Call of Duty MW3

[Red Storm]

All I keep reading about is how the PC version is somewhat borked in favor of consoles. The whole reason I'd buy it on PC is for the graphics quality - otherwise give me my comfy couch, 54" Plasma, and 5.1 surround. I mean really ... somebody tell me there is a good reason to buy this on PC.

Or even BF3.

Please?

Why do people constantly bring this up over and over again? You do realize you can do all of those with a PC too right?

 

[s1njin]

Why do people constantly bring this up over and over again? You do realize you can do all of those with a PC too right?

Sure I can. But I don't. Logistically its impossible to have my rig next to my entertainment center. For those of us who have accommodating significant others or no kids or whatever your situation is, God Bless. There are some of us that have not that flexibility and live within the confines of 'this is where the PC goes and that's that !'.

*shrug*

My prized gaming location is on a Ikea desk that sits not 4 feet from a large plastic kitchen abominiation that my kids play in. The console is tucked in the AV cabinet, in front of the couch. Guess which one is more capable, but guess which one is more comfy?

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Sure I can. But I don't. Logistically its impossible to have my rig next to my entertainment center. For those of us who have accommodating significant others or no kids or whatever your situation is, God Bless. There are some of us that have not that flexibility and live within the confines of 'this is where the PC goes and that's that !'.

*shrug*

My prized gaming location is on a Ikea desk that sits not 4 feet from a large plastic kitchen abominiation that my kids play in. The console is tucked in the AV cabinet, in front of the couch. Guess which one is more capable, but guess which one is more comfy?

Then your point has nothing to do with the merits (or alleged lack thereof) with the PC version. Rather, it has everything to do with the particular situation in your home.

I play lots of games on consoles, and an I enjoy it. But push comes to shove, I prefer my PC because it is ~50X more powerful than a console and therefore usually gives me a better gaming experience. The same would appear to be true in your instance. you just have . . . environmental factors . . . that the benefits of the PC version do not, in your opinion, overcome.

 

[Jules]

Where are you getting for 30 bucks? You must be buying the stolen ones from that truck that was robbed.

Friend wanted me to get it and gave me 30 bucks to do so.

 

[s1njin]

Then your point has nothing to do with the merits (or alleged lack thereof) with the PC version. Rather, it has everything to do with the particular situation in your home.

I play lots of games on consoles, and an I enjoy it. But push comes to shove, I prefer my PC because it is ~50X more powerful than a console and therefore usually gives me a better gaming experience. The same would appear to be true in your instance. you just have . . . environmental factors . . . that the benefits of the PC version do not, in your opinion, overcome.

Actually I'll play on the Ikea desk 7 days a week if the graphics are heads and tails better than the console. That's not even a question for me.

 

[Dankk]

Where are you getting for 30 bucks? You must be buying the stolen ones from that truck that was robbed.

You can buy it for $30 from stores like this (legitimately, mind you): http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/

 

[Vdubchaos]

Why do people constantly bring this up over and over again? You do realize you can do all of those with a PC too right?

Agreed, I do all the time. And at the end of the day Monitor > TV any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

As for Modern Warfare 3:

I enjoyed MW2 and put many hours into it.

Map packs gave me a bad taste....

Never bought BO as it didn't really look very innovative or an upgrade in Graphics.

Will not buy another COD game until I see some progress/innovation.

I doubt MW3 will offer that, but we shall see.

 

[mizzou]

Im getting the hardened edition for freezle will get yere thursday, very excited

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Actually I'll play on the Ikea desk 7 days a week if the graphics are heads and tails better than the console. That's not even a question for me.

Well then i think you have tyour answer re: BF3. From what I have scene, the PC version looks heads and tails better than the console version.

As to MW3, my impression (which may be incorrect), is that it is somewhat less intense graphically than BW3. As a result, there is a greater degree of visual parity between the console and pc versions.

 

[eightkyle]

Thankyou

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

Only COD games I've played are COD4 and Black Ops for a free weekend. Multi only.
Played it a little bit last night after a long BF3 session. Graphics definitely do not compare to BF3 at all. FOV setting appears to be locked. Really narrow. The max # of players is really small too. Maps are small but even then there are times you'll be running around looking for people. Would be better if I knew the maps. That said, I had a lot of fun with it.

Played some TDM first and it's fun. You can set up perks to attack enemies or to help your team out. There's a death streak perk also. What I always like about MW is that at least 1 of the 4 starter loadouts is competitive. Options menu is old school FPS style and I like it. Quick and easy. I hate having a slider for mouse options though. There's no option for raw input, which is a neg.

The matchmaking system works pretty well surprisingly. I really hate the long delays between games in BF3. The nice thing in mw3 is you can play around in your menus and set up loadouts while waiting for a match to start. Also you can change loadouts while alive. Map is pretty basic but it works a lot better than the BF3 one. Guns kill really quick. Maybe a little too quick.

Sniper rifles seem a lot better than they were in Black Ops. Recoil is easy a little too easy to control for the guns I've been using. I don't know why all games started doing this but I don't really like having hit markers/sounds when you land a shot on someone. Part of the strategy in rail shooters like in Quake was knowing when to rush in on a wounded enemy, but you had to base it on feel from the kind of shots you're landing. Also hit markers make it a little easier to spam in spots where you don't actually see the enemy. In CS for example you could wallbang on Nuke so people would take pot shots in A and you'd start spamming like crazy if you heard the ding from a shot to the dome, otherwise you'd be guessing.

Anyway, not too many people were using it but there's built in voice. Works the same as every other game. Not sure why BF3 doesn't have it built in.

There's no unlimited run, which is pretty annoying. Also you can't reload while runing, which I'm used to now in BF3. It does mean you have to plan your reloads a little better.

Played the game type where you have to control cap points throughout the map. It's a pretty fast game. It actually takes a lot of teamwork because capping a flag requires you to basically sit on the flag. It's hard to cap a point by yourself because there's a notification when someone starts capping one of your points and it takes like 7 seconds to take a flag but you're in the open. Capping is a lot faster and safer when your teammates are around.

Leveling is really really quick. I think you have to unlock perks for the guns so that will probably take some time. I saw a guy that was level 53 already but I'm assuming he had double xp cards from the mt dew/doritoes promo.

There's a new game mode that's supposed to be fun but I haven't tried it yet.

 

[Childs]

I think youre thinking of Kill Confirmed. It is a lot of fun, and the games I played there wasnt a lot of camping. I just find it hard adjusting to the way your player moves in MW3. Just feels slow and lumbering, and without marathon you have to catch your breathe all the time. Stat wise I do better in COD than BF, but I dont know...it just feels slow all the time. Except for the gun fights, which are nice.

 

[Josh123]

When I can get a copy of MW3 used for cheap (~$20) on console, I'll go thru the single player just for the story line. This was pretty much MW/MW2 for me once and then it pretty much collects dust. For multiplayer, BF3 is where it's at with my gaming style and eye candy.

Ya I feel the same as you. I got MW2 when it came out since I was a big time MW1 player. I fired up MW2 the other day planning to try some online play and remember how it was (Shitty). Well I couldn't even get into a game because it's practically a ghost town. I'm sure Black Ops will become the same and I'm so glad I didn't get it. I'm sure I could start up MW1 and there would be a large population of players to join.

 

[TheSlamma]

As for Modern Warfare 3:

I enjoyed MW2 and put many hours into it.

Map packs gave me a bad taste....

Never bought BO as it didn't really look very innovative or an upgrade in Graphics.

Will not buy another COD game until I see some progress/innovation.

I doubt MW3 will offer that, but we shall see.

The spec ops missions are boring compared to the ones in MW2. The graphics and gameplay is identical to MW2 though. It feels like a large DLC IMO

 

[Vdubchaos]

The spec ops missions are boring compared to the ones in MW2. The graphics and gameplay is identical to MW2 though. It feels like a large DLC IMO

I kind of assumed that would happen.

Until I hear some news of new COD engine and SOMETHING new, I will not be even interested in this game.

 

[pontifex]

You can buy it for $30 from stores like this (legitimately, mind you): http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/

doesn't look legit to me

How does your company function?

Our company functions by importing the games from main distributors within the EU, where games have cheaper retail prices than in countries such as the UK. Because of the savings made in postage costs (as our items are sent digitally), it allows us to provide extremely low pricing. Not only this, but the games work worlwide as digital downloads, unlike physical games which have region locked discs.

It will be banned when Valve finds out.

 

[Zargon]

The spec ops missions are boring compared to the ones in MW2. The graphics and gameplay is identical to MW2 though. It feels like a large DLC IMO

thats sad to here spec ops is the main reason I bought it

You can buy it for $30 from stores like this (legitimately, mind you): http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/

doesn't look legit to me

How does your company function?

Our company functions by importing the games from main distributors within the EU, where games have cheaper retail prices than in countries such as the UK. Because of the savings made in postage costs (as our items are sent digitally), it allows us to provide extremely low pricing. Not only this, but the games work worlwide as digital downloads, unlike physical games which have region locked discs.

It will be banned when Valve finds out.

they have said that while they dont 'approve' of buying keys for other regions and vpn;'ing to unlock, they have yet to ban anyone for it.

they RARELY have removed said game from accounts for it, but its rare

I hope that doesnt change, as my copy of mw3 was 29 bucks and is russian



I played SP for about half an hour

the graphics are as expected, MEH. no surprise there

the gun play is prety hollow after playing 20+ hours of BF3

full auto on the M4 with almost zero recoil to be had. also as expected. I forgot how much I hate some of the default key bindings in CoD, I got killed a few times because I couldnt remember that C was crouch

not to say that they are good at storytelling, and it was nice to see some charactors I have put so much time into in the past

 

[Dankk]

doesn't look legit to me

It will be banned when Valve finds out.

Wrong. CJS keys has been around for years, and I know many people who've used them with zero problems. Could you point me to exactly where they're doing something wrong?

