It is truly amazing to see how much money people are willing to throw at such a shallow game.
Maybe to them it's not shallow? How do YOU spend your money? show us your credit card statements so we could critique it.
Agreed, and I wonder how much the five years of "PVE sucks" whining from the hard core 8v8 crowd on VN Boards affected Jacobs' view of this. I think the game needs both.
You forget, everything SunnyD hates holds true for everyone no matter what you say. You don't have a valid opinion at all.
DAOC was without question the best PvP mmo, to say CU is just shallow (without any development to base on to) is calling every MMO shallow.
She/he could just sum it up with saying they don't like pvp. Or better yet, stop thread crapping.
Anyway, i put in $250. Andrew the programmer for it has a new concept video up.
DAOC was a hell of a lot more than pvp. (Yes, I played it, in fact it was my first MMORPG)
Still, I was more commenting on how this is the first "kickstarter" that I've actually been in the company of people actively throwing huge wads of money at, regardless of my personal opinions on the game itself (or lack thereof). I've only known one other person willing to put down large sums (for lifetime subs) on titles, but that was AFTER he had already gotten to at least participate in betas.
DAOC was a hell of a lot more than pvp. (Yes, I played it, in fact it was my first MMORPG)
DAOC was a hell of a lot more than pvp. (Yes, I played it, in fact it was my first MMORPG)
DAOC wasn't even open world pvp, as far as I remember. You had to go to a special area for pvp (rvr).
Is this proposed game gonna be the same way, or true open world pvp?
DAOC was segregated yes - there was PvE only in the mainlands and RvR in the frontiers.
Early on some of the best pve for leveling purposes could actually be found in the frontiers... at the risk of getting ganked, of course.
Yah I liked to pve on downtimes (like alb zerg might as well pve for a bit till more log on). I would be fine without PvE if they have lots of other things to do that is rewarding other than killing a million bugs.
To me one of the concerns is crafting. Just how relied on crafting do you have to be? Do crafters HAVE to rvr to get items to craft or they going to have bots just sitting all in a circle..i hope not.
I also worry about leveling progression, to many games (guild wars 2, WoW, etc) you can max level in a month just casual playing. I hope its like DAOC that takes quite a bit of time (took me almost 6+ months to get zerker to 50).
Daoc took less than 8 hours to level to 50, which is part of why I loved it. Could hit 50 and go out and RvR in a weekend.
At inception it literally took months to hit 50. I played three to five hours a night with an active guild and my first character took something like six months to cap.
This was mainly enabled by buff-bots and powerleveling, especially with TOA buff bonus. A level 50 cabalist with a buffbot with full buff bonus could do a PL in classic zones to 50 in about 10 hours. I think my record for a PL was in about 4 hours from 1 to 45 for 3 or 4 characters, but that was down in DF before they nerfed the insta-spawn room. Granted, this was with a RR6 necromancer with some serious power regen built into the suit and an ML10 RR5 buffbot to support. (It also didn't include time to get to DF, setup, etc.)
Daoc took less than 8 hours to level to 50, which is part of why I loved it. Could hit 50 and go out and RvR in a weekend.
Daoc took less than 8 hours to level to 50, which is part of why I loved it. Could hit 50 and go out and RvR in a weekend.
Maybe after several expansions and buffbots ruined the scene. But back in vanilla and DF, no. Not even close.
It sometimes took less than eight hours to get a group together to go leveling.
Daoc took less than 8 hours to level to 50, which is part of why I loved it. Could hit 50 and go out and RvR in a weekend.
I do remember after the pbaoe + buffbots became viable seeing and participating in pbaoe leveling groups that would move the xp bar at phenominal rates. Sort of reminds me of before they nerfed tanks in City of Heroes.