Can God (if there is one) make something so.......

[syadnom]

believing in things for which their is no proof and accepting the thought that one simple does not have the capacity to reason on that level is blind. all magics of the past are simple tools today. today, people percieve a god/gods but tomarrow people will know what they saw as god as a simple property of the universe like hot and cold. but then, people will see the next unknown as god, so god evolves and man advances.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

im sorry but how people can go on believing things that if we try to imagine - over 2000 years ago - (narrow minded, would believe ANYTHING, small things to us would be a miracle to them) some people wrote some books(gospels whatever) and now 2000 years later we still believe those narrow minded people who lived in the unstructured lives they did...

sorry - we live in a world of - i see - i believe...

i refuse to believe simply because lots of people 2000 years ago wrote books about something THEY believed in and saw etc i should go by those books..

the bible was contsructed by MAN, Gospels by MAN...all 2000 years ago...

funny how now we live in a age of proof and science that all these "miracles" seem to have disappeared and gone..no more divine intervention (unless you class dumb luck as miracles) - no arks, eves, signs from god - nothing..nadda...

and if you wanna play the " we're being punished and hes gone on a holiday" card that just doesnt wash...

if god is all forgiving as they say - god will prove himself to me when the time is right - if there IS a god..then he constructed me this way to believe what i see - and hey - why shoul di go to hell for being a human being in my own right (what god created?) lol....

gotta love religion - more people have died over religion then anything good come of it..just look at the middle east ( no matter how mad they are they are governed by religion)
same for hitler and the whole jewish thing...

 

[syadnom]

i have to agree with josh1413. people dont use faith to guide them , they use religeon, with i believe is a relic of ancient times. i have no issue with faith but blind religeon has caused a lot of death, and will continue to cause a lot of death in the future. the middle east has had nothing but death for thousands of year over religeon, and it wont end anytime soon

 

[syadnom]

read wrong post, not josh1413, but discobiscuit instead

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s


Yep, we created the tsunamis that wiped out hundreds of thousands of innocent people, many of them helpless children and elderly.

Like somebody else stated, man has the freedom of choice. An earthquake caused the tsunamis and people got in the way. They exercised their choice to live in or be in the area where the tsunami happened. Please don't take this the wrong way like I am blaming these people for making a bad choice. If this were a regular occurrence I'm sure people would not live near oceans. The universe just happens and sometimes people get in the wrong place at the wrong time. People live in Florida and have to suffer constant hurricanes. People live in California and have to suffer the risk of the western part of the country falling into the sea one day. If you live on a coastal area, you have to accept the risk that there could be a tsunami. I think of it kind of like, what if God made us but he has some kinda "prime directive" thing where he won't intervene. Maybe God created the universe and then was like, "woah, this is cool! Somebody has got to see this! Hmm, and they have to be able to appreciate it but not really fully comprehend it. I've got it. MAN!"

 

[sodcha0s]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: sodcha0s


Yep, we created the tsunamis that wiped out hundreds of thousands of innocent people, many of them helpless children and elderly.

Like somebody else stated, man has the freedom of choice. An earthquake caused the tsunamis and people got in the way. They exercised their choice to live in or be in the area where the tsunami happened. Please don't take this the wrong way like I am blaming these people for making a bad choice. If this were a regular occurrence I'm sure people would not live near oceans. The universe just happens and sometimes people get in the wrong place at the wrong time. People live in Florida and have to suffer constant hurricanes. People live in California and have to suffer the risk of the western part of the country falling into the sea one day. If you live on a coastal area, you have to accept the risk that there could be a tsunami. I think of it kind of like, what if God made us but he has some kinda "prime directive" thing where he won't intervene. Maybe God created the universe and then was like, "woah, this is cool! Somebody has got to see this! Hmm, and they have to be able to appreciate it but not really fully comprehend it. I've got it. MAN!"

nevermind

 

[hondAS2ooo170]

if u asked god wouldnt u have to ask the same question 3 times to 3 diff peps sinse he is 3 being in one?

 

[syadnom]

no, if their is a god, and god is omnipotent, then you wouldnt even need to ask.

