Can someone explain why kneeling during the National Anthem is disrespectful to the troops?

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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,689
25,000
136
*Everything* has been desecrated and destroyed. *Everything* dammit!

I do see nothing but a smoking crater outside my house that was once called America. Dogs and cats are living together, gay people are openly gay, I even saw a Hindu, Muslim, and some white people walking together. It is like hell on earth here.
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
12,648
201
106
@sao123, found those specific things that have been desecrated and destroyed yet?

Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God
King
Country / Patriotism
Family
Work Ethic
Personal Responsibility
Accountability
Respect
Tradition
History
Loyalty
Law
Order
Justice
Nobility
Chivalry
Patriarchy
Humility
Socio-Economic Status
...

I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.

 

PottedMeat

Lifer
Apr 17, 2002
12,365
475
126
Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God
King
Country / Patriotism
Family
Work Ethic
Personal Responsibility
Accountability
Respect
Tradition
History
Loyalty
Law
Order
Justice
Nobility
Chivalry
Patriarchy
Humility
Socio-Economic Status
...

I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.

 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
69,525
27,828
136
Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God - Good riddance
King - We don't have one of those.
Country / Patriotism - Your definition may vary.
Family - Mine's doing just fine, how about yours?
Work Ethic - LOL
Personal Responsibility - Conservatives could learn about this one. Maybe we could provide a brochure?
Accountability - Conservatives could learn about this one. Maybe we could provide a brochure?
Respect - Conservatives could learn about this one. Maybe we could provide a brochure?
Tradition - Worthy traditions endure, if a tradition fades away, it probably served no goodly purpose.
History - Conservatives really need to learn some and stop making shit up.
Loyalty - Has to be earned.
Law - I'm fer it, how about you?
Order - Whose order? The chart you posted suggests that order isn't an inherent good, a point I agree with.
Justice - I'm all fer justice, how about you?
Nobility - Your definition may vary.
Chivalry - Your definition may vary.
Patriarchy - Speaking of bad traditions.
Humility - I got humility in spades and modesty up the yingyang.
Socio-Economic Status - So you'll be voting liberal?
...
 
Dec 10, 2005
24,432
7,355
136
Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God
King
Country / Patriotism
Family
Work Ethic
Personal Responsibility
Accountability
Respect
Tradition
History
Loyalty
Law
Order
Justice
Nobility
Chivalry
Patriarchy
Humility
Socio-Economic Status
...

I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.

Why don't you use your words to tell us how each thing in your list has been destroyed or desecrated, and why that is bad?

As for your next sentence about this lovely graphic, LOL. Can you say something a little more off the rails?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
36,289
28,144
136
Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God - Mr. 2 Corinthians has never asked for forgiveness
King - acting like one as Time magazine pointed out
Country / Patriotism - Russia first
Family - List too long and fucked up
Work Ethic - Heard what he said about studying for NK summit? Executive time. Golf records.
Personal Responsibility - Never takes blame
Accountability - see above
Respect - Doesn't respect others
Tradition - does not respect traditions of our institutions
History - Doesn't read it.
Loyalty - Only for him none for others.
Law - You're kidding right?
Order - Runs WH in chaos
Justice - abuses Justice Department
Nobility - opposite of nobility
Chivalry - Once refused to help a dying man
Patriarchy - Too many family members in office
Humility - no explanation required
Socio-Economic Status - Shits in gold toilets

The one thing you've done right in this thread, provided a list in which Trump has violated each and every one. Congrats.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
11,679
1,944
126
I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.

Start psychotherapy with a licensed professional therapist.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,689
25,000
136
Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God
King
Country / Patriotism
Family
Work Ethic
Personal Responsibility
Accountability
Respect
Tradition
History
Loyalty
Law
Order
Justice
Nobility
Chivalry
Patriarchy
Humility
Socio-Economic Status
...

I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.

Use your words, not a picture. You are mad at "liberal" judges in the United States ruining the king?

