Canadian trucker protest

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KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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oh yeah, even Musk got into it posting a Trudeau is Hitler meme until he deleted it....
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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You pretend there needs to be equivalency. Some sort of objective measure. Come now, you should know better. There is simply the "enemy" and a decision to use a certain amount of aggression and force against "them". Whatever transgression necessitates the use of said force, is in the eye of the beholder. It is not your standards that will be applied, but "theirs".

As for comparisons. You do not need to occupy a street if you loot and burn buildings. The damage there is long lasting, and the actions much more violent and dangerous. But you are correct, riots do not need to physically blockade streets for as long. Except for Seattle's autonomous zone, that occupation lasted for some time.

My caution is knowing that one good turn deserves another. If people on the streets are to be labeled "terrorist", it will not be long before they agree in ways you never wanted.
I agree I thought CHAD was stupid in Seattle and shouldn't have been allowed to set up. It's boundaries were much smaller, though. One city block IIRC.

I don't believe I ever used the word Terrorist about these truckers, but I do think the police should've cleared out their illegal encampments day 1 or 2, not 22+. I also disagree with rioting and have no problems with the police stopping that illegal activity either, especially if they didn't incite the riot to begin with.

Just because the damage these truckers have done isn't as visible as a burning QuikTrip, doesn't mean it wasn't much more severe than the rioting and looting you're talking about. It's like bitching about petty theft's economic impact while ignoring wage theft's economic impact.
 

Artorias

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Feb 8, 2014
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oh yeah, even Musk got into it posting a Trudeau is Hitler meme until he deleted it....

What a fucking prick.

The police should have come in at least week earlier.

If ya'll got so much free time and money to not work and protest, then maybe just go the fuck back home, reflect on the good life you have and sit out the pandemic.

We Canadians do not support your bullshit.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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looks like a steady stream of arrests now, this might take a few days, they had to take part of their snow wall down to let some truckers leave
 

Number1

Diamond Member
Feb 24, 2006
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I have great respect for Musk,s technical accomplishment. However he can be quite excentrick. My message to him: F right off.
 
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Number1

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Protestors trying to disarm the police and they are not shooting them? Why?
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Nobody should be ok with the government at this point no matter which side they're on. The fact that the government can just freeze your money, arrest you, and send in military police if they don't agree with your views is a very dangerous thing that should not be accepted. That is the sort of thing I would expect in China and it's sad to see that it's happening here too.

Trudeau has literally said it himself that he admires China's dictatorship, and he is acting exactly like a dictator right now with his ridiculous emergency order. He refuses to talk or reason with anyone and has even walked out of parliament at least twice.

The police are the ones causing violence at the protest, including trampling people with their horses. Sickening to watch this happening in my own country.


Instead of just dropping the damn mandates and getting the country back to normal Trudeau wants to play hard ball and work against the people and harm them, and some people are chearing it on, it's sickening. We are literally watching the rise of a dictatorship. This is how it happens. They use the media to lie and gaslight people and manipulate them, and then slowly add more and more rules that seem small, but all add up over time, and squash anyone that tries to fight it.

Anyone who has watched live streams and 3rd party media from people who are actually there would know the protest has been peaceful and does not warrant this amount of force.

The convoy did get some progress done though, as lot of provinces have actually did a 180 and decided to drop mandates. Even Ontario and Quebec. Quebec had some of the most draconian rules and even they decided to listen.

The future of this country seems grim though, really don't like where things are headed especially knowing they can just freeze your bank accounts if they don't agree with you or how you spend your money, and the idea of digital ID is still looping in the air. Even though some provinces have dropped it I have a bad feeling it's coming at the national level. It's insane that anyone would be ok with that. It's yet even more surveillance and control.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Nobody should be ok with the government at this point no matter which side they're on. The fact that the government can just freeze your money, arrest you, and send in military police if they don't agree with your views is a very dangerous thing that should not be accepted. That is the sort of thing I would expect in China and it's sad to see that it's happening here too.

Trudeau has literally said it himself that he admires China's dictatorship, and he is acting exactly like a dictator right now with his ridiculous emergency order. He refuses to talk or reason with anyone and has even walked out of parliament at least twice.

The police are the ones causing violence at the protest, including trampling people with their horses. Sickening to watch this happening in my own country.


Instead of just dropping the damn mandates and getting the country back to normal Trudeau wants to play hard ball and work against the people and harm them, and some people are chearing it on, it's sickening. We are literally watching the rise of a dictatorship. This is how it happens. They use the media to lie and gaslight people and manipulate them, and then slowly add more and more rules that seem small, but all add up over time, and squash anyone that tries to fight it.

Anyone who has watched live streams and 3rd party media from people who are actually there would know the protest has been peaceful and does not warrant this amount of force.

