Canadians: Who are you voting for and why?

[RbSX]

I never said that 'lazy people' inherity their resources and wealth. I go to the second highest ranked school in the country, where undoubtedly the average income of the parents well exceeds 500,000 dollars. Out of 147 kids in my grade, maybe 2 of them don't deserve what they are going to inherit. Most of these kids are hard workers because they are following the footsteps of the footsteps their parents took before them.

If people can't afford a university education, they must be a joke. For me to attend UBC it would cost me 2000 dollars a year.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Dexion

Originally posted by: Mill
AHAHA as if it matters! Canada is just a buffer zone for the US. You're our lackeys and nothing more. Without us you collapse.

I dunno about that, It seems your economy is already in collapse mode. No offense, but as a smaller country we are doing fine economically.

That's why our GDP per capita is so much higher than Canada's right? About a 1/3 higher. And your Unemployment rate is about 7.2% and ours is 5.6%. Ok!

Wait a sec, maybe it's because you've got 250 million people and we have 39 million! Thanks buddy! 1/3 high but a population almost 6 times more! That means on average people in canada contribute more to the GDP per capita than an american does. Wow, that really shows the american work ethic!

No, it doesn't you illiterate tard. The US's PER CAPITA GDP is 1/3 HIGHER than Canada's. That means the exact opposite of what you said.

Once the U.S. adopted Reaganomics, it began growing faster than Canada. Now, two decades later, according to the World Bank, the U. S. has a GDP per capita that is more than a third higher than Canadian per capita GDP ($34,280 for the U.S., $26,530 for Canada). These higher real incomes for U.S. citizens translate into better housing, more automobile ownership, and much higher levels of discretionary income and economic opportunity. The U. S. has also enjoyed a consistent lower level of unemployment than Canada since the mid-1980s.

Source

 

[Dexion]

Source[/quote]

Wow, that has the star bangled banner all over the article.

 

[bootymac]

I'm under the legal voting age, but I'd vote for the NDP. It scares me when I see an entire block with those Liberals signs up :frown:

 

[Dexion]

The US's PER CAPITA GDP is 1/3 HIGHER than Canada's.

Why do you keep stressing on the GDP? It doesn't prove anything nor does it show any importance towards the Canadian Election 2 weeks from now?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Dexion
Source

Wow, that has the star bangled banner all over the article.[/quote]

Do you deny the facts of it? Sure it is Op-Ed, but the facts remain the same. Perhaps the CIA World Fact Book is better?

Canada:

GDP per capita - $29,300 (2002 est.)

Unemployment: 7.6% (2002)

Exports: US 87.7%, Japan 2%, UK 1.1% (2002)

Imports: US 62.6%, China 4.6%, Japan 4.4% (2002)

Total GDP: $934.1 billion (2002)

USA:

Total GDP - $10.45 trillion (2002 est.)

GDP per capita: $36,300 (2002 est.)

Unemployment: 5.8% (2002)

Exports: Canada 23.2%, Mexico 14.1%, Japan 7.4%, UK 4.8% (2002)

Imports: Canada 17.8%, Mexico 11.3%, China 11.1%, Japan 10.4%, Germany 5.3% (2002)



Gee, we're a bit more efficient, more diversified in imports/exports, and have a GDP much much much larger in total amount, and much higher per capita. What say you?

 

[Dexion]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Dexion
Source

Wow, that has the star bangled banner all over the article.

Do you deny the facts of it? Sure it is Op-Ed, but the facts remain the same. Perhaps the CIA World Fact Book is better?

Canada:

GDP per capita - $29,300 (2002 est.)

Unemployment: 7.6% (2002)

Exports: US 87.7%, Japan 2%, UK 1.1% (2002)

Imports: US 62.6%, China 4.6%, Japan 4.4% (2002)

Total GDP: $934.1 billion (2002)

USA:

Total GDP - $10.45 trillion (2002 est.)

GDP per capita: $36,300 (2002 est.)