I think we can add this to the list of evidence of you not being an American.
 

thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
11,084
1,505
126
Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God
King
Country / Patriotism
Family
Work Ethic
Personal Responsibility
Accountability
Respect
Tradition
History
Loyalty
Law
Order
Justice
Nobility
Chivalry
Patriarchy
Humility
Socio-Economic Status
...

I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.

This has gotta be a troll. There's no way anyone is this abysmally stupid. I couldn't have a friend beat on my head with a claw hammer for 10 minutes and end up this stupid. There's no way this can be serious.
 
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Stopsignhank

Platinum Member
Mar 1, 2014
2,338
1,532
136
*Everything* has been desecrated and destroyed. *Everything* dammit!

Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God
King
Country / Patriotism
Family
Work Ethic
Personal Responsibility
Accountability
Respect
Tradition
History
Loyalty
Law
Order
Justice
Nobility
Chivalry
Patriarchy
Humility
Socio-Economic Status
...

I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.


Looks like VG called, they ruined everything. Even the King, My God the liberal judges in the country even ruined the King! Dirty mother fuckers

/S
 
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sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
12,648
201
106
Use your words, not a picture. You are mad at "liberal" judges in the United States ruining the king?

I think we can add this to the list of evidence of you not being an American.

i guess by your definition no is american anymore because there hasnt been a real america in decades. My America is Bad Ass America, not pussy America. Millennial America is a destitute wasteland lacking heart, grit and character. There are no John Waynes or Clint Eastwoods to be found.
My America is the one that rose up and destroyed Nazi Germany and nuked Japan back to the stone age twice in WWii. My America is the america which defeated communism in Korea and fought against it in Vietnam. Not embraced it as our primary means of life. My America is the one that put men on the moon in 1969-1975. My America spent millions of dollars to be able to write with a pen in space, Russia said, fuck it, we will just use a pencil. My America won the cold war and the arms race without ever firing a single shot. My America has every solder as either Bob Ross or Rambo or James Braddock. Every Cop is Bruce Willis or Bubba Smith. My America is an industrial powerhouse. Coal Mines and Steel Mills and Factories Oh My! The ozone layer is our canvas and greenhouse gasses are our colors. My America is the one where Regan fired 11,000 airline workers for an organized sick day. Every day my alarm is AC/DC. Toby Keith and the Angry American for Breakfast. Billy Joel: We Didnt Start the Fire for Lunch. Every Evening ends with Apollo Creed and James Brown singing Living in America, with flags and fireworks. Highway to the Danger Zone. Carlos Mencia is a genius. Ayn Rand is a role model. Toxic masculinity is our idol. Guns are our free speech. Fuck Globalism and the one world government Agenda.
Make America Great Again
Doctor Phil Mic Drop Bitch
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,689
25,000
136
i guess by your definition no is american anymore because there hasnt been a real america in decades. My America is Bad Ass America, not pussy America. Millennial America is a destitute wasteland lacking heart, grit and character. There are no John Waynes or Clint Eastwoods to be found.
My America is the one that rose up and destroyed Nazi Germany and nuked Japan back to the stone age twice in WWii. My America is the america which defeated communism in Korea and fought against it in Vietnam. Not embraced it as our primary means of life. My America is the one that put men on the moon in 1969-1975. My America spent millions of dollars to be able to write with a pen in space, Russia said, fuck it, we will just use a pencil. My America won the cold war and the arms race without ever firing a single shot. My America has every solder as either Bob Ross or Rambo or James Braddock. Every Cop is Bruce Willis or Bubba Smith. My America is an industrial powerhouse. Coal Mines and Steel Mills and Factories Oh My! The ozone layer is our canvas and greenhouse gasses are our colors. My America is the one where Regan fired 11,000 airline workers for an organized sick day. Every day my alarm is AC/DC. Toby Keith and the Angry American for Breakfast. Billy Joel: We Didnt Start the Fire for Lunch. Every Evening ends with Apollo Creed and James Brown singing Living in America, with flags and fireworks. Highway to the Danger Zone. Carlos Mencia is a genius. Ayn Rand is a role model. Toxic masculinity is our idol. Guns are our free speech. Fuck Globalism and the one world government Agenda.
Make America Great Again
Doctor Phil Mic Drop Bitch


Word salad that in no way addresses what the liberal activist judges supposedly did to ruin America.