The convoy did get some progress done though, as lot of provinces have actually did a 180 and decided to drop mandates. Even Ontario and Quebec. Quebec had some of the most draconian rules and even they decided to listen.

The future of this country seems grim though, really don't like where things are headed especially knowing they can just freeze your bank accounts if they don't agree with you or how you spend your money, and the idea of digital ID is still looping in the air. Even though some provinces have dropped it I have a bad feeling it's coming at the national level. It's insane that anyone would be ok with that. It's yet even more surveillance and control.
So to be clear you think people should be able to blockade city streets for weeks without consequence?
 

kt

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Apr 1, 2000
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Nobody should be ok with the government at this point no matter which side they're on. The fact that the government can just freeze your money, arrest you, and send in military police if they don't agree with your views is a very dangerous thing that should not be accepted. That is the sort of thing I would expect in China and it's sad to see that it's happening here too.

Trudeau has literally said it himself that he admires China's dictatorship, and he is acting exactly like a dictator right now with his ridiculous emergency order. He refuses to talk or reason with anyone and has even walked out of parliament at least twice.

The police are the ones causing violence at the protest, including trampling people with their horses. Sickening to watch this happening in my own country.


Instead of just dropping the damn mandates and getting the country back to normal Trudeau wants to play hard ball and work against the people and harm them, and some people are chearing it on, it's sickening. We are literally watching the rise of a dictatorship. This is how it happens. They use the media to lie and gaslight people and manipulate them, and then slowly add more and more rules that seem small, but all add up over time, and squash anyone that tries to fight it.

Anyone who has watched live streams and 3rd party media from people who are actually there would know the protest has been peaceful and does not warrant this amount of force.

The convoy did get some progress done though, as lot of provinces have actually did a 180 and decided to drop mandates. Even Ontario and Quebec. Quebec had some of the most draconian rules and even they decided to listen.

The future of this country seems grim though, really don't like where things are headed especially knowing they can just freeze your bank accounts if they don't agree with you or how you spend your money, and the idea of digital ID is still looping in the air. Even though some provinces have dropped it I have a bad feeling it's coming at the national level. It's insane that anyone would be ok with that. It's yet even more surveillance and control.
Dude, you're supposed to collect nuts. Not become one.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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oh yeah, even Musk got into it posting a Trudeau is Hitler meme until he deleted it....

The Auschwitz Memorial called him out. At least he refrained from getting into an internet fight with them, unlike MTG.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,590
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126
www.anyf.ca
So to be clear you think people should be able to blockade city streets for weeks without consequence?

It's in the charter. Peaceful protest. It would last less long if government simply talked to them and reasoned with them.

Dude, you're supposed to collect nuts. Not become one.

The people supporting the shit the government is doing are the ones that are nuts.

Seriously how the fuck can you support this?


Use any excuse you want as to what laws the truckers broke, the matter of the fact is they should not have needed to be there in first place if the government got rid of the god mandates that are harming everyone and have no reason to exist. Stop supporting government control. The government needs to leave people alone FFS. It's not that hard of an ask.

What exactly do you people who are pro government control get out of it? Absolutely nothing.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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It's in the charter. Peaceful protest. It would last less long if government simply talked to them and reasoned with them.



The people supporting the shit the government is doing are the ones that are nuts.

Seriously how the fuck can you support this?


Use any excuse you want as to what laws the truckers broke, the matter of the fact is they should not have needed to be there in first place if the government got rid of the god mandates that are harming everyone and have no reason to exist. Stop supporting government control. The government needs to leave people alone FFS. It's not that hard of an ask.

What exactly do you people who are pro government control get out of it? Absolutely nothing.
So you’re making up laws. Lol.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
71,747
31,707
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It's in the charter. Peaceful protest. It would last less long if government simply talked to them and reasoned with them.



The people supporting the shit the government is doing are the ones that are nuts.

Seriously how the fuck can you support this?


Use any excuse you want as to what laws the truckers broke, the matter of the fact is they should not have needed to be there in first place if the government got rid of the god mandates that are harming everyone and have no reason to exist. Stop supporting government control. The government needs to leave people alone FFS. It's not that hard of an ask.

What exactly do you people who are pro government control get out of it? Absolutely nothing.
Why did the crooks bring their children and pets to an insurrection? Seems like totally shitty thing to do.

"Sure I robbed the bank but you can't put me in jail; I got a dog to feed."
 
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eelw

Lifer
Dec 4, 1999
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if the government got rid of the god mandates that are harming everyone and have no reason to exist. Stop supporting government control. The government needs to leave people alone FFS. It's not that hard of an ask.
Look at Denmark with their huge case explosion after lifting all mandates. Besides, Alberta is going to be our guinea pig when that time comes
 
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