Can someone who has purple or pink streaks in their hair be taken seriously?

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Yes.

People who voluntarily look a certain "different" way are either trying to rage against the machine, are trying to convey a certain message to others or don't care about their appearance.

I do not want any of those types of people as my doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

Hmm... so my stay at home wife, 34yr old mother of 2 in suburbia, who runs a small crafting business from home is raging against the machine and/or trying to convey a message and/or doesn't care about her appearance? Wow... I had it all wrong.

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

 

[Homerboy]

The message they are attempting to convey is that they like the way it looks.

MotionMan

huh? what? don't you "convey that message" with anything and everything you wear? Do you not convey that message with the most conservative of haircuts or anything? (by "you" I don't mean YOU personally, I mean it as the person wearing/doing the thing in question).

 

[Homerboy]

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: MotionMan
People who voluntarily look a certain "different" way are either trying to rage against the machine, are trying to convey a certain message to others or don't care about their appearance.

I do not want any of those types of people as my doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

Maybe you're just reading too much into things, and they just like the way it looks?

The message they are attempting to convey is that they like the way it looks.

MotionMan

My point is, not everyone is trying to convey a message. Many people dress or groom themselves in a way that makes them happy, with little care as to what others may infer from it.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

The message they are attempting to convey is that they like the way it looks.

MotionMan

huh? what? don't you "convey that message" with anything and everything you wear? Do you not convey that message with the most conservative of haircuts or anything? (by "you" I don't mean YOU personally, I mean it as the person wearing/doing the thing in question).

EXACTLY!!!

MotionMan

 

[sutahz]

Depends on what they're talking about, if you want to hear what they have to say and what their specialty is. How they dress is important too.
Something like a wild color streak in their hair can most definatly make me question their expertise.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

The message they are attempting to convey is that they like the way it looks.

MotionMan

huh? what? don't you "convey that message" with anything and everything you wear? Do you not convey that message with the most conservative of haircuts or anything? (by "you" I don't mean YOU personally, I mean it as the person wearing/doing the thing in question).

EXACTLY!!!

MotionMan

Right... she likes the way it looks. So why would should somebody be pre-judging?
If I see somebody wearing a bow-tie with a slicked comb over should I assume they are a staunch republican conservative with a stick up their ass?

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

 

[Red]

I do form a less-than-best first impression of someone when they have anything unconventional... whether it's way out of the the ordinary styled or dyed hair, clothing, piercing, etc.

I form that impression more-so in the business sense than I do the social sense. In the business world, at least in my experience, conforming is a necessity. Focusing on the issues at hand are much more important than trying to battle with your own "individuality" insecurities by creating a unique or non-conforming appearance in the work place.

To a lesser extent on the social side of things, whenever I see excessive hair dye, piercings, black clothing, chains, etc... I immediately assume (yes, assume) that the individual did not receive enough attention as a child or has a personality trait that demands attention by sporting a non-conventional appearance. I also automatically assume that the person is going to have radical beliefs, whether religious, political or otherwise because they choose to appear in a radical way.

My first impressions are rarely wrong.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

grats for being a judgmental superficial idiot

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

grats for being a judgmental superficial idiot

DING!

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

The message they are attempting to convey is that they like the way it looks.

MotionMan

huh? what? don't you "convey that message" with anything and everything you wear? Do you not convey that message with the most conservative of haircuts or anything? (by "you" I don't mean YOU personally, I mean it as the person wearing/doing the thing in question).

EXACTLY!!!

MotionMan

Right... she likes the way it looks. So why would should somebody be pre-judging?
If I see somebody wearing a bow-tie with a slicked comb over should I assume they are a staunch republican conservative with a stick up their ass?

Pretty much. I do not know a lot of gang members who dress like that.

It is like you seem to think the way a person dresses is completely unrelated to the mind of the person wearing the clothes? In my opinion, I believe the opposite is true (especially if it in purposely "different").

