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JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Perhaps, during your next two weeks off, you will reevaluate your level of compliance with our new cut and paste and run policy. You simply must contribute on a more substantial level, and you have had PLENTY of warning.

AnandTech Moderator

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judasmachine

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Sep 15, 2002
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I'm joining the Chiapas in rural South America. But only when i
i get a draft notice. In the meantime I'm staying put to give you guys hell, and to vote for Hillary for pres.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Jan 20, 2001
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Normally, I would let a Rip thread die but I think he's made a somewhat useful contribution. Although US News & World Report has an oh so slight right of center perspective, the articles are generally well researched and written. The bias is obvious but they are definitely within the margins of "accurate, fair, and balanced." Unfortunately, USN&R takes a nosedive in John Leo's On Society section and Mortimer Zuckerman's Editiorial. I liken it to the WSJ or NYT . . . most of the pages are fine reading but the OpEd tends to stink.

Regardless, Canada doesn't want to be Europe and they definitely don't want to be the USA. They want universal healthcare but they are determined not to mortgage the future in order to keep Grandpa in Viagra. They fully embrace capitalism as an economic engine but do not worship it. As for the gay marriage issue, Leo is the typical partisan hack that merely looks for a scintilla of supporting "evidence" and then ignores a mountain to the contrary. Eight of thirteen provinces have already legalized gay marriage and the last poll I saw revealed a low 40s support gay marriage, while something in the low teens are not opposed to gay marriage. In essence, it's a minority of Canadians that would ban gay marriage.

Leo gives a similar Bushism when it comes to crime. The IVCS isn't necessarily a bad indicator of crime but Leo tells a half-truth when it comes to the IVCS statistics. When you consider the fatal sampling flaw in the comparative survey (US vs Canada), it's quite obvious the IVCS can tell us precious little about how the two countries compare on crime. But people like Leo and Bush rarely let the facts (or dubious statistics) get in the way of an agenda.

Yes, Canadians have waiting lists for certain healthcare services. Guess what? Most Americans have waiting lists for the same services. The difference is that in Canada . . . everyone is guaranteed ACCESS to appropriate healthcare. In America, it's a crapshoot particularly if you are the working poor. In essence, we pay a huge amount more per capita in order to provide appropriate healthcare for only part of the population. Curiously, the only people defending such a system are tools like Bush and Leo that have a minimal understanding of what most Americans face in our healthcare morasse.

It's hard to believe Leo has the gall to criticize Canadian "censorship" when America got all bent out of shape over a two second floppy boob episode . . . merely a few years after a government funded smut expose (Clinto-Lewinsky scandal). I think he's just bitter that Canadians have been less than enthusiastic about proganda operations like FauxNews.

Note Leo didn't even bother referencing education or the environment . . . even using sketchy data . . . it's difficult to construct a story that wouldn't induce hysterical laughter.

If Leo wanted to write something informative he could have stated the obvious . . . Hollywood liberals will NEVER leave the US for Canada b/c being rich in America is the epitome of the good life. Now if you are the poor, working poor, or lower middle class . . . you cannot afford to move to Canada but almost everything would be better for you if you could.
 

Martin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Perhaps, during your next two weeks off, you will reevaluate your level of compliance with our new cut and paste and run policy. You simply must contribute on a more substantial level, and you have had PLENTY of warning.

AnandTech Moderator

:clock:

I'm sure the "Free Ripronin" campaign is just around the corner.
 

catnap1972

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Aug 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Tabb
:beer: for the moderator!!!

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: for the mod!

(just remember--DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE! )
 

Tab

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Sep 15, 2002
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Originally posted by: catnap1972
Originally posted by: Tabb
:beer: for the moderator!!!

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: for the mod!

(just remember--DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE! )

It's a "root beer"

(Not a big fan of alcholol at all..)
 

Michael

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Nov 19, 1999
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BBD,

"8 of 13 provinces"

You lose more than a little credibility when talking about Canada when you don't even know how many provinces there are. As for the article itself, seemed to be a humour piece to me.

