Can Minesweeper be impossible some times

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dullard

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No, not impossible. But there are times where you have to make a 50/50 guess and there is no evidence pointing either way. If you have to make ten 50/50 guesses in a difficult Minesweeper game, then you have a 0.1% chance of winning even if you do everything perfectly.
 

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Originally posted by: dullard
No, not impossible. But there are times where you have to make a 50/50 guess and there is no evidence pointing either way. If you have to make ten 50/50 guesses in a difficult Minesweeper game, then you have a 0.1% chance of winning even if you do everything perfectly.


pretty much, you might as well do the 50/50's as soon as you get them, they're almost always within 2-3 blocks of a wall
 

ntdz

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How about solitare? Can solitare be impossible to win at times? It sure seems like it sometimes...
 

coomar

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i'm fairly certain that solitare can be impossible to solve if you play the 3 card variant
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: ntdz
How about solitare? Can solitare be impossible to win at times? It sure seems like it sometimes...
Yes it can be impossible, if you are talking about the most common variations of Klondike.
 

gotsmack

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has anyone ever hit a mine in the first try? or is it programmed to not let the first one be a hit?
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: gotsmack
has anyone ever hit a mine in the first try? or is it programmed to not let the first one be a hit?

it happens all the time
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: gotsmack
has anyone ever hit a mine in the first try? or is it programmed to not let the first one be a hit?
I swear I used to be able to hit a mine on the first try. But the newer Minesweeper versions seem to prevent this.
 

garkon

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: ntdz
How about solitare? Can solitare be impossible to win at times? It sure seems like it sometimes...

Wait, it's possible to win?:confsued;

exactly, what are you guys talking about
 

teckmaster

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there used to be an easter egg in minesweeper where you could see what was behind the box before you clicked on it.
 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: ntdz
How about solitare? Can solitare be impossible to win at times? It sure seems like it sometimes...

Wait, it's possible to win?:confsued;


Only if you start wrong, you can get into an imposible scenario, but if you reset the board the same exact way it was, you would eventually be able to solve it.
 

kd2777

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yess I have had to guess a few times. I have had several situations where the was no logical choice.

kd
 

jimbob200521

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every game includes one guese, but after that, there is an actual pattern to it, something with the numbers. a friends ex-girlfriend could play that game and never lose. i just got confused
 

cpacini

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Originally posted by: newParadigm
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: ntdz
How about solitare? Can solitare be impossible to win at times? It sure seems like it sometimes...

Wait, it's possible to win?:confsued;


Only if you start wrong, you can get into an imposible scenario, but if you reset the board the same exact way it was, you would eventually be able to solve it.


Not true, i have run into games where there were no legal moves at all, even after going through the entire deck (three cards at a time)

doesnt happen very often , but quite posible
 

sswingle

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: gotsmack
has anyone ever hit a mine in the first try? or is it programmed to not let the first one be a hit?
I swear I used to be able to hit a mine on the first try. But the newer Minesweeper versions seem to prevent this.

Yea, I think they changed it in later versions of windows.
 

inveterate

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BUT does the later version of windows Minesweeper also code it so that you don't run into the NEED to guess.

 
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Originally posted by: cpacini
Originally posted by: newParadigm
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: ntdz
How about solitare? Can solitare be impossible to win at times? It sure seems like it sometimes...

Wait, it's possible to win?:confsued;


Only if you start wrong, you can get into an imposible scenario, but if you reset the board the same exact way it was, you would eventually be able to solve it.


Not true, i have run into games where there were no legal moves at all, even after going through the entire deck (three cards at a time)

doesnt happen very often , but quite posible

I think he meant that each game is possible to win, just that some decks only have 1 way of winning it and if you don't follow that exact method, you will awlays end up in a deadend situation. But if you reset and keep trying, u might eventually get the right method to win.
 

chuckywang

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I've played Minesweeper a lot (record of 17 seconds on Intermediate). I usually play Intermediate since you usually can complete them without guessing (although sometimes you get into those 4/2 traps). You almost always have to guess at some point in Expert, so it's not really a test of skill.
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: dullard
No, not impossible. But there are times where you have to make a 50/50 guess and there is no evidence pointing either way. If you have to make ten 50/50 guesses in a difficult Minesweeper game, then you have a 0.1% chance of winning even if you do everything perfectly.

Never have I had to make more than two 50/50 guesses, even on Expert.
 
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