So either you're the dumbest most ignorant American to ever live (I'm even including incorruptible, you're dumber than him), or a really lame foreign troll. Given your fetish for a King and unfamiliarity with political sub-divisions in the US its probably foreign troll.

Congrats incorruptible you're still the dumbest American here!

The good news is as a lame foreign troll its pretty easy to put you on ignore and not feel bad about it since you're bringing nothing to the discussion in the first place.
 
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Commodus

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2004
9,215
6,818
136
i guess by your definition no is american anymore because there hasnt been a real america in decades. My America is Bad Ass America, not pussy America. Millennial America is a destitute wasteland lacking heart, grit and character. There are no John Waynes or Clint Eastwoods to be found.
My America is the one that rose up and destroyed Nazi Germany and nuked Japan back to the stone age twice in WWii. My America is the america which defeated communism in Korea and fought against it in Vietnam. Not embraced it as our primary means of life. My America is the one that put men on the moon in 1969-1975. My America spent millions of dollars to be able to write with a pen in space, Russia said, fuck it, we will just use a pencil. My America won the cold war and the arms race without ever firing a single shot. My America has every solder as either Bob Ross or Rambo or James Braddock. Every Cop is Bruce Willis or Bubba Smith. My America is an industrial powerhouse. Coal Mines and Steel Mills and Factories Oh My! The ozone layer is our canvas and greenhouse gasses are our colors. My America is the one where Regan fired 11,000 airline workers for an organized sick day. Every day my alarm is AC/DC. Toby Keith and the Angry American for Breakfast. Billy Joel: We Didnt Start the Fire for Lunch. Every Evening ends with Apollo Creed and James Brown singing Living in America, with flags and fireworks. Highway to the Danger Zone. Carlos Mencia is a genius. Ayn Rand is a role model. Toxic masculinity is our idol. Guns are our free speech. Fuck Globalism and the one world government Agenda.
Make America Great Again
Doctor Phil Mic Drop Bitch

Wow, you live in a fantasy land, and a pretty sick one at that. It's this hyper-macho bullshit that never really existed and basically treats women like meat (except Ayn Rand, but that's because her philosophy lets you treat women like meat). It also forgets that "heart, grit and character" means actually giving a damn about making the world a better place, like caring about minorities and the environment.

Thankfully, you will never get what you want.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
37,841
8,305
136
I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.
I have figured it out, like Pink Floyd said, "all in all you're just another brick in the wall."
 
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jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
11,679
1,944
126
i guess by your definition no is american anymore because there hasnt been a real america in decades. My America is Bad Ass America, not pussy America. Millennial America is a destitute wasteland lacking heart, grit and character. There are no John Waynes or Clint Eastwoods to be found.
My America is the one that rose up and destroyed Nazi Germany and nuked Japan back to the stone age twice in WWii. My America is the america which defeated communism in Korea and fought against it in Vietnam. Not embraced it as our primary means of life. My America is the one that put men on the moon in 1969-1975. My America spent millions of dollars to be able to write with a pen in space, Russia said, fuck it, we will just use a pencil. My America won the cold war and the arms race without ever firing a single shot. My America has every solder as either Bob Ross or Rambo or James Braddock. Every Cop is Bruce Willis or Bubba Smith. My America is an industrial powerhouse. Coal Mines and Steel Mills and Factories Oh My! The ozone layer is our canvas and greenhouse gasses are our colors. My America is the one where Regan fired 11,000 airline workers for an organized sick day. Every day my alarm is AC/DC. Toby Keith and the Angry American for Breakfast. Billy Joel: We Didnt Start the Fire for Lunch. Every Evening ends with Apollo Creed and James Brown singing Living in America, with flags and fireworks. Highway to the Danger Zone. Carlos Mencia is a genius. Ayn Rand is a role model. Toxic masculinity is our idol. Guns are our free speech. Fuck Globalism and the one world government Agenda.
Make America Great Again
Doctor Phil Mic Drop Bitch
Sweep the leg! Cobra Kai never die!
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
17,168
60
91
To the Ultra Rich elite NFL players, I say you are payed to play football. No protesting on the job. Pay more attention to entertaining the fans who paid to see a football game. I wont try to to convince people they need to pay some respect to the symbol of their country. But when you are being paid at least try to make the fans happy.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
36,289
28,144
136
To the Ultra Rich elite NFL players, I say you are payed to play football. No protesting on the job. Pay more attention to entertaining the fans who paid to see a football game. I wont try to to convince people they need to pay some respect to the symbol of their country. But when you are being paid at least try to make the fans happy.
If I recall the game starts after the national anthem. Very few people cared until Trump ginned everyone up. "Look I have some black people to yell at"

