Canadian trucker protest

Page 13 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,597
6,145
126
Nobody should be ok with the government at this point no matter which side they're on. The fact that the government can just freeze your money, arrest you, and send in military police if they don't agree with your views is a very dangerous thing that should not be accepted. That is the sort of thing I would expect in China and it's sad to see that it's happening here too.

Trudeau has literally said it himself that he admires China's dictatorship, and he is acting exactly like a dictator right now with his ridiculous emergency order. He refuses to talk or reason with anyone and has even walked out of parliament at least twice.

The police are the ones causing violence at the protest, including trampling people with their horses. Sickening to watch this happening in my own country.


Instead of just dropping the damn mandates and getting the country back to normal Trudeau wants to play hard ball and work against the people and harm them, and some people are chearing it on, it's sickening. We are literally watching the rise of a dictatorship. This is how it happens. They use the media to lie and gaslight people and manipulate them, and then slowly add more and more rules that seem small, but all add up over time, and squash anyone that tries to fight it.

Anyone who has watched live streams and 3rd party media from people who are actually there would know the protest has been peaceful and does not warrant this amount of force.

The convoy did get some progress done though, as lot of provinces have actually did a 180 and decided to drop mandates. Even Ontario and Quebec. Quebec had some of the most draconian rules and even they decided to listen.

The future of this country seems grim though, really don't like where things are headed especially knowing they can just freeze your bank accounts if they don't agree with you or how you spend your money, and the idea of digital ID is still looping in the air. Even though some provinces have dropped it I have a bad feeling it's coming at the national level. It's insane that anyone would be ok with that. It's yet even more surveillance and control.

Those powers are Good. They gave the Government more Peaceful means to address a situation that needed to end. No other Protest has been treated as hands off at this one and they have had 3 weeks to go home. Any other Protest would have been broken up 3 weeks ago. If this is Chinese Communism(not even fucking close), sign me up.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,598
13,254
126
www.anyf.ca
Look at Denmark with their huge case explosion after lifting all mandates. Besides, Alberta is going to be our guinea pig when that time comes

At least they did the right thing and went back to normal, that's what counts. People can take their health in their own hands and live normally again. That's how it should be.
 
Reactions: hal2kilo

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,597
6,145
126
At least they did the right thing and went back to normal, that's what counts. People can take their health in their own hands and live normally again. That's how it should be.

Covid doesn't care. All through this pandemic Restrictions tightened and they loosened as was necessary. That is the only way it should be until some time has shown they are not needed.
 

PowerEngineer

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2001
3,583
756
136
At least they did the right thing and went back to normal, that's what counts. People can take their health in their own hands and live normally again. That's how it should be.

...and live normally until they (or their family or neighbors) die from COVID. Is that really how it should be? 🙄

The "Red" part of your name is really taking over in a Trumpian "red state" way.

While I agree that individuals have rights, individuals also have obligations to the people around them (i.e. to society). Getting a vaccine (that is proven to be safe and effective) surely isn't too much to ask. It is a sad reflection on our fellow citizens that government mandates are even necessary. And made even worse by the idiots (truckers and others) who somehow decide that this is a "freedom" issue.
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
9,223
125
106
At least they did the right thing and went back to normal, that's what counts. People can take their health in their own hands and live normally again. That's how it should be.
Why do you think Ford is taking so long to lift restrictions? Don't you think he knows it's his base that is crying for this? It's because he knows it would be disastrous and he would find himself crying to Trudeau for help once our hospitals are overwhelmed.
 

Iron Woode

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 10, 1999
31,140
12,655
136
Use any excuse you want as to what laws the truckers broke, the matter of the fact is they should not have needed to be there in first place if the government got rid of the god mandates that are harming everyone and have no reason to exist. Stop supporting government control. The government needs to leave people alone FFS. It's not that hard of an ask.