Unemployment: 5.8% (2002)

Exports: Canada 23.2%, Mexico 14.1%, Japan 7.4%, UK 4.8% (2002)

Imports: Canada 17.8%, Mexico 11.3%, China 11.1%, Japan 10.4%, Germany 5.3% (2002)



Gee, we're a bit more efficient, more diversified in imports/exports, and have a GDP much much much larger in total amount, and much higher per capita. What say you?[/quote]

Who cares??? we're talking about Canadian elections here, Not how much greater US is compared to Canada! Geez, get the drift. BTW.. GDP is not highly relied on for economics anymore since 1995. It's not an accurate index. Read source

If USA is so great, what is the total national capital of the country? and what is the national deficit? I'm sure those are staggering numbers, if you can find them.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Dexion

The US's PER CAPITA GDP is 1/3 HIGHER than Canada's.

Why do you keep stressing on the GDP? It doesn't prove anything nor does it show any importance towards the Canadian Election 2 weeks from now?

Sure it does -- it shows that a free market is much more efficient than a market that is heavily controlled by the government. It also proves that the US worker is more efficient. Not only that, but Canada is so heavily dependent on the US, that you all would collapse without us. Not so for the US -- it would have a significant impact, but you're less than a 1/5 of our economy. We're about 3/4ths to 7/8ths of yours. We also have states that have a military prescience far beyond anything you can muster. Diss the US all you want, but you're so co-dependent on us, that you're nothing without us. What does it have to do with the elections? You'd better vote for a less socialist party if you want to ever be an actual player in the international world.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara
I never said that 'lazy people' inherity their resources and wealth. I go to the second highest ranked school in the country, where undoubtedly the average income of the parents well exceeds 500,000 dollars. Out of 147 kids in my grade, maybe 2 of them don't deserve what they are going to inherit. Most of these kids are hard workers because they are following the footsteps of the footsteps their parents took before them.

If people can't afford a university education, they must be a joke. For me to attend UBC it would cost me 2000 dollars a year.

Maybe if you won a scholarship or only take 5 courses a YEAR (not term, YEAR).

It's about $400 a course now, and then there's books.

But yeah. I don't have tons of cash, but I work hard in the summers and make more than enough to pay for school at UBC during the year.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Dexion
Should I thank Brian Mulroney?
:roll:

Do you really think without free trade we'd be better off? It was a sink or swim situation.

I generally vote Liberal, but this time it'll be Conservative. Not that it'll really matter, the two parties are in the end rather similar. What I like about the Conservatives:

- Don't feel the need to habitually smooch Quebec's rear end.
- Will either get rid of or reform the Senate into an elected house.
- Ideas on finance are well-outlined and generally in line with my views.

Even the liberal Toronto Star admits that the Conservatives won't go anywhere near abortion, by the way. Gay marriage is a maybe, though. I'm pro-gay marriage myself but dislike the idea of activist courts, so on that issue whatever the elected government decides to place into law is fine by me. That's why we elected them, after all. It's not for judges to decide.

 

[Dexion]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Dexion
Should I thank Brian Mulroney?
:roll:

Do you really think without free trade we'd be better off? It was a sink or swim situation.Q]

Yes I truly believe so.

Taken from the CIA World Factbook:

The 1989 US-Canada Free Trade Agreement (FTA) and the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) (which includes Mexico) touched off a dramatic increase in trade and economic integration with the US. As a result of the close cross-border relationship, the economic sluggishness in the United States in 2001-02 had a negative impact on the Canadian economy.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Dexion

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Dexion
Source

Wow, that has the star bangled banner all over the article.

Do you deny the facts of it? Sure it is Op-Ed, but the facts remain the same. Perhaps the CIA World Fact Book is better?

Canada:

GDP per capita - $29,300 (2002 est.)

Unemployment: 7.6% (2002)

Exports: US 87.7%, Japan 2%, UK 1.1% (2002)

Imports: US 62.6%, China 4.6%, Japan 4.4% (2002)

Total GDP: $934.1 billion (2002)

USA:

Total GDP - $10.45 trillion (2002 est.)

GDP per capita: $36,300 (2002 est.)

Unemployment: 5.8% (2002)

Exports: Canada 23.2%, Mexico 14.1%, Japan 7.4%, UK 4.8% (2002)

Imports: Canada 17.8%, Mexico 11.3%, China 11.1%, Japan 10.4%, Germany 5.3% (2002)



Gee, we're a bit more efficient, more diversified in imports/exports, and have a GDP much much much larger in total amount, and much higher per capita. What say you?