Wonder if you get as exercised when players pray during the game?
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
11,679
1,944
126
To the Ultra Rich elite NFL players, I say you are payed to play football. No protesting on the job. Pay more attention to entertaining the fans who paid to see a football game. I wont try to to convince people they need to pay some respect to the symbol of their country. But when you are being paid at least try to make the fans happy.
Go hump your flag, dipshit.

Also, it sounds like you're jealous of their wealth. Maybe get a better job if it burns you up so much that these guys make more than you.
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
37,841
8,305
136
To the Ultra Rich elite NFL players, I say you are payed to play football. No protesting on the job. Pay more attention to entertaining the fans who paid to see a football game. I wont try to to convince people they need to pay some respect to the symbol of their country. But when you are being paid at least try to make the fans happy.
Narrow minded view of things, obviously. There's a time and a place for everything, don't protest on my time, goddamnit! It's my money, I worked damn hard to make it, I want things my way, thank you. You owe me what? Entertainment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,415
14,307
136
To the Ultra Rich elite NFL players, I say you are payed to play football. No protesting on the job. Pay more attention to entertaining the fans who paid to see a football game. I wont try to to convince people they need to pay some respect to the symbol of their country. But when you are being paid at least try to make the fans happy.
Why do you hate free speech?
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
37,841
8,305
136
TBH, I find it annoying that the networks make it the story they do. At some point they turn coverage to the players who are kneeling and generally make some asinine comments about that. I'm not offended by the player's actions, they are after all rather genteel. It's the announcers' reactions that bother me and the fact that they jack it all up as if it's some big stir. That people are up in arms about the players not standing at attention with their hands over their hearts just mystifies me. Those people have their own issues. One's patriotism is and should remain a personal matter. Who am I to question another person's patriotism especially when it's demonstrated (albeit symbolically) in a stationary pose?
 

deathBOB

Senior member
Dec 2, 2007
566
228
116
Too many to list, I dont have all eternity to do this:

God
King
Country / Patriotism
Family
Work Ethic
Personal Responsibility
Accountability
Respect
Tradition
History
Loyalty
Law
Order
Justice
Nobility
Chivalry
Patriarchy
Humility
Socio-Economic Status
...

I'm just going to leave this here... everything in the red half is proper and noble, everything in the blue half is self serving and evil. you'll figure it out.


I don’t see the Doritos Locos Taco on that list, so all in all I’m still satisfied.
 

OWR88

Senior member
Oct 27, 2013
231
73
101
To the Ultra Rich elite NFL players, I say you are payed to play football. No protesting on the job. Pay more attention to entertaining the fans who paid to see a football game. I wont try to to convince people they need to pay some respect to the symbol of their country. But when you are being paid at least try to make the fans happy.
Sounds like someone is jealous of the wealthy athletes (specifically the black wealthy athletes, sad but true).
 
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