I can only hope that they have him live with that Judge and Doctor and their families on a rotating basis for the next 10 years.I would hope the doctors, judge, mental health advocates and anyone else involved with his complete release would have to have seen the photos of the severed head and cannibalized body on the bloody floor of that bus before recommending that. I don't care how mentally ill he was at the time that shouldn't absolve him of responsibility for this. This isn't just some garden variety street crazy muttering to himself.
Yeah, it would be truly horrible if murdering, beheading, and cannibalizing an innocent human were allowed to ruin this guy's life.Good. People with mental health issues should find this encouraging and will hopefully be more inclined to get treatment rather than trying to fight their illness secretly until something terrible happens.
It isn't a hopeless situation to have mental illness.
He was a schizophrenic. This is nothing like someone who is depressed or bipolar. Severe schizophrenics see and hear things that are not occurring. I can't believe he was released without mandatory lifetime monitoring to make sure he is taking his medication. Particularly as there is obviously solid evidence he is dangerous without treatment. It's also been not even 10 years. Mentally ill or not, justice is not just rehabilitation, but also protection for the populace.
We generally don't lock people up long enough for violent crimes here Imo. I don't support capital punishment, it's simple bloodlust, more expensive than lifetime incarceration and I would argue an easier punishment than life in prison. But I'd like to see more violent offenders here receiving longer sentences and natural life sentences for murderers.
IMO, if someone snuck a massive dose of LSD and PCP into you, and you killed someone under the influence, you should never be in public again.
This only applies to you, not to everyone, since you have the bad views.
Nevermind you aren't dangerous when the cause is removed. You didn't care about that with this guy.
My grandmother was schizophrenic and spent the entirety of her life in an institution after chasing my granddad with an axe. Lifetime commitments to mental institutions appear to be an artifact of the past. Mental illness is not curable. It is a physical anomaly with the brain. At best, the effects of it can be controlled to some degree with drugs/care.
It is a mistake to let this fellow out. He would do much better in a controlled environment with proper medical care. I wonder if this was a financial decision by the state. It doesn't make much sense in other context.
It's not a financial decision - he has to be accompanied by a nurse and an officer and can only go on day walks into town. It's just a left wing belief that he's the real victim because of his mental illness. Eventually he'll be deemed safe enough to leave for good. And of course, after that he's one bad decision away from stopping his meds and becoming a murderous cannibal again. But unless and until that happens, everyone can feel good about themselves.My grandmother was schizophrenic and spent the entirety of her life in an institution after chasing my granddad with an axe. Lifetime commitments to mental institutions appear to be an artifact of the past. Mental illness is not curable. It is a physical anomaly with the brain. At best, the effects of it can be controlled to some degree with drugs/care.
It is a mistake to let this fellow out. He would do much better in a controlled environment with proper medical care. I wonder if this was a financial decision by the state. It doesn't make much sense in other context.
That's the problem right there. This isn't about this guy. This is about all the people dealing with lower level stuff who can be led to believe that their situation is hopeless and that there's no amount of treatment available that could help them.Yeah, it would be truly horrible if murdering, beheading, and cannibalizing an innocent human were allowed to ruin this guy's life.
Quick, someone find a tape of this "person" talking about grabbing pussy or cutting taxes so lefties will decide he needs to be locked up.
We (and Canaduh) really need a "guilty but legally insane" ruling that punishes someone for taking a life even if the person guilty of murdering, beheading, and cannibalizing an innocent human turns out to be less than sane.
I think the human experience is primarily defined by ability to reason. Those with only physical disabilities are no less capable in that regard.
Domestic murder is one of the most common types so it was the first to come to mind. I didn't discover that Netflix removed Columbo until yesterday during my planned dinner, so I may have gone with a miffed business partner or political blackmail as motives for murder instead had I noticed this thread earlier. I think you are conflating morality and rationality; the former trait is common in those possessing the latter because society's rules are molded by it, but that doesn't make them the same. Maybe terrorism would be an easier point to understand? Timothy McVeigh was perfectly rational.
ra·tion·al
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adjective
adjective: rational
1.
based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
"I'm sure there's a perfectly rational explanation"
synonyms: logical, reasoned, sensible, reasonable, cogent, intelligent, judicious, shrewd, common-sense, commonsensical, sound, prudent;
Holy stupid WTF batman. The guy just randomly kills and beheads someone, and 5 years later he's just out wandering the streets for the next unsuspecting victim? That's just insane.
Ultimately what we're talking about here is believing that the mental health care professionals involved in advocating for Mr. Li's (restricted) freedom have done their job properly - better than all of us on the Internet who've never met the guy but have read an article on what he did 5 years ago do.
Make no mistake - that's what's happening here. You've all decided you know what the outcome should be for someone you've never met and never will meet, and are disregarding what the people who have and are trained in this area are saying. Yes, they make mistakes and perhaps Mr. Li will harm someone else. It comes down to whether you trust your nation's institutions and the people who work in them. Or if you just prefer making off-the-cuff decisions for the world from behind your computer.
Is it logical, reasonable, sensible, cogent, intelligent, judicious, shrewd, commonsensical, sound or prudent to blow up a building full of people you don't even know?
Ultimately what we're talking about here is believing that the mental health care professionals involved in advocating for Mr. Li's (restricted) freedom have done their job properly - better than all of us on the Internet who've never met the guy but have read an article on what he did 5 years ago do.
Make no mistake - that's what's happening here. You've all decided you know what the outcome should be for someone you've never met and never will meet, and are disregarding what the people who have and are trained in this area are saying. Yes, they make mistakes and perhaps Mr. Li will harm someone else. It comes down to whether you trust your nation's institutions and the people who work in them. Or if you just prefer making off-the-cuff decisions for the world from behind your computer.
Easy: I've had you certified mentally unstable. I will now take away your freedoms and rights.What does society gain by freeing this guy other than warm fuzzies?
Well we all know what the outcome is for the innocent guy who was killed, beheaded and eaten. He's still dead. I didn't need to have met the person (or visit his grave) to know that.Make no mistake - that's what's happening here. You've all decided you know what the outcome should be for someone you've never met and never will meet, and are disregarding what the people who have and are trained in this area are saying.
I get that you're stupid. The day HB murders and eats someone, then you'll have a point. Until then, your example is beyond stupid.Easy: I've had you certified mentally unstable. I will now take away your freedoms and rights.
Still confused? How about revisiting the many who suggest that a given political ideology is a mental illness. Get it yet?