Can someone explain the weed thing to me please?

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Ns1

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Sound good? No? Okay, fine, don't work here.

best part about this response is several white collar industries needed to/need to drop their anti-weed policies in order to attract talent.
 

bradly1101

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Once again your true to your username. The worst thing about pot these days is all the chemicals. The stuff coming from Colorado and such is so much better than the good stuff I got in high school. Its not laced with drugs they just know how to grow it now. They use a shit ton of fertilizers, pesticides, weed killers, rodent killers, etc. No telling what harm the new stuff will cause.
I know of a couple of growers through others. They told me about the chemicals, and that they are probably going out of business soon. "Big Marijuana" is taking over and driving prices too low they say.

It looks like Australia wants to be a big exporter.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/news/economy/australia-legal-cannabis-exports/index.html
 
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SearchMaster

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No offense but "it's just a plant" is a dumb argument. There are a lot of harmful and deadly plants. I am all for marijuana legalization, and I'm not a partaker. I never understood why Obama started going after CA for MMJ - this should absolutely be a states' rights issue and not a federal issue.
 

Squisher

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Once again your true to your username. The worst thing about pot these days is all the chemicals. The stuff coming from Colorado and such is so much better than the good stuff I got in high school. Its not laced with drugs they just know how to grow it now. They use a shit ton of fertilizers, pesticides, weed killers, rodent killers, etc. No telling what harm the new stuff will cause.
Most grow operations are inside a controlled environment and pretty self contained. Although pesticides are used sometimes and fertilizers are used a lot. It is common practice to stop the use of these in the last weeks of production and flush them out of the weed. If sold to a dispensary it'll be tested and a grower that sells stuff over certain limits will be blacklisted and will have to go back to the illegal drug trade.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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The problem with "Big Marijuana" is they'll never be able to faithfully recreate the top shelf strains (or at least they havent discovered a way to do so yet). So there will always be room for craft growers.
 

highland145

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A friend of mine told me Congress put a DOJ policy in place to prevent prosecution, or spending federal money on it at least, which Trump is trying to rescind. Not sure if that is true or not, but it would make sense as to why the boys in black wind breakers don't walk into any Colorado/California dispensary and confiscate every ounce of weed in the joint.

Either way it doesn't make sense. Federal law > State law and that drug carries some harsh penalties. You won't find me on the pier doing bong rips with my wait staff at PF Changs.

As for the employers, it's always been the same. Sure, you can work here, but you can't smoke weed and work here and if I test you and you're positive, you're going to be fired. Sound good? No? Okay, fine, don't work here.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...o-end-policy-that-let-legal-pot-flourish.html
 

Thebobo

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I know of a couple of growers through others. They told me about the chemicals, and that they are probably going out of business soon. "Big Marijuana" is taking over and driving prices too low they say. And they had obviously made tons all on a cash basis.

It looks like Australia wants to be a big exporter.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/news/economy/australia-legal-cannabis-exports/index.html

That's what I have always said, big weed will take over and write the rules just like alcohol.

DCs law is good because you can't sell it unless its medical, If you want it you have to grow it yourself or a friend can give it to you.
 
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Darwin333

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Depends on the situation. I know people who will use either as a crutch but the pot costs them a lot more and puts them into a shady lifestyle dealing with shady people. Gang bangers don't do drive by shootings over alcohol, and casual drinkers aren't as often exposed to harder gateway drugs.

It's easy to say just don't do harder drugs, but I can understand kids bowing to peer pressure, or getting their first taste of heroin because it was laced in a joint. Heck, getting a whole bag of wonderpot and not even knowing what was in it... but they want more.

No one is selling people weed laced with heroin or any other drug unless the buyer expressly asks for it, the dealer sells that drug too, and the buyer pays extra for it. Why in the hell would they lace a $20 bag of weed with $20+ more drugs that they can still only sell for $20, that's just retarded. Sure there have been a few cases of assholes passing a joint laced with something to someone unknowingly but the entire "buying laced weed" thing unknowingly is a myth. Secondly, weed is generally a lot cheaper than alcohol bang for your buck wise. Lastly the vast majority of people who smoke pot in states that it's still illegal have regular pot dealers who just sell pot.

The real gateway into the hardest/deadliest drug is pharmaceuticals that are usually obtained in a perfectly legal manner initially.
 

Darwin333

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Wow, what a complete and total idiot.

“I reject the idea that America will be a better place if marijuana is sold in every corner store. And I am astonished to hear people suggest that we can solve our heroin crisis by legalizing marijuana – so people can trade one life-wrecking dependency for another that’s only slightly less awful,”

Weed is only slightly less awful than freaking heroin??? Man, he must have been smoking some really good shit when he made that statement.
 

Dulanic

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It's a waste of money and resources for the federal government to fight this. All this will do is push people back to illegal weed that can't be taxed. Mexico I am sure is happy.
 

Charmonium

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Our out-dated, victorian attitudes on drugs are gradually changing. For most of human history psychoactive substances have been an integral part of our culture and even our religions. We're finally moving back in that direction but the old guard, which is still in control in many places, can't accept that and still think that drug enforcement actually works despite all evidence to the contrary.

The real problem is with opiates and designer chemicals. In some cases people really do need to be protected from themselves and opiates are a perfect example of that. But never forget that the real perpetrators of the crisis are major drug distributors like McKesson.