Who cares??? we're talking about Canadian elections here, Not how much greater US is compared to Canada! Geez, get the drift. BTW.. GDP is not highly relied on for economics anymore since 1995. It's not an accurate index. Read source

If USA is so great, what is the total capital of the country? and what is the national deficit? I'm sure those are staggering numbers, if you can find them.[/quote]

I've already posted the total GDP of the US, and our deficit doesn't detract from our economic progress in the slightest. Secondly, you expect me to take some random "Green" website as a stunning indictment of world economic indicators? You actually think they impeach the Washington Times, the Cato Institute, and the CIA? I think not. You're trying to act as if I'm taking you on a side argument, but you're the one who stated the US economy was crumbling. That couldn't be farther from the truth. In fact, we're experiencing very good growth right now. Finally, when it concerns the deficit you should really understand government spending, and economics. Canada spends about 40% of their GDP a year, and the US spends about 30%. We still manage to have the most massive military power, largest economy, best technology, and most disposable spending of anywhere on earth. That's because our citizens have the freedom to do what they want.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Mill, please march out of the thread. Your chest-pounding is bringing no new information relating to the OP and is only antagonizing members so that you can stroke your ego. Seriously, give it up nobody wants to read US GDP figures in a canadion election thread.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Dexion

The US's PER CAPITA GDP is 1/3 HIGHER than Canada's.

Why do you keep stressing on the GDP? It doesn't prove anything nor does it show any importance towards the Canadian Election 2 weeks from now?

Sure it does -- it shows that a free market is much more efficient than a market that is heavily controlled by the government. It also proves that the US worker is more efficient. Not only that, but Canada is so heavily dependent on the US, that you all would collapse without us. Not so for the US -- it would have a significant impact, but you're less than a 1/5 of our economy. We're about 3/4ths to 7/8ths of yours. We also have states that have a military prescience far beyond anything you can muster. Diss the US all you want, but you're so co-dependent on us, that you're nothing without us. What does it have to do with the elections? You'd better vote for a less socialist party if you want to ever be an actual player in the international world.

Maybe the world is better off because there is only 1 USA.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Dexion

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Dexion
Should I thank Brian Mulroney?
:roll:

Do you really think without free trade we'd be better off? It was a sink or swim situation.Q]

Yes I truly believe so.

Taken from the CIA World Factbook:

The 1989 US-Canada Free Trade Agreement (FTA) and the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) (which includes Mexico) touched off a dramatic increase in trade and economic integration with the US. As a result of the close cross-border relationship, the economic sluggishness in the United States in 2001-02 had a negative impact on the Canadian economy.

How would you be better off? Higher costs, less selection, and slower availability of technology. That makes zero sense. Why do you think your country ate up NAFTA with a spoon? Because it benefited them more than it benefited the US.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Mill, please march out of the thread. Your chest-pounding is bringing no new information relating to the OP and is only antagonizing members so that you can stroke your ego. Seriously, give it up nobody wants to read US GDP figures in a canadion election thread.

How about you shove off?

I dunno about that, It seems your economy is already in collapse mode. No offense, but as a smaller country we are doing fine economically.

When that is said I will respond with facts. I've posted little rhetoric(other than my first post), and after that nothing but facts, and a strong opinion based on those facts. In my first post I was actually joking, but I see Canadians have very sensitive egos. You all can't stand it because you're our lackeys.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Dexion

The US's PER CAPITA GDP is 1/3 HIGHER than Canada's.

Why do you keep stressing on the GDP? It doesn't prove anything nor does it show any importance towards the Canadian Election 2 weeks from now?

Sure it does -- it shows that a free market is much more efficient than a market that is heavily controlled by the government. It also proves that the US worker is more efficient. Not only that, but Canada is so heavily dependent on the US, that you all would collapse without us. Not so for the US -- it would have a significant impact, but you're less than a 1/5 of our economy. We're about 3/4ths to 7/8ths of yours. We also have states that have a military prescience far beyond anything you can muster. Diss the US all you want, but you're so co-dependent on us, that you're nothing without us. What does it have to do with the elections? You'd better vote for a less socialist party if you want to ever be an actual player in the international world.

