Can I reduce the price?

beany323 · Jan 28, 2005

Buddy, get what you can afford... if you want something that requires you to wait 1-2 months, then do it... (prices are more than likely to fall...(i myself am kinda hoping for that also)).

there is allot of knowledge here, but there are quite a few fanboys... (no names please!)

i am 90% set on my own system and who knows, in 1-2 months i may add or remove some items...

but to be honest, you are not going to get the "newest" items cheap.... new toys cost money...

its your call and its your dime!!

g/l

edit: and ditch the raptors, you dont need them, worse case get one for gaming (which adds very little to load times (so i been told). myself, atm going with one raptor 36mb and a storage drive..(200+ mb).

drop the o/s and that security thingy.

KoolDrew · Jan 28, 2005

If you want to stay in the ~1500 range get something like this:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 90nm
Thermalright XP-90 w/ panaflo fan
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Leadtek 6800GT
Seagate hard drive (pick w/e size you need)
NEC DVD+RW 3520A Optical drive
Floppy drive (comes in handy)
Antec Sonota w/ 380w PSU
Samsung 997DF 19" Display
Logitech X-530 5.1
Logitech MX510
Logitech Elite keyboard

I have reccomended the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum alot, but lately I have heard alot of good things about the Epox board and heard people get very good OC's. I would check that mobo out

incinerate55 · Jan 28, 2005

and as for memory, high performance memory is going to do nothing but waste money once again, valueram has a very little difference between high performance, and are you going for pc3200 or what..
I would recommend either http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=20-145-440&depa=1 or http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=20-144-310&depa=1
I have the geil, and its stable, fast, cheap

As for the power supply, kooldrew a 380 watt will do it sure, but a computer will last longer on a 450+, as your parts get older, they demand more power, which is why its better to get a 450+ which is definitely worth the extra money

Tarrant64 · Jan 28, 2005

Originally posted by: beany323
Buddy, get what you can afford... if you want something that requires you to wait 1-2 months, then do it... (prices are more than likely to fall...(i myself am kinda hoping for that also)).

there is allot of knowledge here, but there are quite a few fanboys... (no names please!)

i am 90% set on my own system and who knows, in 1-2 months i may add or remove some items...

but to be honest, you are not going to get the "newest" items cheap.... new toys cost money...

its your call and its your dime!!

g/l

edit: and ditch the raptors, you dont need them, worse case get one for gaming (which adds very little to load times (so i been told). myself, atm going with one raptor 36gb and a storage drive..(200+ gb).

drop the o/s and that security thingy.

I hope not 36mb or 200+ mb

Fixed.

Gamingphreek · Jan 28, 2005

Originally posted by: incinerate55
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHSFHLSDFKDSFDFLKJFGLDFIJGDFGLKJFGLKJHHJKLGF WHAT IN THE FLYING F#$#$$%%^%%^& ^%&^%&%^&

YOU ARE A F**KING IDIOT, DROP THE USELESS SH*T ROFLFLFDLDFSDFLKSDFLDSKGFDFDGLKJDFGLKJDFLJFLJKGJLKGFJFHFGHJFGJFGHLKJFGHLKJFGH

Stop posting troll.

Even on your other posts they are useless and serve no purpose, and dont benefit the thread.

-Kevin

The Demon · Jan 29, 2005

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Originally posted by: incinerate55
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHSFHLSDFKDSFDFLKJFGLDFIJGDFGLKJFGLKJHHJKLGF WHAT IN THE FLYING F#$#$$%%^%%^& ^%&^%&%^&

YOU ARE A F**KING IDIOT, DROP THE USELESS SH*T ROFLFLFDLDFSDFLKSDFLDSKGFDFDGLKJDFGLKJDFLJFLJKGJLKGFJFHFGHJFGJFGHLKJFGHLKJFGH
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Stop posting troll.

Even on your other posts they are useless and serve no purpose, and dont benefit the thread.

-Kevin

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All these years on-line and you guys haven't figured out yet that when you feed a troll it grows? -DAPUNISHER

Actually I find Incinerates trabachary to be enlightening. Unless you are running dual CPU's or higher, with or without SLI, with water-cooling and 6 case fans, all you need is a 550W power supply. Asisde from Incinerates behaviour he is right!!! I didn't know we were holding peoples hands here.

Chosonman · Jan 29, 2005

Originally posted by: RandomFool
buy less expensive stuff?

yea

Crescent13 · Jan 29, 2005

I have come to my senses now and have lowered the price down to 1,433.78. The only problem with this is that this is the price without the monitor.