Taxes and opportunity attracted me from Canada to the USA and I have a much better opinion of the Canadian medical system than most conservative posters. However, it does work better because of the USA being right next door.

Anandtech Moderators,

You banned Riprorin for a thread that has generated a ton of responses and discussion? where he came in later and responded to a few of the original responses showing it wasn't just a post and run thread? Makes zero sense to me.

Michael
 

charrison

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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It would be nice if the mods could post some clarification on this new comment rule?

1. Is there a length requirement?
2. Should we notify the mods for their approval before posting?
3.What constitutes a "substantial level"
4. Will the new rules be evenly applled?. It seems like similar post?
5. Is 2 weeks vacation standard for violating this rule?

I am sure I am not the only wondering about how to comply with this rule.

Maybe I wont get a vacation for trying to foster some discussion on a blurry topic.
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Michael
BBD,

"8 of 13 provinces"

You lose more than a little credibility when talking about Canada when you don't even know how many provinces there are. As for the article itself, seemed to be a humour piece to me.

Taxes and opportunity attracted me from Canada to the USA and I have a much better opinion of the Canadian medical system than most conservative posters. However, it does work better because of the USA being right next door.

Anandtech Moderators,

You banned Riprorin for a thread that has generated a ton of responses and discussion? where he came in later and responded to a few of the original responses showing it wasn't just a post and run thread? Makes zero sense to me.

Michael

he's gotten multiple warnings in the past few days alone. look at some of his recent threads.
 

Isla

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Sep 12, 2000
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Michael Darling,

If you've been lurking as much as I do (I read but hardly post) you would know that Rip has been having a lot of trouble behaving himself. He needs to step away from the computer for a while to get some perspective. The Mods have done him a favor.... he's been a little too excitable lately.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Michael
BBD,

"8 of 13 provinces"

You lose more than a little credibility when talking about Canada when you don't even know how many provinces there are. As for the article itself, seemed to be a humour piece to me.

Taxes and opportunity attracted me from Canada to the USA and I have a much better opinion of the Canadian medical system than most conservative posters. However, it does work better because of the USA being right next door.

Anandtech Moderators,

You banned Riprorin for a thread that has generated a ton of responses and discussion? where he came in later and responded to a few of the original responses showing it wasn't just a post and run thread? Makes zero sense to me.

Michael

he's gotten multiple warnings in the past few days alone. look at some of his recent threads.

And yet there are many other thread that are similar to his that go untouched. charrison linked to one such thread. There are others. I found 5 in a quick 5 minute search. There needs to be some clarification because the ones rip has had locked did contain comments/opinion from him. I think it's a great rule but there seems to be issues with it being applied consistently.

CsG
 

Michael

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Nov 19, 1999
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Isla,

Cynically, I think that Riprorin was banned due to his stances and was made an example of only because it was an excuse. If it is simply a matter of the thread content, it was different from the other threads where we was "warned" in that he did post more after the article and he did return to the thread to comment.

If he was banned for being "excitable", then there are candidates that need to be dealt with much more than him.

I've been "lurking" much more because I'm not living in the USA right now so am refraining from too many comments on what does not directly concern me. As a Canadian who lived in the USA (and now is in Singapore), I figured I could contribute to this thread. I was surprised that he was banned, went and checked other recent threads from him and saw the mod quotes. This thread actually looked fine compared to the ones where he was warned.

Like I said, cynically I think he was on a list to be banned and this was just the excuse.

Anandtech Mods,

If there is some sort of new policy, please put a sticky in the forum explaining it.

Michael
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: Michael
Isla,

Cynically, I think that Riprorin was banned due to his stances and was made an example of only because it was an excuse. If it is simply a matter of the thread content, it was different from the other threads where we was "warned" in that he did post more after the article and he did return to the thread to comment.