The mandates will be removed as things improve. Doing so carefully and following real science is the logical way. Rather than demanding your way, how about being patient. It's not about individuals. It's about all of us doing what is right not what is convenient.
 

eelw

Lifer
Dec 4, 1999
10,151
5,255
136
At least they did the right thing and went back to normal, that's what counts. People can take their health in their own hands and live normally again. That's how it should be.
If people were responsible, yeah these mandates shouldn’t be required. But jackasses in a lockdown Toronto would just cross Steeles Avenue into a different region just to get a hair cut. Like with how bad SARS was here, we of all places should have taken voluntary quarantine to heed with covid.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
15,613
11,254
136
Nobody should be ok with the government at this point no matter which side they're on. The fact that the government can just freeze your money, arrest you, and send in military police if they don't agree with your views is a very dangerous thing that should not be accepted. That is the sort of thing I would expect in China and it's sad to see that it's happening here too.

Trudeau has literally said it himself that he admires China's dictatorship, and he is acting exactly like a dictator right now with his ridiculous emergency order. He refuses to talk or reason with anyone and has even walked out of parliament at least twice.

The police are the ones causing violence at the protest, including trampling people with their horses. Sickening to watch this happening in my own country.


Instead of just dropping the damn mandates and getting the country back to normal Trudeau wants to play hard ball and work against the people and harm them, and some people are chearing it on, it's sickening. We are literally watching the rise of a dictatorship. This is how it happens. They use the media to lie and gaslight people and manipulate them, and then slowly add more and more rules that seem small, but all add up over time, and squash anyone that tries to fight it.

Anyone who has watched live streams and 3rd party media from people who are actually there would know the protest has been peaceful and does not warrant this amount of force.

The convoy did get some progress done though, as lot of provinces have actually did a 180 and decided to drop mandates. Even Ontario and Quebec. Quebec had some of the most draconian rules and even they decided to listen.

The future of this country seems grim though, really don't like where things are headed especially knowing they can just freeze your bank accounts if they don't agree with you or how you spend your money, and the idea of digital ID is still looping in the air. Even though some provinces have dropped it I have a bad feeling it's coming at the national level. It's insane that anyone would be ok with that. It's yet even more surveillance and control.
LOL. This is the most pansy clearing of illegal protesters I've ever seen and it took 3 weeks. People in the US get shot with rubber bullets for breaking curfew, can't imagine what would happen if a bunch of black people blocked up the streets for three weeks, but I promise it would involve a lot more gas, rubber bullets, and sticks.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,598
13,254
126
www.anyf.ca
If people were responsible, yeah these mandates shouldn’t be required. But jackasses in a lockdown Toronto would just cross Steeles Avenue into a different region just to get a hair cut. Like with how bad SARS was here, we of all places should have taken voluntary quarantine to heed with covid.

God forbid someone tries to do a normal life thing like get a haircut! Arrest him! But it's ok to have 70,000 people in a stadium or have the Olympics, or shoot movies, or have many other activities that generate tons of money for megacorporations. Yeah, this is about a virus alright. A virus that has been gone for about a year and has mutated into a cold. A virus that has a vaccine in which 90% of people have. But this is still somehow about a virus. There's zero reason for any of these mandates and restrictions at this point in time. It was suppose to be 2 weeks to flatten the curve, not a "new normal" forever like what they are pushing for. This is about fullfilling the great reset and even Trudeau admitted to that in a speech. This is what we are fighting against.

This is the sort of violence going on at the protest, and it's because of police:



Yes, that's a person on a mobility scooter that was trampled by police.


Before the police showed up this is the sort of stuff that was happening:



So much racism! They should have at least invited Blackface Trudeau to be the goalie.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
15,613
11,254
136
God forbid someone tries to do a normal life thing like get a haircut! Arrest him! But it's ok to have 70,000 people in a stadium or have the Olympics, or shoot movies, or have many other activities that generate tons of money for megacorporations. Yeah, this is about a virus alright. A virus that has been gone for about a year and has mutated into a cold. A virus that has a vaccine in which 90% of people have. But this is still somehow about a virus. There's zero reason for any of these mandates and restrictions at this point in time. It was suppose to be 2 weeks to flatten the curve, not a "new normal" forever like what they are pushing for. This is about fullfilling the great reset and even Trudeau admitted to that in a speech. This is what we are fighting against.

