they're basically saying we're mad because we won't be able to rent out our dedicated servers for ad revenue??? So fvcking lame. And the other excuses are bogus too. They clearly don't understand PC gamers -- when I played COD4, I refused to play on servers that didn't have a zero-tolerance policy for hacking, noob-tubing, or TKing. That meant after about 3 weeks of playing online and for the next year that I played that game exclusively, I was a regular on only 2 different servers.

CODMW2 is coming out on 11/10 and L4D2 on 11/17. Was disappointed I was going to have to juggle 2 new games, but looks like IW just made my decision easy.... it will be L4D2.

Thanks guys!
 

CottonRabbit

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Originally posted by: THUMP1er
IW official Response
http://gameinformer.com/b/news...d-server-response.aspx

Makes me sick.

Basically a big !@#$ you to serious PC gamers.

I also love this part:

West takes a shot at the motives behind some of the outrage, noting that there's money to made by selling dedicated servers and adspace on them: "It's a little dubious. Some of the people complaining are complaining with their pocketbook."

So its the data center cartel that's orchestrating this outrage against MW2? From my experience playing on dedicated servers, very few server owners actually make a significant amount of money compared to the time and effort they spend on hosting.
 

Mike Gayner

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Originally posted by: erwos
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
What's your point? I have no interest in playing this game without dedi servers, that's why I'm boycotting! Frankly I couldn't care less if they scrap the series on PC, it was starting to get stale and now they've removed the feature that makes good PC MP games great.
Do you think driving IW off the PC platform is the way to fix the PC platform? Think hard on this one, folks, but I don't think it's a very difficult problem.

I'm not saying you should buy the game. In fact, I'd say you shouldn't, given your feelings. I am saying, though, you shouldn't pirate it in "retaliation". There is a huge difference between "I'm not buying" and "I am copying and playing your game without paying for it". One of them sends the message of "hey, you made a game I don't want, fix it and try again". The other says "hey, you made a game I want, but I'm totally not paying for it, period". There's room for profit in the former, but none in the latter.

Please don't prove the recent adage of "PC gaming's worst enemy is PC gamers" all over again. Infinity Ward dropping PC development would be a huge red flag to the rest of the industry that the platform's viability is in serious doubt.

Where did anyone say they would do that? It would take a particularly juvenile type to pirate a game in "retaliation". I doubt we'll see priacy rates particularly higher than what would otherwise be expected.
 

erwos

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Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
Where did anyone say they would do that? It would take a particularly juvenile type to pirate a game in "retaliation". I doubt we'll see priacy rates particularly higher than what would otherwise be expected.
Originally posted by: stag3
cancelled my pre order
will just dl the scene release to play the single player thru
 
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