If he was banned for being "excitable", then there are candidates that need to be dealt with much more than him.

I've been "lurking" much more because I'm not living in the USA right now so am refraining from too many comments on what does not directly concern me. As a Canadian who lived in the USA (and now is in Singapore), I figured I could contribute to this thread. I was surprised that he was banned, went and checked other recent threads from him and saw the mod quotes. This thread actually looked fine compared to the ones where he was warned.

Like I said, cynically I think he was on a list to be banned and this was just the excuse.

Anandtech Mods,

If there is some sort of new policy, please put a sticky in the forum explaining it.

Michael

Anand and Staff Programming have a sticky in Forums Issues on Moderation

Topic Title: Self Content Moderation

I think the danger here is having computers themselves taking the human element out of human based content on a human based Community that exists because of Computers.


 

JustAnAverageGuy

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I'm going to have to agree with Michael on this one.

Perhaps Forum Issues would be a better place to address this topic though.
 

Michael

Elite member
Nov 19, 1999
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dmcowen674,

That thread has nothing to do with a cut and paste rule.

JustAnAverageGuy,

Actually, a PM to the mods is better than Forum Issues. Normally, I would do that. I posted in this thread for a reason - this is bad enough (in my opinion) for me to publically question the mods. This is the third time or fourth time I've done so in in all the time I've been posting here. Normally I support them even if I disagree (being a law and order conservative). This isn't as bad as banning the word gay (my one and only locked post was a response to that), but I don't like it enough to publically question the decision.

Michael
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Michael
BBD,

"8 of 13 provinces"

You lose more than a little credibility when talking about Canada when you don't even know how many provinces there are. As for the article itself, seemed to be a humour piece to me.

Taxes and opportunity attracted me from Canada to the USA and I have a much better opinion of the Canadian medical system than most conservative posters. However, it does work better because of the USA being right next door.

Anandtech Moderators,

You banned Riprorin for a thread that has generated a ton of responses and discussion? where he came in later and responded to a few of the original responses showing it wasn't just a post and run thread? Makes zero sense to me.

Michael

he's gotten multiple warnings in the past few days alone. look at some of his recent threads.

And yet there are many other thread that are similar to his that go untouched. charrison linked to one such thread. There are others. I found 5 in a quick 5 minute search. There needs to be some clarification because the ones rip has had locked did contain comments/opinion from him. I think it's a great rule but there seems to be issues with it being applied consistently.

CsG
The poster that was linked to doen't have quite the same record of copying, pasting, and running, although said poster could clearly use some work in that category.
 

WiseOldDude

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Feb 13, 2005
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bottom line is that with dumbya in the whitehouse there is no place on the planet that is safe from the reckless agenda of this fool
 

OffTopic1

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Feb 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Martin
Don't you think that you've posted enough of your "Canadians are really just like us conservative evangelical nutjobs but they are oppressed by the ultra libral ruling elites" bullshit?

This particular piece of tripe sounds like some alcoholic wife beater trying to convince his fleeing wife to stay.


I lived there four years and it sounds pretty on point to me. You only have to see a couple hundred Canadians at one Mall sale to understand why they aren't allowed to have guns. They drive with their headlights on during the day, by law. That must say something about either how well they see or how well they drive. Over and above that, I loved the four years there and thought Canadians were great people. Gotta love a place where you can get a good grilled brat on the street any day.
It is not a law to drive with lights on durring the day time, however most people have their lights on for safety reason.

Daytime Running Light - An Extra Margin of Safety
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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feh rip would post just to antagonize people here.
He never even stated a opinion except what would be flamebait and never actually tried to discuss anything.
He would be gone for a few days get upset at what someone would say and dump P&N with endless flamebait threads.
The conservative posters here must be desperate to back him up he NEVER contributed any insight into any of your causes.
Just there to be the center of negative attention IMO. So long to another spammer and a failure of a troll.
(Now can we please have some real debate this place has become a major yawn)
 
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