This is the sort of violence going on at the protest, and it's because of police:



Yes, that's a person on a mobility scooter that was trampled by police.


Before the police showed up this is the sort of stuff that was happening:



So much racism! They should have at least invited Blackface Trudeau to be the goalie.
Well if you don't want to get hurt by riot police, maybe you should do what they tell you to do.

Love how you post pictures of them playing hockey and not the videos of them harassing kids at schools or dancing on war memorials. I'm also guessing you'd have no problem if I blocked the road outside your house for three weeks honking all night, right?
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,598
13,254
126
www.anyf.ca
Well if you don't want to get hurt by riot police, maybe you should do what they tell you to do.

Love how you post pictures of them playing hockey and not the videos of them harassing kids at schools or dancing on war memorials. I'm also guessing you'd have no problem if I blocked the road outside your house for three weeks honking all night, right?

The dancing on war memorial was a very short one time thing that was condemned by everyone there. You forget to mention that after it happened they put flowers on it, and shoveled all around it.



Veterans also volunteered to guard it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW7nLrD25S8

Can't find anything about them harassing kids, but did find this class supporting them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1fPGKwzIHU



Honestly if people were in front of my house for a protest and I stood behind the cause I would be 100% for them and maybe even offer them stuff like coffee or something or even join.

I would maybe get annoyed at the horns and noise after a while but sometimes freedom is not free. I'd get ear plugs. I rather hear that than gun shots and explosions or have my house taken away by the government as they start implementing the great reset.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
15,613
11,254
136
Honestly if people were in front of my house for a protest and I stood behind the cause I would be 100% for them and maybe even offer them stuff like coffee or something or even join.


Well I am glad you admit you only support illegal protests if you agree with the cause, lol. It's all about Freedom all right.
 

Braznor

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2005
4,767
435
126
I'd rather the police do their jobs. But apparently they have no interest in enforcing laws against white conservatives.

Feel free to link to any similar protests that have shut down borders and cities for weeks. They also aren't just blocking one or two streets.
Justin Trudeau supported protesters blocking roads and highways of Delhi for an entire year. But imposed draconian rules when it comes to protests in his own country. How hypocritical of him.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,598
13,254
126
www.anyf.ca
Well I am glad you admit you only support illegal protests if you agree with the cause, lol. It's all about Freedom all right.

Why would I support a protest that I don't agree with the cause? Why are you even clinging on that? Makes no sense. That seems to be a normal thing. Most of you don't seem to support this protest since you don't agree with the cause so what difference does it make? But 99% of the time protests are usually for a good reason, so I can't think of one that has happened where I did not support it. Even the pipeline protests I usually agree with, because they're always trying to build these pipelines on sacred lands instead of going around. Government and corporations don't try to reason with anyone they just want to have it their way.

And again, it's not illegal. https://ccla.org/our-work/fundamental-freedoms/right-to-protest/

But I would not put it past the government to pass some legislation to make it illegal because they've been wiping their asses with the charter for a while now. That's basically what this emergency order is about.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
15,613
11,254
136
Why would I support a protest that I don't agree with the cause? Why are you even clinging on that? Makes no sense. That seems to be a normal thing. Most of you don't seem to support this protest since you don't agree with the cause so what difference does it make? But 99% of the time protests are usually for a good reason, so I can't think of one that has happened where I did not support it. Even the pipeline protests I usually agree with, because they're always trying to build these pipelines on sacred lands instead of going around. Government and corporations don't try to reason with anyone they just want to have it their way.