Power Supply: OCZ Mod Stream 450 Watt Power Supply $90.00
Info at: http://www.ocztechnology.com/p...modstream_power_supply
Sold at: http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=17-104-154&depa=0

Case: Lian-LI PC-65B $116.00
Info at: http://www.lian-li.com/product...43906579a8d01e9bd82756
Sold at: http://www.newegg.com/app/view...Cases&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me

Motherboard: Chaintech NVF4/Zenith VE $135.00
Info at: http://www.chaintechusa.com/tw...asp?MPSNo=13&PISNo=318
Sold at: http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=13-152-049&depa=1

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ $199.99
Info at: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Proce..._118_9485_9487,00.html
Sold at: http://www.tigerdirect.com/app...INGDF&CMP=OTC-SHOPPING

Processor Cooling: Asus Star Ice Cpu Cooler $44.99
Info at: http://usa.asus.com/products/p...g/starice/overview.htm
Sold at: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/...372300&affiliate=yahoo

Processor Thermal Paste: Cooler Master HTK-002 High Performance Thermal Compund $10.99
Info at: http://www.coolermaster.com/in...=HTK-002&other_title=0
Sold at: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/...407&affiliate=shopping

Video Card: Albatron PC6600GTV $210.00
Info at: http://www.albatron.com.tw/eng...ication.asp?pro_id=131
Sold at: http://www.newegg.com/app/view...Cards&CMP=OTC-d3alt1me

Hard Drives: Seagate Barracuda 700.8 SATA NCQ $135.00
Info at: http://www.seagate.com/cda/pro...ail/0,1081,633,00.html
Sold at: http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=22-148-066&depa=0

Memory: Corsair Value Select VS1GBKIT $134.00
Info at: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/valueselect.html
Sold at: http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=20-145-440&depa=1

Optical Drive: NEC ND-3500A $77.00
Info at: http://www.necsam.com/optical/products/ND3500A/
Sold at: http://www2.shopping.com/xPC-1...L_Internal_Drive_Black

Mouse: Logitech MX 510 Performance Optical Mouse $34.99
Info at: http://www.logitech.com/index....ID=2142,CONTENTID=8070
Sold at: http://www.buy.com/retail/prod...egory=Comp&dcaid=17379

Keyboard: Logitech Elite Keyboard $29.88
Info at: http://www.logitech.com/index....ID=2166,CONTENTID=5013
Sold at: http://www.jr.com/JRProductPag...le.datafeed.LGI+967234

Speakers: Logitech X-530 $79.95
Info at:
http://www.logitech.com/index....ID=2177,CONTENTID=9067
Sold at: http://www.logitech.com/index....ID=2177,CONTENTID=9067

Display:
Info at:
Sold at:

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional $135.99
Info at: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/default.mspx
Sold at: http://store.viosoftware.biz/wixpprsp2oem.html

Total Price: $1,433.78

amol · Jan 29, 2005

get an ND-3520A from newegg for $62 (i think its 62)

i think zzf has it with free shipping for $63

also, look for deals in the for sale/for trade forums

Gamingphreek · Jan 29, 2005

#1 That Asus cooler is a waste of money. It is not good at all. Just get yourself a Zalman 7700 Series, or a Thermalright cooler with a Panaflo fan. MUCH MUCH better band for your buck.

#2. That Thermal Interface Material (TIM) is a waste of money. Just get some Arctic Silver 5 for cheaper. It is much better.

#3. http://www.newegg.com/app/View...tion=14-127-147&depa=1 : This is much cheaper and a nicer card as well.

#4. THe DVD_RW drive.... the 3520A can be had for cheaper and is a bit better than that as it is a newer model.

You can get the Logitech MX duo for a better price which includes the MX700 mouse (Arguablly one of the best mice out there).

-Kevin

ts3433 · Jan 29, 2005

Power Supply: OCZ Mod Stream 450 Watt Power Supply $90.00 This is a nice PSU, but see the next comment:

Case: Lian-LI PC-65B $116.00 While Lian Li cases are awesome, you may not be able to fit it in this budget. For the same price as this, you can get the Antec Sonata, a very nice case which includes a nice Antec True380S PSU. This will power your rig well; you shouldn't need more unless you go with SLIed 6800 Ultras or 5 hard drives.

