Can someone explain why kneeling during the National Anthem is disrespectful to the troops?

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zzyzxroad

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i guess by your definition no is american anymore because there hasnt been a real america in decades. My America is Bad Ass America, not pussy America. Millennial America is a destitute wasteland lacking heart, grit and character. There are no John Waynes or Clint Eastwoods to be found.
My America is the one that rose up and destroyed Nazi Germany and nuked Japan back to the stone age twice in WWii. My America is the america which defeated communism in Korea and fought against it in Vietnam. Not embraced it as our primary means of life. My America is the one that put men on the moon in 1969-1975. My America spent millions of dollars to be able to write with a pen in space, Russia said, fuck it, we will just use a pencil. My America won the cold war and the arms race without ever firing a single shot. My America has every solder as either Bob Ross or Rambo or James Braddock. Every Cop is Bruce Willis or Bubba Smith. My America is an industrial powerhouse. Coal Mines and Steel Mills and Factories Oh My! The ozone layer is our canvas and greenhouse gasses are our colors. My America is the one where Regan fired 11,000 airline workers for an organized sick day. Every day my alarm is AC/DC. Toby Keith and the Angry American for Breakfast. Billy Joel: We Didnt Start the Fire for Lunch. Every Evening ends with Apollo Creed and James Brown singing Living in America, with flags and fireworks. Highway to the Danger Zone. Carlos Mencia is a genius. Ayn Rand is a role model. Toxic masculinity is our idol. Guns are our free speech. Fuck Globalism and the one world government Agenda.
Make America Great Again
Doctor Phil Mic Drop Bitch

ri-goddamn-diculous
 

umbrella39

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i guess by your definition no is american anymore because there hasnt been a real america in decades. My America is Bad Ass America, not pussy America. Millennial America is a destitute wasteland lacking heart, grit and character. There are no John Waynes or Clint Eastwoods to be found.
My America is the one that rose up and destroyed Nazi Germany and nuked Japan back to the stone age twice in WWii. My America is the america which defeated communism in Korea and fought against it in Vietnam. Not embraced it as our primary means of life. My America is the one that put men on the moon in 1969-1975. My America spent millions of dollars to be able to write with a pen in space, Russia said, fuck it, we will just use a pencil. My America won the cold war and the arms race without ever firing a single shot. My America has every solder as either Bob Ross or Rambo or James Braddock. Every Cop is Bruce Willis or Bubba Smith. My America is an industrial powerhouse. Coal Mines and Steel Mills and Factories Oh My! The ozone layer is our canvas and greenhouse gasses are our colors. My America is the one where Regan fired 11,000 airline workers for an organized sick day. Every day my alarm is AC/DC. Toby Keith and the Angry American for Breakfast. Billy Joel: We Didnt Start the Fire for Lunch. Every Evening ends with Apollo Creed and James Brown singing Living in America, with flags and fireworks. Highway to the Danger Zone. Carlos Mencia is a genius. Ayn Rand is a role model. Toxic masculinity is our idol. Guns are our free speech. Fuck Globalism and the one world government Agenda.
Make America Great Again
Doctor Phil Mic Drop Bitch

Didn't read. Felt like Kid Rock lyrics starting at me... I don't like Kid Rock. He is a fake American and fake Patriot, too...

P L O N K
 

umbrella39

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To the Ultra Rich elite NFL players, I say you are payed to play football. No protesting on the job. Pay more attention to entertaining the fans who paid to see a football game. I wont try to to convince people they need to pay some respect to the symbol of their country. But when you are being paid at least try to make the fans happy.

To wishes they were rich, NFL fans, I say that while your panties are crammed up your vaginas with your feigned indignation wails and your bs about when their job starts... I suggest you pay more attention to the fucking Anthem that is playing in the background while you are still sitting in your seat updating your Facebook page with your Check In Status... With your hat is still on... Drinking yet another beer before 1pm... Etc, etc, etc... These people are the ones who are being disrespectful and there are hundreds of them at every game I have ever been to x 15 games a week x 18 weeks a season... Pft
 
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hal2kilo

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To wishes they were rich, NFL fans, I say that while your panties are crammed up your vaginas with your feigned indignation wails and your bs about when their job starts... I suggest you pay more attention to the fucking Anthem that is playing in the background while you are still sitting in your seat updating your Facebook page with your Check In Status... With your hat is still on... Drinking yet another beer before 1pm... Etc, etc, etc... These people are the ones who are being disrespectful and there are hundreds of them at every game I have ever been to x 15 games a week x 18 weeks a season... Pft
Most standing there mouthing the words like Trump, cause all they know is 'and the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air".
 

JimKiler

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I was in the military for quite some time and I can tell you that you have no clue...this just in, YOU'RE AN IDIOT!! Research your history and find out some facts before you start blowing out garbage. You do have part of it correct, the National Anthem isn't solely for the military. However, when people think of the National Anthem the first thing that comes to mind is the military. Here are some facts: http://observer.case.edu/rutecki-kneeling-for-the-national-anthem-is-disrespect/ It is people like you (who think they have all the answers), that are the individuals who cause most of the problems.

I am sure he is going to read that after you brazenly called him an idiot. I guess the military did not teach you any manners. I will kneel for the next anthem and think of you.
 

esquared

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Fat Cheeto again has all the answers for players that don't stand with their hand over their heart during the anthem.