MotionMan

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

So, is she conveying a message, or are you inferring?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

grats for being a judgmental superficial idiot

I'm in that club too. I'll take my defense attorney with a modern power suit and a dash of cologne, manicured hands and sharp hair style. I want someone who the jury takes seriously, I don't need any of them being distracted by the chain connecting his ear ring to his nose ring. Court is formal so he'd remove the chain linked to his nipple rings.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Of course. Appearances mean nothing to anyone but the simple minded, or vain.

Please post a picture of yourself so we can see your lifetime beard, lifetime butt-length hair, rotted teeth and old, dirty torn clothes.

MotionMan

Actually if you look over the course of my life you'd see all but the rotted teeth. Dental issues are a serious health risk. I had hair down to my ass until I joined the navy. Have had a full beard many times in my life, and am in fact seldom cleanly shaved. My annual clothing budget is about $100 so most of my clothes are older, don't fit right, holy, faded, etc.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

grats for being a judgmental superficial idiot

We are not talking about judging someone based on their skin color, height, handicap and other such involuntary things.

We are talking about the voluntary outward appearance of someone that is altered in a way that is clearly out of the norm.

Such issues are a view into the persons mind, IMO.

MotionMan

 

[zerocool84]

Would you go into Home Depot ready to spend 15k and go up to the guy dressed in a nice shirt and slacks and nicely groomed or the guy dressed like a gang member?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Of course. Appearances mean nothing to anyone but the simple minded, or vain.

Please post a picture of yourself so we can see your lifetime beard, lifetime butt-length hair, rotted teeth and old, dirty torn clothes.

MotionMan

Actually if you look over the course of my life you'd see all but the rotted teeth. Dental issues are a serious health risk. I had hair down to my ass until I joined the navy. Have had a full beard many times in my life, and am in fact seldom cleanly shaved. My annual clothing budget is about $100 so most of my clothes are older, don't fit right, holy, faded, etc.

And some of us like to bang hot chicks. Sue us

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

or you can choose to think of it as her way of showing that she is not a conventional person and approaches even the smallest things with a fresh perspective, making things work with a different point of view that may bring fresh ideas to an old, stale standard?

 

[bignateyk]

girls yes, guys no

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

So, is she conveying a message, or are you inferring?

In this case, there really is no difference. If we asked her, do you think she would say that purple hair is not OK? Or that she is not a little bit of a non-conformist?

MotionMan

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Of course. Appearances mean nothing to anyone but the simple minded, or vain.

Please post a picture of yourself so we can see your lifetime beard, lifetime butt-length hair, rotted teeth and old, dirty torn clothes.

MotionMan

Actually if you look over the course of my life you'd see all but the rotted teeth. Dental issues are a serious health risk. I had hair down to my ass until I joined the navy. Have had a full beard many times in my life, and am in fact seldom cleanly shaved. My annual clothing budget is about $100 so most of my clothes are older, don't fit right, holy, faded, etc.

And some of us like to bang hot chicks. Sue us

Done fine in my life, but thanks. Not only that, they weren't superficial bitches, so we could have a relationship outside the bedroom as well.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Would you go into Home Depot ready to spend 15k and go up to the guy dressed in a nice shirt and slacks and nicely groomed or the guy dressed like a gang member?

depends which one worked there i spose...

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Homerboy

It depends. What is it that she does that makes her look different?

MotionMan

She has purple and/or pink in her hair.

And so she is conveying the message that she thinks that purple hair is OK, that she is a non-conformist (if even small one) and I, personally, do not look for those characteristics in a doctor or lawyer.

MotionMan

So, is she conveying a message, or are you inferring?

In this case, there really is no difference. If we asked her, do you think she would say that purple hair is not OK? Or that she is not a little bit of a non-conformist?

MotionMan

The difference is in intent. As I noted above, some people (myself included) don't analyze what message their attire sends out, and simply choose a personal appearance which makes them happy.

If you chose to infer things about them based on this, then you are taking the active role, pigeonholing them.

 

[MotionMan]

Non-conformists will never agree with my opinion. I have come to appreciate that fact.

I am glad that there are people who are different. However, I believe it is naive to think that dressing/looking like a non-conformist will not result in people treating you differently.

MotionMan