And again, it's not illegal. https://ccla.org/our-work/fundamental-freedoms/right-to-protest/

But I would not put it past the government to pass some legislation to make it illegal because they've been wiping their asses with the charter for a while now. That's basically what this emergency order is about.
So if a bunch of pro-vaccine mandate truckers blocked the roads around your house for three weeks, would you be for or against the police breaking it up?
 
Last edited:

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,598
13,254
126
www.anyf.ca
So if a bunch of pro-vaccine mandate truckers blocked the roads around your house for three weeks, would be be for or against the police breaking it up?

I'd still be against it, they still have the right to protest. I'm a reasonable person, I don't wish to harm people just because I don't agree with their views.

But let's put it this way, if such a protest happened I don't think it would get as much support as this one did. There's a bunch of pro mandaters that tried to start a gofundme and they got about $1,000 in donations last I checked. It might be higher now, I don't remember the link or what it was called so can't find it. Most of the donations were people donating 5 bucks so they can leave a comment to troll them. The pro mandate people seem very vocal but they are not as popular as they think. Most of us actually want to go back to normal and that includes vaccinated people like me so we will support the truckers 100% for what they are fighting for.
 

PowerEngineer

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2001
3,583
756
136
Oh my! The "Great Reset"... Red Squirrel has been lost down the conspiracy rabbit hole. 🚽

And you should know that nearly half the money donated to support your "freedom fighting" truckers has come from south of your borders. It's not enough for our crazies to drag down the United States; they want to pull down your Canada too.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,598
13,254
126
www.anyf.ca
It's not a conspiracy theory, they are not even trying to hide it anymore. The info is out there, this is not something I made up.




Head of WEF talking about how he penetrated our cabinet. That's the guy Trudeau is working for and what this whole pandemic is about. It's not about a virus. Maybe at the beginning it was but it grew past that when the vaccines came, the virus (Delta which was actually the bad one) went away and yet the pandemic continued.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
14,483
9,329
136
It's not a conspiracy theory, they are not even trying to hide it anymore. The info is out there, this is not something I made up.




Head of WEF talking about how he penetrated our cabinet. That's the guy Trudeau is working for and what this whole pandemic is about. It's not about a virus. Maybe at the beginning it was but it grew past that when the vaccines came, the virus (Delta which was actually the bad one) went away and yet the pandemic continued.

Don't know what all this guff is about, but it sounds kind-of mad. Odd you mention the WEF - it was their pet virologist who was arguing _against_ pandemic restrictions and in favour of prematurely-opening up nearly two years ago now. Making the, in retrospect spectacularly wrong, claim that COVID had reached 'saturation' (i.e. herd-immunity via infection) back in april 2020.

The WEF is, rather like Trudeau, very clearly part of the right - maybe not the extreme neo-nazi right, but certainly the corporate right, who have always been concerned largely with keeping the share divideds and profits rolling in.

It's annoying how the fairly-far-right and the really-far-right feed off and encourage each other.
 

Maxima1

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2013
3,549
761
146
It's not a conspiracy theory, they are not even trying to hide it anymore. The info is out there, this is not something I made up.



“If over a billion Chinese citizens have the same living patterns as Australians and Americans do right now, then all of us are in for a very miserable time. The planet just can't sustain it…” -- Obama

 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
39,007
19,690
146
Don't know what all this guff is about, but it sounds kind-of mad. Odd you mention the WEF - it was their pet virologist who was arguing _against_ pandemic restrictions and in favour of prematurely-opening up nearly two years ago now. Making the, in retrospect spectacularly wrong, claim that COVID had reached 'saturation' (i.e. herd-immunity via infection) back in april 2020.

The WEF is, rather like Trudeau, very clearly part of the right - maybe not the extreme neo-nazi right, but certainly the corporate right, who have always been concerned largely with keeping the share divideds and profits rolling in.

It's annoying how the fairly-far-right and the really-far-right feed off and encourage each other.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |