Still subscription based == a big fuck no.
Interesting you bring up making money. If Jacobs funded this idea the traditional way, which he has all the contacts and seed money of his own to accomplish, then he'd have to get it by people who are pretty good at judging whether it is a viable business and not just a neat game idea. By going to crowdsourcing he gets to avoid all that due dilligence and get his funds from people who for the most part will only see the neat game.
I hope it gets built, and doesn't turn out like Warhammer, and generates enough income to stick around for awhile. I'll buy it at release.
You call it getting around due diligence, but it also is a way to get around publishers calling the shots. Publishers have doomed many MMOs by trying to make WoW clones.
Need to look more at the tiers when i get home from work but will probably do the 150ish tier.
If you're going to waste that much money, you'd probably be better served going up to $250 for the included "lifetime" subscription.
I haven't seen a "major MMO" release in the last year or so at least that I can name that successfully launched with a subscription. On the other hand, I can easily use up all my fingers on F2P launches. Granted the bar for "successful" reduces the number of fingers needed, but that's how the business in general works.
You want to look at how "successful" Premium AAA subscripton MMO's launches are these days, look no further than SWTOR and The Secret World.
I don't know why people think there's something special about having 3 factions. I'd rather just see a good pvp game with two sides, good vs evil, like it was in Everquest. It's easy to get into the role playing with a good vs evil theme, rather than some made up factions.
On the one hand you could argue that it's a lot harder to balance three factions (or at least stop them from thinking they're unbalanced, as Mythic found out), but on the other it's probably more balanced than two factions in terms of population dynamics.
I don't know why people think there's something special about having 3 factions. I'd rather just see a good pvp game with two sides, good vs evil, like it was in Everquest. It's easy to get into the role playing with a good vs evil theme, rather than some made up factions.
I don't know why people think there's something special about having 3 factions. I'd rather just see a good pvp game with two sides, good vs evil, like it was in Everquest. It's easy to get into the role playing with a good vs evil theme, rather than some made up factions.
My biggest concern with this game is the complete removal of any PvE content, and all leveling being through PvP/RvR.
I just don't think that will be enough to sustain a game like this. Even though I loved RvR and the Battlegrounds in DAOC, I also enjoyed logging in and doing some PvE to better my characters at a more leisurely pace. It also provided a place for people to socialize/meet/play without the stress of PvP. I ended up meeting most of the players I RvRed with through PvE. The other problem is that it will attract only those that like to PvP solely. DAOC was successful partly because most people liked to only dabble in the RvR, and primarily PvE.
My biggest concern with this game is the complete removal of any PvE content, and all leveling being through PvP/RvR.
I just don't think that will be enough to sustain a game like this. Even though I loved RvR and the Battlegrounds in DAOC, I also enjoyed logging in and doing some PvE to better my characters at a more leisurely pace. It also provided a place for people to socialize/meet/play without the stress of PvP. I ended up meeting most of the players I RvRed with through PvE. The other problem is that it will attract only those that like to PvP solely. DAOC was successful partly because most people liked to only dabble in the RvR, and primarily PvE.
Agreed, that is my primary concern as well. Even my favorite PvP centric MMO (Shadowbane) had PvE elements and leveling/loot was primarily done through that. In fact a large portion of the PvP was literally based around control of the better leveling/farming spots and specific loot droppers. Even in its dying days with only a few hundred active players on at any given time, the most popular leveling spots were often attacked several times an hour, and guilds would bring their max level characters out just to help scout/defend. I feel like this is the best way to handle PvE elements, but I also know that not many PvE'ers are all that in to being able to be attacked while leveling.
My biggest concern with this game is the complete removal of any PvE content, and all leveling being through PvP/RvR.
I just don't think that will be enough to sustain a game like this. Even though I loved RvR and the Battlegrounds in DAOC, I also enjoyed logging in and doing some PvE to better my characters at a more leisurely pace. It also provided a place for people to socialize/meet/play without the stress of PvP. I ended up meeting most of the players I RvRed with through PvE. The other problem is that it will attract only those that like to PvP solely. DAOC was successful partly because most people liked to only dabble in the RvR, and primarily PvE.
Agreed, and I wonder how much the five years of "PVE sucks" whining from the hard core 8v8 crowd on VN Boards affected Jacobs' view of this. I think the game needs both.
Agreed, and I wonder how much the five years of "PVE sucks" whining from the hard core 8v8 crowd on VN Boards affected Jacobs' view of this. I think the game needs both.