Motherboard: Chaintech NVF4/Zenith VE $135.00

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ $199.99

Processor Cooling: Asus Star Ice Cpu Cooler $44.99 I'd suggest trying out the stock cooler, as it's quite good at cooling. If you find you need something quieter or more effective, get a Zalman 7000 AlCu. It's cheaper and doesn't look as ugly.

Processor Thermal Paste: Cooler Master HTK-002 High Performance Thermal Compund $10.99 Don't bother replacing the stock heatsink's paste (it's really high-quality Shin-Etsu), but for an aftermarket unit, try Arctic Ceramique or Arctic Silver 5.

Video Card: Albatron PC6600GTV $210.00 This 6600GT is a bit cheaper, and a better brand.

Hard Drives: Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 SATA NCQ $135.00

Memory: Corsair Value Select VS1GBKIT $134.00

Optical Drive: NEC ND-3500A $77.00 The 3520A should be available for this price.

Mouse: Logitech MX 510 Performance Optical Mouse $34.99

Keyboard: Logitech Elite Keyboard $29.88

Speakers: Logitech X-530 $79.95

Display: A good 19" CRT from NEC, Viewsonic, or Samsung should run you about $200-250.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional $135.99 Never mind the original comment; see below.

Gamingphreek · Jan 29, 2005

Dont go with Home Edition.

ts3433 · Jan 29, 2005

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Don't go with Home Edition.

I'm curious... why not?

Crescent13 · Jan 29, 2005

ts3433 · Jan 29, 2005

You'll likely end up with a meager 17-inch CRT at that price.

amol · Jan 29, 2005

judging by the ram, it looks like you're not going to overclock

you can sacrifice your 3200+ for a 3000+, you'll get some more money for an LCD

and look at the PM i sent you

Gamingphreek · Jan 29, 2005

Looks like a killer system you have there.

The only thing i would change is the case. That way you can have more money for a monitor. Lian Li is very high quality and therefore you pay for it. Get on of the Chiefte/Antec imitation cases, or the a nice antec case. That should save some money which you can use to buy a decent monitor.

I'm curious... why not?

Well many reasons. 1 it is very restricted and lacks many customization options, 2 you cannot trade it in for XP-64 when it comes out you would have to pay, 3 in my experience Pro is much more stable, 4 Home does not support disk spanning or management or Advanced Networking options. Need i go on

-Kevin

SunSamurai · Jan 29, 2005

Originally posted by: ts3433

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Don't go with Home Edition.

Click to expand...

I'm curious... why not?

Becuase it doesnt have "pro" in the name, of course.

Crescent13 · Jan 29, 2005

Originally posted by: Amol
judging by the ram, it looks like you're not going to overclock

you can sacrifice your 3200+ for a 3000+, you'll get some more money for an LCD

and look at the PM i sent you

I thought that this ram would work good for overclocking, won't it?

ts3433 · Jan 29, 2005

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: Amol
judging by the ram, it looks like you're not going to overclock

you can sacrifice your 3200+ for a 3000+, you'll get some more money for an LCD

and look at the PM i sent you

Click to expand...

I thought that this ram would work good for overclocking, won't it?

It will (if you're referring to just CPU overclocking, anyway; running 1:1 makes little difference versus a divider on the A64)

Gamingphreek: Thanks.

aeternitas: -22ty billion/10. I'm not that naive.

Gamingphreek · Jan 29, 2005

Well it will out of the box provide excellent performance. However if you plan on OCing the Low Latency high quality RAM will go much farther. The Corsair modules are very nice however and should OC fairly well considering they are value RAM. I have heard of people making it to 235 on that RAM.

-Kevin

flexy · Jan 29, 2005

[specs]

I cant understand people buying a $180 keyboard, $250 case, $300 for the dfi board (WHERE on earth did you buy the board for this price ?)..and then settling for a A64 3200 and going with the crappiest video card brand ever, which is XFX

Gamingphreek · Jan 29, 2005

Originally posted by: flexy

[specs]

Click to expand...

I cant understand people buying a $180 keyboard, $250 case, $300 for the dfi board (WHERE on earth did you buy the board for this price ?)..and then settling for a A64 3200 and going with the crappiest video card brand ever, which is XFX

Well why dont you look at the latest update (ie READ THE THREAD!) before commenting on it.

-Kevin

amol · Jan 29, 2005

are you geting an OEM 3200+?

you really need the cpu cooler if youre getting retail?

flexy · Jan 29, 2005

yes update looks MUCH better...but i wouldnt want a single 6600, or is he going SLI ?

Can I reduce the price?

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