Can we live without oil?

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twinrider1

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Before passing judgement, I need to know the OP's age and if English is his first language.
 

crashtech

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E100 will power a standard internal combustion engine just fine, but since it doesn't vaporize well when cold, engines run on pure ethanol/methanol need to be started with something more volatile, usually a shot of gasoline.
 

bigi

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So doing some research lately and it seems that 10 percent of the United states is driving on Ethanol, and almost 60% of Brazil is as well.

Seems like everyone is growing into this fad as of late, and Ethanol might become the clear solution to the world's future oil problem.

Apparently the United Sates is growing more corn than any other country in the world. Since corn is used to create ethanol this seems like the only logical reason for the need of all this corn.

What are some thoughts on this subject? Can we really survive without oil, and what other option will we have for fuel sources once we run out?

LOL, is this a real question?

We did fine for thousands of years w/out oil.

Industrial hemp is much better than plastics especially of the environment, but that is different topic. It was used as food, clothing and house building component until DuPoint pushed their products (Google is your friend here)

Now, with this level of technology we could go solar in 5-10 years if really wanted.
 

tweakmonkey

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Wut. Solar in 5-10 years? Maybe with a complete change of lifestyle, no climate control, and no cars or their infrastructure. Very little new construction, 99% scaled down military etc.

Our current economy and lifestyle is entirely dependent on oil.
 
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desy

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If you look at the population of the earth before we started using oil about 150 yrs ago it was flat at over 1 billion people. Cheap oil allowed us to grow population to what it is today. We couldn't support the population of earth without an as cheap and plentiful energy supply. If we eventually find scalable substitutes maybe, if not a whole lot of people will have to check out
 

calahan

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LOL, is this a real question?

We did fine for thousands of years w/out oil.

Industrial hemp is much better than plastics especially of the environment, but that is different topic. It was used as food, clothing and house building component until DuPoint pushed their products (Google is your friend here)

Now, with this level of technology we could go solar in 5-10 years if really wanted.

Personally I 'd like hemp and all the possibilities that we can take from it. When you say DuPont I just realized how companies who invented Agent Orange are now working on environmental products like hemp. out of guilt?
 

jlee

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Personally I 'd like hemp and all the possibilities that we can take from it. When you say DuPont I just realized how companies who invented Agent Orange are now working on environmental products like hemp. out of guilt?

I'm pretty sure companies don't have guilt.
 

Torn Mind

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LOL, is this a real question?

We did fine for thousands of years w/out oil.

Industrial hemp is much better than plastics especially of the environment, but that is different topic. It was used as food, clothing and house building component until DuPoint pushed their products (Google is your friend here)

Now, with this level of technology we could go solar in 5-10 years if really wanted.

We did "fine" with substitutes, but using lead shower pans and non-plastic pipes material in plumbing meant an eventual failure point while PVC and ABS basically have limitless lifespans.

Besides plumbing and electrical, modern residential houses are mostly made of wood joined by nails and screws. Hemp is not used because $$$ talks for contractors.
 

Torn Mind

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LOL, is this a real question?

We did fine for thousands of years w/out oil.

Industrial hemp is much better than plastics especially of the environment, but that is different topic. It was used as food, clothing and house building component until DuPoint pushed their products (Google is your friend here)

Now, with this level of technology we could go solar in 5-10 years if really wanted.

Furthermore, big machinery, one of which you are probably unaware due to your bourgeois environs, are the underpinnings of the current state of the "modern world" you are spoiled to live in. How can farmers produce enough food? Well, they use big machines that need fuel to operate so plant that shit over many acres.

I have yet to hear of a solar powered tow truck either. Or big trucks in general. The ones in the trucking industry making long ass runs for goods that you might eventually buy from Amazon and your bourgeois mind simply cannot comprehend what it took to get there.
 
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