Can you work under a person like this?

[Vdubchaos]

Hell no

1st rule of management, Micro management doesn't work and only kills the work atmosphere and morale.

If I got a job like this, I would probably keep working but I would dedicate 100% of my time to finding a new job.

Rule of thumb for employment, never quit/walk out until you have a job lined up.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I absolutely hate being micromanaged. I wouldn't last long in that environment.

 

[Exodist]

How much of a lazy fuck do you need to be that your boss feels this is necessary?

ROTFLMAO.......
I seriously LOL for a while when I read this..

There is always 2 sides of a coin. Reading the OP post my first thought was hell no I wouldnt work there, then I started thinking of the lazy shits I worked with while in the Navy and it dawned on me that we did many of those things to keep up with them. Then I read your post and busted out LOL..

 

[KeithTalent]

Could I? Yes. Would I? No.

KT

 

[dave_the_nerd]

No.

 

[lxskllr]

I think folks are missing the point. Sure those are things he shouldn't be doing (tardies, etc) but the fact that he's being so strictly monitored over it makes it feel like he's in elementary school or prison.

OP: Personally, if there were absolutely no other jobs available, I'd stay. Otherwise I'd be out of there in a heartbeat. I'm an adult, not a 5 year old child or hardened criminal that needs that level of supervision.

Pretty much this, but I'd also quietly sabotage the company for my own amusement while I looked for a better job. If some fucker wants a robot, he can pony up the money for a robot. A robot can do almost anything. It just take enough money to make it happen. I'm not that robot.

 

[bigrash]

I'd do it if I needed the money, but it would be on a temp basis.

 

[sjwaste]

I could, but chances are, I wouldn't. Really depends on how hard I up I am for money and if I could find a better job.

 

[BrokenVisage]

no, no, a thousand times no, I'd be planning an exit strategy ASAP

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Yes, but this dept doesn't do any of the calling. The depts that do actually have it much easier.

Ok so this is an actual call center?


FYI.. Most companies treat all of their employees similarly. Call center 'managers' are used to dealing with hourly low wage employees who need this sort of supervision.

If you want to be treated better you will have to work for a better company..

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Sounds like these rules were made for a bunch of spoiled entitlement generation kids.

The employer hired the people themselves. What does it say about YOU when YOU hire someone and then put the overlord treatment on them? It says YOU spend all YOUR time fucking around thus you don't trust the people YOU hired to do any differently. These kinds of views of generations of people are always a reflection of how one feels about theirself.

 

[Deeko]

When I worked for $5.15 / hr at McDonald's we didn't even have rules that strict.

 

[Broheim]

-Your cubicle has windows so he/she can see you at all times
-Must notify someone that you're going to the restroom
-No internet access at all unless it's required to do your work
-3 tardies in a month and your bonus is docked 50% (lunches count too)
-You will be tracked down if you left your desk unannounced for longer than normal
-He/she will walk to your desk instead of calling just so he/she can observe what others are doing
-Must schedule your vacation days at the beginning of the year and your turn is based on seniority.
-You will be written up for any mistake no matter how minor

sounds kind of like the army when you take out all the good things, so yeah I could work in that kind of environment.

 

[OutHouse]

Hell no. I refuse to work someplace where i am treated like a fucking little kid. I am a professional and expect to be treated like one or i walk. Any company that has rules like that has serious HR problems. I have been in Medium security prisons (for my job) and the convicts are treated better than the shit hole the OP posted.

my view is. my employer is just that, my employer, not my overlord.

 

[OutHouse]

When I worked for $5.15 / hr at McDonald's we didn't even have rules that strict.

lol same here. 1984 $5.35 per hour

 

[Baked]

I had to laugh at some of you guys' response on how you don't like to be micromanage and are talking smack about the management. Have you thought for a second that they made up these rules to drive your lazy ass out of the company?

 

[Red Squirrel]

I worked as a L3 server tech for a nazi IT manager who made the work environment like that. I can't believe I toughed it for 3 years. Got out of there when I saw the opportunity though. The last year or so I was getting fed up of putting up with that crap so I was starting to look for ways out. My company had a job opening for the NOC and I applied. Been a year this month, and I don't regret it one bit.