 

[WaxHaX0rS]

For the love of God (maybe), this is hurting my head even more. I simply can not comprehend how people can just "have faith." In what? What makes you have faith? What is so significant and compelling about the story of Jesus that makes you have faith in it? Perhaps it's because that's all you've ever known? Perhaps you don't WANT to know the truth? I just want to know. Why?

BTW, I'll look into that "evidence" with an open mind, but I will try to dissect it like any other information I read.

 

[MetalStorm]

You know what I find quite amusing? The fact that no one can decide which god is the best! If you've looked at other religions, there's far more than just 1 god out there folks!

I'm guessing the other "gods" weren't very happy when all their supporters were wiped out by a huge flood! Especially as I'm pretty sure that only 2 of every animal were taken with them on Noahs ark and there were only 2 humans.

Oh does that mean that even though everyone spawned from 2 single people (talk about inbreeding!) that they didn't even believe in the god that supposedly caused the flood?

Oh noes!

 

[beyoku]

ugghhh. The answer to this is "YES"
Because "God" can do anything if you ask him to make a rock that he cannot move he could would make it.
If you told him to move it he would then move it.

 

[minime72706]

Originally posted by: WaxHaX0rS
For the love of God (maybe), this is hurting my head even more. I simply can not comprehend how people can just "have faith." In what? What makes you have faith? What is so significant and compelling about the story of Jesus that makes you have faith in it? Perhaps it's because that's all you've ever known? Perhaps you don't WANT to know the truth? I just want to know. Why?

BTW, I'll look into that "evidence" with an open mind, but I will try to dissect it like any other information I read.

I didn't mean evidence that Jesus was the son of God, but historical evidece. The people and cities are all acurate and some stories have a lot of evidence for them. one example: on the top of Mt. ararat they found a shape that matches the description of noahs ark from the bible.
If it is a boat why would it be on top of a mountian that far from sea level?
While the waters may not have covered the whole world, the known world then would have been very small.

Link to ark
Read a few of these sites for more history

The faith part can't be proven yet, and never can be disproven.

 

[Gilby]

Originally posted by: minime72706
I didn't mean evidence that Jesus was the son of God, but historical evidece. The people and cities are all acurate

Um. No, they aren't. Some are somewhat correct, but there's usually errors in dates and locations. The Bible's got people and groups being around half a millenia or so before or after what archeological evidence suggests. (Talking about the big things like cultures/nations here, not individual people.)

and some stories have a lot of evidence for them. one example: on the top of Mt. ararat they found a shape that matches the description of noahs ark from the bible.

Um. No. They haven't.

The faith part can't be proven yet, and never can be disproven.

Of course it can't. Not, at least, if Barnum was correct. From your posts, I can safely conclude he was.

 

[ndolf]

Can god make me GOD?
if i am GOD, can i make the other god just human with no power?
If i am GOD, i would make everyone GOD, yeah, lets party eternity and hope some idiots is given GODly knowledge to not ruin this happiness

 

[WaxHaX0rS]

Originally posted by: minime72706

Originally posted by: WaxHaX0rS
For the love of God (maybe), this is hurting my head even more. I simply can not comprehend how people can just "have faith." In what? What makes you have faith? What is so significant and compelling about the story of Jesus that makes you have faith in it? Perhaps it's because that's all you've ever known? Perhaps you don't WANT to know the truth? I just want to know. Why?

BTW, I'll look into that "evidence" with an open mind, but I will try to dissect it like any other information I read.

I didn't mean evidence that Jesus was the son of God, but historical evidece. The people and cities are all acurate and some stories have a lot of evidence for them. one example: on the top of Mt. ararat they found a shape that matches the description of noahs ark from the bible.
If it is a boat why would it be on top of a mountian that far from sea level?
While the waters may not have covered the whole world, the known world then would have been very small.

Link to ark
Read a few of these sites for more history

The faith part can't be proven yet, and never can be disproven.

Why didn't you say so before, it all makes sense now. I'm going to start being a devout Christian now.

 

[rocketPack]

Originally posted by: phr0m
If there is a God and he (better yet it) has all this unlimted power (because after all he created everything) could it make a mountian so heavy that God couldnt even move it?

That's called a logical fallacy.