Donald Trump, once again, offers his solution to NFL's national anthem issue:
https://sports.yahoo.com/donald-trump-offers-solution-nfls-national-anthem-issue-224015604.html

“The NFL national anthem debate is alive and well again — can’t believe it!” Trump tweeted Friday afternoon. “Isn’t it in contract that players must stand at attention, hand on heart? The $40,000,000 commissioner must now make a stand. First time kneeling, out for game. Second time kneeling, out for season/no pay!”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020432499082702849


Here's a guy who seems to get it. Says there will be no punishment of his team for kneeling.

NY Giants co-owner on anthem protests: Trump 'has no understanding of why they take a knee'
https://sports.yahoo.com/ny-giants-...ump-no-understanding-take-knee-192000734.html



Divisive SOB.




 

sdifox

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Fat Cheeto again has all the answers for players that don't stand with their hand over their heart during the anthem.

Donald Trump, once again, offers his solution to NFL's national anthem issue:
https://sports.yahoo.com/donald-trump-offers-solution-nfls-national-anthem-issue-224015604.html

“The NFL national anthem debate is alive and well again — can’t believe it!” Trump tweeted Friday afternoon. “Isn’t it in contract that players must stand at attention, hand on heart? The $40,000,000 commissioner must now make a stand. First time kneeling, out for game. Second time kneeling, out for season/no pay!”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020432499082702849


Here's a guy who seems to get it. Says there will be no punishment of his team for kneeling.

NY Giants co-owner on anthem protests: Trump 'has no understanding of why they take a knee'
https://sports.yahoo.com/ny-giants-...ump-no-understanding-take-knee-192000734.html



Divisive SOB.





All the players have to say is "At least I don't suckup to Putin"
 

Commodus

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Fat Cheeto again has all the answers for players that don't stand with their hand over their heart during the anthem.

Donald Trump, once again, offers his solution to NFL's national anthem issue:
https://sports.yahoo.com/donald-trump-offers-solution-nfls-national-anthem-issue-224015604.html

“The NFL national anthem debate is alive and well again — can’t believe it!” Trump tweeted Friday afternoon. “Isn’t it in contract that players must stand at attention, hand on heart? The $40,000,000 commissioner must now make a stand. First time kneeling, out for game. Second time kneeling, out for season/no pay!”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1020432499082702849


Here's a guy who seems to get it. Says there will be no punishment of his team for kneeling.

NY Giants co-owner on anthem protests: Trump 'has no understanding of why they take a knee'
https://sports.yahoo.com/ny-giants-...ump-no-understanding-take-knee-192000734.html



Divisive SOB.

I want to see just how determined the NFL and its more close-minded team ownership would react to players kneeling en masse. Oh, so you're threatening to eject players for kneeling? Will you still do that if there are no players on the field? The NFL's leaders may talk tough, but they know they're nothing if their talent doesn't play.
 

soundforbjt

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I heard someone say and I believe this, that IF the players had said they were kneeling for all the soldiers that couldn't be there for the game that there'd be no story here at all.
 

Meghan54

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My America is the america which defeated communism in Korea and fought against it in Vietnam.


Not going to address all the stupidity of your post except this.....we never defeated N. Korea, numbnuts. S. Korea, the U.S. and I suppose the U.N. are technically still at war with N. Korea....an armistice was signed, not a peace treaty. The Korean War is still ongoing, just not with complete armed conflict any longer. But there was no peace treaty, therefore we did not defeat anyone on the Korean peninsula.

And I spent a tad over 7 years in the Army and never have thought of the military as my first thought when seeing the flag. Only in the minds of the delusional might that be true......
 
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I still can’t figure out why the NFL simply keeps players off the field during the Anthem like they’ve done in the past.
Problem solved.
 
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Troops fought and died for freedom. Not to force people to stand during a song if they happened to be at a stadium.

To my understanding taking the knee started or recently used was by special ops guys to show respect for fallen Bros or something similar.
 

zinfamous

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To my understanding taking the knee started or recently used was by special ops guys to show respect for fallen Bros or something similar.

Kaep actually saught advice from a former SEAL about a respectful means of protest--he wanted to sit during the anthem, but the SEAL said that kneeling would be better--I think there is a history of how it is done to honor fallen brothers--soldiers--and so it works as well with those innocent people murdered by cops.

So, it has at least one SEAL's approval (and daresay, if it was that guy doing it, there would never be a single peep about it), but of course the MAGAchuds wouldn't have any of it. They don't care to understand shit. It's just red mist 24/7 with those fucks.

I was wrong, it was a green beret (yeah, still special forces)


This is a newer article, but I recall one back when all that started that was all about the meeting between the two
 

HomerJS

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Anyone who still thinks taking a knee to protest police abuse ask yourselves this. Which is MORE disrespectful to the troops.

A. Taking a knee in protest
B. Trashing John McCain for being a 5 year POW. A soldier who was tortured during that time. Having done it because he, "like soldiers are aren't captured"
 

nickqt

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Anyone who still thinks taking a knee to protest police abuse ask yourselves this. Which is MORE disrespectful to the troops.

A. Taking a knee in protest
B. Trashing John McCain for being a 5 year POW. A soldier who was tortured during that time. Having done it because he, "like soldiers are aren't captured"
Depends. Whichever my cult leader does is OK.

Nice try at a gotcha question, libtard.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Anyone who still thinks taking a knee to protest police abuse ask yourselves this. Which is MORE disrespectful to the troops.

A. Taking a knee in protest
B. Trashing John McCain for being a 5 year POW. A soldier who was tortured during that time. Having done it because he, "like soldiers are aren't captured"

Or there is always this:

 
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zzyzxroad

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People like kaepernick tried to very respectively shed light on a problem. The tea party or whatever they call themselves now spun up the propaganda machine and turned the tables on them.
 
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