Can someone please explain the Taylor Swift thing to me

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LTC8K6

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Vanilla Ice? He didn't have even 1/10th the success in total, that Taylor had before she was 18.

Ice Ice Baby was released 24 years ago...

Vanilla Ice was just arrested for burglary and grand theft. He's been arrested several times.

How could anyone mention him in comparison to Swift?

Next you'll probably stoop down to a Milli Vanilli comparison...
 

QueBert

Lifer
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Vanilla Ice? He didn't have even 1/10th the success in total, that Taylor had before she was 18.

Ice Ice Baby was released 24 years ago...

Vanilla Ice was just arrested for burglary and grand theft. He's been arrested several times.

How could anyone mention him in comparison to Swift?

Next you'll probably stoop down to a Milli Vanilli comparison...

I wasn't using him to comparison their success, I used NKOTB & Paula Abdul for that, both sold over 100 million albums. Ice was used as a "fuck I can't believe I use to listen to that trash" in 20 year comparison. Nobody in their right mind will argue her success today, but she won't be played on the old school stations in 20 years.
 
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MongGrel

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You know who was mega big 20 years ago? Paula Abdul, who talks about her any more? Taylor will be "WHO?" in 20 years mark my words. Taylor SUCKS and her time is close to being up. Popular artists don't stand the test of time, good artists do. Prince is still talked about, New Kids On The Block? Not so much. And Taylor's as far away from a Prince as you can possibly get. She'll be another Vanilla Ice artist that people who remember will be embarrassed to admit they listened to 20 years ago.

She's worth $200mil at 25.

You're neffing on ATOT.

I think she won.

I do not think she is going to fade away in the near future like Paula.

She was mostly an overpaid cheerleader, I think Swift will be making more music in the future, for awhile.

She has a very strong following, think of Rush with girl fans, on top of the guys that date or hang out with those girl fans.

Just the way I'm seeing things, I could be wrong.

Madonna all ready seemed impressed, I guess no one will think of her anymore...
 
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jlee

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I wasn't using him to comparison their success, I used NKOTB & Paula Abdul for that, both sold over 100 million albums. Ice was used as a "fuck I can't believe I use to listen to that trash" in 20 year comparison.

lol you have me looking TS up now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift_discography
The singer's third studio album, Speak Now, was released in 2010. The album debuted at number one on the Billboard 200 with sales of 1.047 million, and stayed there for six non-consecutive weeks.[11][12] It was certified four times platinum by the RIAA and produced four singles two of which—"Mine" (2010) and "Back to December" (2010)—peaked within the top ten of the Billboard Hot 100.[5] Swift's fourth studio album, Red, was released in October 2012. The album peaked at number one on the Billboard 200 for seven non-consecutive weeks. It debuted with 1.21 million copies sold in its first week, becoming the 18th album in music history to sell a more than a million albums in a single week.[13] "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" was released as the album's lead single, and it became her first number-one hit on the Billboard Hot 100.[5] Swift again won the Artist of the Year award from Billboard in 2012.

The singer's fifth studio album, 1989 was released in October 2014. It became her fourth consecutive album to peak at number one on Billboard 200 with sales of 1.287 million copies and her third to sell over a million copies. It was the 19th album to sell over a million copies in a single week since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking sales in 1991 and was Swift's highest first week sales. She also became the first artist to have three albums sell a million or more copies in a week.[14] "Shake It Off" was released as the first single and debuted at number one on the Billboard Hot 100.[15] The second single "Blank Space" became Swift's third chart-topper. According to Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), Swift is the best selling digital singles artist in the United States, with cumulative gold and platinum single certifications of over 77 million including downloads and on-demand streaming.[16] To date, she has sold over 27 million albums in the United States.[17] Worldwide, these figures increase to over 40 million albums and over 130 million digital downloads sold.[18]
https://www.yahoo.com/music/taylor-swift-replaces-herself-at-1-103075289246.html
Taylor Swift this week becomes the first female solo artist to replace herself at #1 on the Hot 100.

Swift is the 11th artist to replace itself at #1 since 1955 (which predates the inception of the Hot 100 in 1958). She’s the seventh solo artist to achieve the feat, but just the second solo artist to do it with two records that were entirely solo (no collaborations). The first to do this entirely on his own was Elvis Presley, who scored in October 1956 with the double-listed “Hound Dog”/”Don’t Be Cruel” and “Love Me Tender.”