We should not only legalize marijuana nation wide but we should commute the sentences of all non-violent drug offenders. We'd empty all of the prisons and save billions.
 

mindless1

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Once again your true to your username. The worst thing about pot these days is all the chemicals. The stuff coming from Colorado and such is so much better than the good stuff I got in high school. Its not laced with drugs they just know how to grow it now. They use a shit ton of fertilizers, pesticides, weed killers, rodent killers, etc. No telling what harm the new stuff will cause.
Seems like you are too fixated on your own small world, come to the city and see how the drug trade works. Plus you're totally ignorant about growing anything. Fertilizers are a good thing and there is no evidence that those chemicals are an epidemic. Heroin is.
 
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nakedfrog

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Are you suggesting that prescription drugs are not the cause of the heroin epidemic?
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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Are you suggesting that prescription drugs are not the cause of the heroin epidemic?

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Can't wait to hear how marijuana is an adequate substitute for fentanyl patches.
 

zerocool84

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I'm happy it's legal in my state of California. People are going to use it no matter what so why not make money off of it. Get the stigma off of it being horrible since it's less horrible for you than legal alcohol.
 

Darwin333

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That's what I have always said, big weed will take over and write the rules just like alcohol.

DCs law is good because you can't sell it unless its medical, If you want it you have to grow it yourself or a fried can give it to you.

Shrug, I don't see big weed taking over until it is legal on a Federal level. Right now it's an all cash business and federal taxes are a nightmare. Since it is an illegal activity on the federal level you can't write off your expenses like you would do in a normal business. So normally if it costs you $80 to make $100 you would pay taxes on your $20 profit with weed you legally have to pay federal taxes on all $100. Also if just a few players are controlling the market all of the assets and funds made off of weed will be in just a few companies which would be a wet dream seizure for the feds. No one would be able to resist a massive seizure like that, we are talking at least a billion+ dollars in seizures from just a few players. That's just the money, they will also scoop up even more in equipment, property and other assets for the production of weed or with its proceeds.

To make matters even worse is the banking aspect of it, very few banks will touch weed money in states that it has been legalized. There is a real possibility that the feds could literally shut a bank down for accepting weed money and using a separate company that isn't connected to your weed business to deposit money into a bank could easily be considered money laundering. There are a few smaller banks that offer bank accounts to companies dealing with weed but they are few and far between and the bankers themselves could potentially face money laundering and even racketeering charges should the feds really crack down. For the most part, the majority of the $10 billion dollar legal weed industry is an all cash business. One poor bastard who owned a dispensary was kidnapped, tortured and had his dick cut off by "friends" because they thought he had millions buried in the desert. Tons of other armed robberies have happened, which is to be expected with so much cash floating around, and it is very hard to insure and expensive as hell if you can.
 

Darwin333

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Everyone with that excuse likes to use it. Somebody else's fault.

You literally just stated that marijuana was a gateway to harder drugs a few posts back. When someone points out that in fact painkillers are the major gateway to the heroin epidemic you say it's an excuse???
 

mindless1

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^ It's a gateway for kids, but the older those kids get, the more of an excuse it becomes. You're also misunderstanding what I mean by gateway.

It's not just that someone tries pot and thinks "wasn't bad for me, I'll try heroin", but rather the sketchy circles of friends put them in exposure to harder drugs. Getting a script for painkillers from your doctor doesn't put you into a circle of users and dealers, into that scene and in the case of kids, no peer pressure.

What minimally competent adult can't figure out that opiates are addictive? Is the doctor shoving them in their mouths at gunpoint? I'm not arguing that people with severe pain shouldn't have relief, but the majority of people hooked on heroin aren't in severe pain.
 
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Ns1

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Getting a script for painkillers from your doctor doesn't put you into a circle of users and dealers.

sure it does, except narcotic dealers accept insurance and wear white coats. they even give you websites where you can search for your nearest dealer.

BigPharma, the only dealer you ever need :bigthumb:
 

zinfamous

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^ It's a gateway for kids, but the older those kids get, the more of an excuse it becomes. You're also misunderstanding what I mean by gateway.

It's not just that someone tries pot and thinks "wasn't bad for me, I'll try heroin", but rather the sketchy circles of friends put them in exposure to harder drugs. Getting a script for painkillers from your doctor doesn't put you into a circle of users and dealers, into that scene and in the case of kids, no peer pressure.

What minimally competent adult can't figure out that opiates are addictive? Is the doctor shoving them in their mouths at gunpoint? I'm not arguing that people with severe pain shouldn't have relief, but the majority of people hooked on heroin aren't in severe pain.

It absolutely does. No question. This isn't even worth your energy denying. You denied that the current heroin epidemic is not tied to the oxycontin industry over the last decade plus. There is no other real mitigating factor for what we have now, than legally prescribed pain killers. That's just a god damn fact.

A lot of people with real pain got addicted to these due to changing doses of the drug (industry falsely claimed, for many years, that these were non-addictive). Regulations forced the industry to alter dosing, alter prescriptions, forcing "apparently not-addicted" addicts into other options either to compensate or to replace if they had been removed from their drugs.

All of this was legal, which is why it is so god damn pervasive. You seem to be one of those that is unwilling to accept or simply don't realize how much worse this is than anything we have seen before with cocaine, with crack, meth, or heroin. This has become far, far, far worse. It's absolutely devastating, and it could only get to be this way expressly because it was a legalized method of customer addiction.
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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sure it does, except narcotic dealers accept insurance and wear white coats. they even give you websites where you can search for your nearest dealer.

BigPharma, the only dealer you ever need :bigthumb:
Where does he think all these opioid addicts got their start? From a prescription from their doctor.
 
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