Canada back to a Balanced Budget.

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KMFJD

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Sounds like Canada then needs to refund those countries whose resources were extracted during colonialism back since Canada, as a settler colony, was the recipient of a huge amount of pillaged resources as a willing member of the British Empire. Those pillaged resources developed Canada.

This is a test to see if Canada has any sense of human decency. Refund any surplus, or increase a refund to go back to a deficit. Canada was developed through the raping of the world.

Do you think Turkey should refund eastern Europe?
 
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Actually it is.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Article 25.

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.


No it's not. The Constitution doesn't authorize it and the UN has no legitimate authority. You can't force someone to treat you.

Just awesome (the rights and the ownage)! :thumbsup:

So you're a moron. Healthcare isn't a right and you're a scumbag for attacking freedom.
 

Zxian

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*grabs popcorn*

This guy is hilarious. Anyone suggesting that we help people is attacking freedom.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
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Actually it is.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Article 25.

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

Actually it's not. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights is not legally binding.
 

l33tFuzzyLogic

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Canadians don't have, nor can even begin to understand, the lower American 50%, who don't pay any tax at all.

America is on an Entitlement downward spiral:


1986 Top 5% pay 43% of all taxes

Today Top 5% pay 60% of all taxes




1986 18% paid no taxes

Today 51% pay no taxes




Top 5% earnings $175,000+ combined household income
 

chucky2

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It is dismaying that had I not self-parked at my job I'd be approaching top 5%. That number just seems way too low...
 

Zxian

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Canadians don't have, nor can even begin to understand, the lower American 50%, who don't pay any tax at all.

And what does that say about the wealth split in the country? The bottom 50% don't pay any taxes because they fall under the minimum tax bracket. That's a result of corporate changes and a "top down" approach to businesses. Maybe if companies started paying reasonable wages, people working at McDonalds and WalMart would start paying taxes.

*shock* Higher minimum wages means more taxes paid? Have you ever thought about the fact that a large middle class is good for the overall financial health of a country?

So you're a pathetic excuse for a human being. You have no right to force me to give you healthcare.

Who's saying that you'd be paying for my healthcare? You have no idea how much I earn.

Don't care. It's still not a right and no reason hard working taxpayers should pay for it.
You seem to lack any sort of understanding about how accessible health care benefits a country as a whole. Simply touting "free market" and "socialism is evil" makes you look ignorant.

Prove your statements. Simply saying "It's better, but it hasn't been done yet" isn't good enough. Otherwise people will start seeing you for a ranting fool. Please explain how a free market (with private insurance companies) is good for your overall health care costs.






*waits for "I don't need to explain myself to you morons*
 

Matt1970

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And what does that say about the wealth split in the country? The bottom 50% don't pay any taxes because they fall under the minimum tax bracket. That's a result of corporate changes and a "top down" approach to businesses. Maybe if companies started paying reasonable wages, people working at McDonalds and WalMart would start paying taxes.

*shock* Higher minimum wages means more taxes paid? Have you ever thought about the fact that a large middle class is good for the overall financial health of a country?

They only fall under that after factoring in every credit and deduction imaginable and continual lowering of their rates to begin with.
 

Northern Lawn

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Today 51% pay no taxes
That's a crazy stat, I can't believe it's true, though I'm always hearing about an extremely high percentage of people on food stamps down there. Still it's hard to believe.

I've never seen a food stamp or have ever heard of anyone talking about it here in Canada. We have soup kitchens for homeless and food places for people that have spent their money on cigarettes and VLTs though.
 

Zxian

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They only fall under that after factoring in every credit and deduction imaginable and continual lowering of their rates to begin with.

How does that change the fundamental problem - a large group of people do not earn enough to reach the minimum tax bracket.

Lowering the bracket to make them pay isn't going to help anyone. First, you're putting more hardship on people who already don't have much, and second, the total amount collected won't be as high as if those people were simply earning more in the first place.
 

Engineer

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Canadians don't have, nor can even begin to understand, the lower American 50%, who don't pay any tax at all.

The bottom 43% of Americans don't pay "Federal Income Tax", down from 47% just a few years ago. Also, the bottom 43% pay payroll taxes, state income taxes, sales taxes, taxes on their utilities, etc. Again, as soon as I can dig it up again, the percentiles are remarkably close to paying the same percent of NATIONAL taxes as their share percent of NATIONAL income, when ALL taxes are considered.

 
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