Hate all you want, but that's fucking impressive. No way around it.
 
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DrDoug

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This generation is so easy to package things up and sell to, that is why.

Spray her with a hose and she is not at all pretty without makeup either. Some women look okay without makeup, she looks terrible and it is CAKED on her.

Every generation has their Pet Rock. :biggrin:
 

Pacfanweb

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Oh I disagree on Lady Gaga.
She had a gimmick first off, and a so so voice second off.
She was definitely no madonna, where madonna always had that incredible voice, and never needed a gimmick, even though madonna went with the gimmick thing, eventually.

However, I will add that Lady Gaga "has" since developed a much better voice.
Everyone knows she took voice lesson or has been taking, and it has made a huge difference in her vocal talents.

And I give Gaga credit for realizing she needed help (voice lessons and training), and that too much gimmick was never going to carry her long term.

Now that Gaga has advanced into that higher level of entertainer with a more powerful talented voice, a much improved vocal ability, and has moved beyond that American Idol class of signer, I think Gaga would be safe with dropping the gimmick.
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Pretty much all of this was wrong.

Gaga ALWAYS had a great voice. She went for the flash first, before she showed us the voice, but it was always there. Her voice is far and away better than Madonna's ever was. Madonna's voice was always just average. She's even acknowledged she didn't have a great voice. (and I loved Madonna when she was in her prime)

Gaga is talented...that didn't just happen after she got famous. She went to school for music. Been playing piano since she was a little kid. She went to NYU for music. She has the skills.

And her doing the Sound of Music just put her at the top of the top. Just a spectacular performance. Madonna could never, ever at any point in her career, have pulled that off.
 

JM Aggie08

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You know who was mega big 20 years ago? Paula Abdul, who talks about her any more? Taylor will be "WHO?" in 20 years mark my words. Taylor SUCKS and her time is close to being up. Popular artists don't stand the test of time, good artists do. Prince is still talked about, New Kids On The Block? Not so much. And Taylor's as far away from a Prince as you can possibly get. She'll be another Vanilla Ice artist that people who remember will be embarrassed to admit they listened to 20 years ago.

Stop being old and bitter.
 

StinkyPinky

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Anyone else notice they're losing touch with popular culture? I'm 35 but barely know any of the "new" stars etc.

I feel that at 35 the world is already passing me by and I'm clueless with the new fashions, fads etc. I still rock around with backwards baseball caps. Time to buy a lawn and start yelling at kids
 

Zargon

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You know who was mega big 20 years ago? Paula Abdul, who talks about her any more? Taylor will be "WHO?" in 20 years mark my words. Taylor SUCKS and her time is close to being up. Popular artists don't stand the test of time, good artists do. Prince is still talked about, New Kids On The Block? Not so much. And Taylor's as far away from a Prince as you can possibly get. She'll be another Vanilla Ice artist that people who remember will be embarrassed to admit they listened to 20 years ago.

how many songs did paula Abdul actually write? the answer is 19

swift has penned 49 songs, some of which she actually wrote for other singers.

shes smaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart.

shes business smart.


shes much more likely to last than many others, because she can/does write. a lot.

and I am *NOT* embarrassed that I listen to Vanilla Ice.....

and no, I don't really listen to Taylor Swift, I don't mind it, a lot of its catchy, my 2 y/o *loves* watching the video for shake it off

it just gets waaaaaaay over played
 

BudAshes

Lifer
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She's actually not human, she's really one of our hamster overlords in disguise. But you didn't hear that from me.
 

MongGrel

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Anyone else notice they're losing touch with popular culture? I'm 35 but barely know any of the "new" stars etc.

I feel that at 35 the world is already passing me by and I'm clueless with the new fashions, fads etc. I still rock around with backwards baseball caps. Time to buy a lawn and start yelling at kids

I'm 53 and still manage to keep up a bit.

On a side note, I have a lawn, and I detest people that wear baseball caps backwards when I see them doing that to be honest...
 
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Zeze

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ITT: Another old farts or typical nerds who simply can't understand how typical pop and mainstream music's success works.
 
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