Because they're not in the main US/EU/AU areas, they get their shipments in earlier and cheaper from companies in order to combat piracy in 3rd-world-countries. They take advantage of this by selling internationally. Rather than going through the hassle of overseas shipping, they simply scan the product keys and sell them digitally to people around the world. It's ghetto but it's perfectly legal, and no, Valve won't ban anything assuming you aren't an idiot and got a key specific for your region (not the Russian version).

Unless you're a Steam expert, then by all means, tell me where I'm wrong.

 

[pontifex]

Wrong. CJS keys has been around for years, and I know many people who've used them with zero problems. Could you point me to exactly where they're doing something wrong?

Because they're not in the main US/EU/AU areas, they get their shipments in earlier and cheaper from companies in order to combat piracy in 3rd-world-countries. They take advantage of this by selling internationally. Rather than going through the hassle of overseas shipping, they simply scan the product keys and sell them digitally to people around the world. It's ghetto but it's perfectly legal, and no, Valve won't ban anything assuming you aren't an idiot and got a key specific for your region (not the Russian version).

Unless you're a Steam expert, then by all means, tell me where I'm wrong.

So if they are buying keys from Europe and selling them here, how are they going to be valid for the US region?

There are also reasons why the games are cheaper in other countries and not here.

 

[Nebor]

Well after waiting to get MW2 until it went on sale for under $20, I figured I'd get in on the ground floor for this one, and coughed up the $60 to get it from Steam. I gave it a whirl at lunch, and some guy called Commander Korea or something was already level 53, appeared to be using an aimbot from watching him, and had the whole server yelling at him while he taunted them in l33t speak.

Aside from that, it was pretty fun. I kept getting killed by a sentry gun at one point. My M4 didn't seem to do much damage, so I decided to exhaust it's ammunition supply by throwing my body at it repeatedly. After the 15th death, one of my teamates hit it with a missile, so I guess I still don't know how much ammo the sentry guns have.

Also the starting loadouts are decent enough. It wasn't too painful to play a couple levels to get "create a class" and then it wasn't too painful playing with iron sights to get a red dot sight.

Overall pretty good. I think I'll get Skyrim too for when I get too frustrated with MW3 though.

 

[Dankk]

So if they are buying keys from Europe and selling them here, how are they going to be valid for the US region?

They are not "buying keys from Europe". They get bulk shipments of games, from the actual game publishers/manufacturers, and when customers buy from them CJS merely scans and delivers the keys on the back of the boxes so they it can be plugged into Steam or Origin or what have you. Voila.

This is where Steamworks games are advantageous. For games that use Steamworks, it's going to be downloadable on Steam regardless of where you buy it. So in this case there is literally no reason to have the CD.

Yes, they are valid for the US region. You just have to make sure to select the "Region free" option when checking out your game.

 

[mnewsham]

They are not "buying keys from Europe". They get bulk shipments of games, from the actual game publishers/manufacturers, and when customers buy from them CJS merely scans and delivers the keys on the back of the boxes so they it can be plugged into Steam or Origin or what have you. Voila.

This is where Steamworks games are advantageous. For games that use Steamworks, it's going to be downloadable on Steam regardless of where you buy it. So in this case there is literally no reason to have the CD.

Yes, they are valid for the US region. You just have to make sure to select the "Region free" option when checking out your game.

Yeah only downside is some games are double for the region free version compared to the say russian version. But you need to VPN to get the russian key to work. And Russian keys have bad rep
If you can though get region free, it will still likely be cheaper then anywhere else.

 

[Dankk]

Yeah only downside is some games are double for the region free version compared to the say russian version. But you need to VPN to get the russian key to work. And Russian keys have bad rep

I might as well pack up and move to Russia I guess, lol

 

[pontifex]

They are not "buying keys from Europe". They get bulk shipments of games, from the actual game publishers/manufacturers, and when customers buy from them CJS merely scans and delivers the keys on the back of the boxes so they it can be plugged into Steam or Origin or what have you. Voila.

This is where Steamworks games are advantageous. For games that use Steamworks, it's going to be downloadable on Steam regardless of where you buy it. So in this case there is literally no reason to have the CD.

Yes, they are valid for the US region. You just have to make sure to select the "Region free" option when checking out your game.

From the company's website:

How does your company function?

Our company functions by importing the games from main distributors within the EU, where games have cheaper retail prices than in countries such as the UK. Because of the savings made in postage costs (as our items are sent digitally), it allows us to provide extremely low pricing. Not only this, but the games work worlwide as digital downloads, unlike physical games which have region locked discs.

Distributor is not developer/publisher. I also didn't realize that IW/Activision or Dice/EA were based in Europe?

 

[Dankk]

Distributor is not developer/publisher. I also didn't realize that IW/Activision or Dice/EA were based in Europe?

Whoever the "distributor" may be, it's the same kind of "distributor" that other brick-and-mortar stores use to buy their stock. Gamestop, for example.

And no, most of those companies are based in America. Well, except for DICE. Battlefield is a Swedish game.