-Your cubicle has windows so he/she can see you at all times - this applied to me
-Must notify someone that you're going to the restroom - not quite, but at one point he wanted us to keep a log of every little thing we do
-No internet access at all unless it's required to do your work - one of the few things that was good. We were the websense admins.
-3 tardies in a month and your bonus is docked 50% (lunches count too) - we always got in before he did
-You will be tracked down if you left your desk unannounced for longer than normal - this applied. The L2 tech got the worse though
-He/she will walk to your desk instead of calling just so he/she can observe what others are doing - yep all the time. We used to call it "Soap boxing" He'd come in and soap box us for an hour or two. Almost every day.
-Must schedule your vacation days at the beginning of the year and your turn is based on seniority. - was an on site contractor, so not his say. If it was his say we would not have any vacation. He'd always be furious when one of us was off. Seniority order for vacation is fairly standard though.
-You will be written up for any mistake no matter how minor - pretty much. It was a big blame game there, and any mistake would be talked about and rediculed for years. I once changed a default printer, that would get brought up in meetings all the time. No matter what we did in what situation, it was always wrong in his eyes.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

I had to laugh at some of you guys' response on how you don't like to be micromanage and are talking smack about the management. Have you thought for a second that they made up these rules to drive your lazy ass out of the company?

Have you ever considered that employees have a life, too? You're not the only one who gets calls from home and needs to handle shit. Grow up. We are all adults and these little grade school rules only proves that YOU don't trust YOURSELF to make GOOD DECISIONS. If you did, you would trust the people YOU hired to do THEIR job.

 

[OutHouse]

I once changed a default printer, that would get brought up in meetings all the time

good grief. that is one sad sad sad IT shop.

 

[Red Squirrel]

good grief. that is one sad sad sad IT shop.

Yeah it was pretty bad. Funny thing is, it was a user request. If I had refused to change it, then I would have got in trouble for not following through with a user request.

That's how it worked there though, no matter what you did you'd probably get in trouble. Had to pick the one that gets you in the least trouble.

When he decided to insource he offered me a job, was actually a good pay, 75k starting and could go up to 85k. More money than I'd ever dream of making. I still refused it. The job for the NOC at my company came along around the same time, and I applied and got it. Glad I did. I make 60k but with overtime, shift differentials, it's probably close to 75k.

The senior tech actually stayed though, I don't know how he manages to deal with that crap every day when he could have easily went out. The guy they hired to replace me found another job, he could not find another replacement, now he's outsourcing that one position to another company. He's gone through so many people.

 

[Franz316]

I'd run for the hills. Employees are are their best when they have some degree of autonomy. If they can't get the job done well and on time with this freedom, then you warn them or let them go. There is no need to be so oppressive. The most productive people know how to get things done without these measures. I would not associate those rules with a healthy work environment.

 

[Cattlegod]

Yes for 350k+ salary with guaranteed raises each year of 20% no matter the performance levels and a 40 hr week

 

[Puppies04]

I'd run for the hills. Employees are are their best when they have some degree of autonomy. If they can't get the job done well and on time with this freedom, then you warn them or let them go. There is no need to be so oppressive. The most productive people know how to get things done without these measures. I would not associate those rules with a healthy work environment.

Sorry but I have to disagree.

I used to work for head office of large company and we had a company call centre the other side of the building with about 100-150 staff per shift. My wife was tasked with data collation in the call centre for a while so I found myself over there every now and again and you could guarantee that if the management gave them an inch they would take a mile.

The office manager only had to step out for 5 minutes and people immediately stopped taking calls/started making personal calls on mobiles while phones were ringing/began eating at their desk which after several hardware failures due to food/drink had been banned.

I was told that the office was a lot more relaxed when it was first set up but after more and more fuckups they ended up having to introduce stupid rules like only 1 person from your desk (they had those large multi sided setups so about 20 people sat at each one and formed a "team") could go to the lavatory at the same time because people were spending more time out the office chatting than they were working. They originally let people choose where they sat but in the end they had to split certain people up as they would be having personal conversations while the phones rang off the hook.

I used to pity the people working there because our office had about 25 staff and it couldn't have been more different. You had a workload and minimum shift hours but 99% of the rest of the job was left up to you to decide. If you took an extra half hour for break they really didn't mind as long as you weren't behind schedule (which nobody ever was). If you got a little too much on your plate one week anybody was happy to help you out and you did the same for everyone else. Both offices originally got paid for sick leave but they ended up rescinding that for the call centre because people were having a stupid amount of days off.

I have no idea what caused such a difference between the 2 offices but I can imagine it was either to do with the age/experience gap (I was the youngest in our office at 24 where as the call centre was mostly 18-22 year olds), the pay gap (they were on about 20% over mimimum wage and a small bonus our salary way about 50% higher +bonus) or the size of the office (maybe they felt it was harder for the managers to watch what they were up to with so many people in there) but short of firing the majority of the 300 staff (both shifts) they were never going to be able to expect any degree of professionalism from that office, they tried firing who they percieved to be the worst offenders but the problem had only got worse over time.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Yes for 350k+ salary with guaranteed raises each year of 20% no matter the performance levels and a 40 hr week

This and only this.

 

[shortylickens]

The Navy taught me I CAN work under pretty much anyone.
Civilian life taught me I do better when I seek out strong teams and thats especially important of the leader.