Maybe the world is better off because there is only 1 USA.

Yeah, everyone always ignores the trillions that the US has given in charity, aid, and relief to fvked up countries. Sigh.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Mill, please march out of the thread. Your chest-pounding is bringing no new information relating to the OP and is only antagonizing members so that you can stroke your ego. Seriously, give it up nobody wants to read US GDP figures in a canadion election thread.

How about you shove off?

I dunno about that, It seems your economy is already in collapse mode. No offense, but as a smaller country we are doing fine economically.

When that is said I will respond with facts. I've posted little rhetoric(other than my first post), and after that nothing but facts, and a strong opinion based on those facts. In my first post I was actually joking, but I see Canadians have very sensitive egos. You all can't stand it because you're our lackeys.

And you wonder why Americans come off as egotistical bastards...

 

[Dexion]

I've already posted the total GDP of the US, and our deficit doesn't detract from our economic progress in the slightest. Secondly, you expect me to take some random "Green" website as a stunning indictment of world economic indicators? You actually think they impeach the Washington Times, the Cato Institute, and the CIA? I think not. You're trying to act as if I'm taking you on a side argument, but you're the one who stated the US economy was crumbling. That couldn't be farther from the truth. In fact, we're experiencing very good growth right now. Finally, when it concerns the deficit you should really understand government spending, and economics. Canada spends about 40% of their GDP a year, and the US spends about 30%. We still manage to have the most massive military power, largest economy, best technology, and most disposable spending of anywhere on earth. That's because our citizens have the freedom to do what they want.

Can you quit it with your Pro-USA this and that? This never became a US vs CAnada thread. Would you kindly create one? Sheesh.

BTW you didn't answer my question about your national deficit and total national capital. I think your goverment is experiencing economical denial as the US government is constantly injecting a lot of money back into the economy to "maintain" it's growth. You can be oblivious about the fact and not read about what's wrong with the GDP. The GDP cannot be the only index to look at, it can hide alot of truths most notably "GDP IGNORES THE DRAWBACKS OF LIVING ON FOREIGN ASSETS"

Makes me wonder if the war in IRAQ had anything to do with this. Ontop of that, you might want to look up American history in economics and you'll soon figure out why China is now growing so quickly.

 

[Crappopotamus]

im turning 18 on the 27th im gonna go vote, just for the hell of it. i really dont pay much attention to politics, but whatevs. maybe ill vote green party what is their platform anyways? when i think green party i think a bunch of weed smoking hippies.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Mill, please march out of the thread. Your chest-pounding is bringing no new information relating to the OP and is only antagonizing members so that you can stroke your ego. Seriously, give it up nobody wants to read US GDP figures in a canadion election thread.

How about you shove off?

Mill, have you ever wondered why Americans are stereotyped as being arrogant self-centered assholes everywhere in the world?

 

[GL]

Why I won't be voting Conservative - By former Progressive Conservative David Orchard

Still undecided though I'm considering voting for the old Progress Conservative turned Progressive Canadian candidate in my riding just out of protest.

 

[Dexion]

Higher costs, less selection, and slower availability of technology

You must be totally oblivious that the US has the highest product costs? Haven't you wondered why everything is made in Asia? Secondly, technology isn't USA's forte other than military power. There are other more technologically advanced countries than USA in the world, look around if you haven't noticed yet.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Mill, please march out of the thread. Your chest-pounding is bringing no new information relating to the OP and is only antagonizing members so that you can stroke your ego. Seriously, give it up nobody wants to read US GDP figures in a canadion election thread.

How about you shove off?

Mill, have you ever wondered why Americans are stereotyped as being arrogant self-centered assholes everywhere in the world?

Ha. I just posted nearly the exact same thing

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Mill, please march out of the thread. Your chest-pounding is bringing no new information relating to the OP and is only antagonizing members so that you can stroke your ego. Seriously, give it up nobody wants to read US GDP figures in a canadion election thread.

How about you shove off?

I dunno about that, It seems your economy is already in collapse mode. No offense, but as a smaller country we are doing fine economically.

When that is said I will respond with facts. I've posted little rhetoric(other than my first post), and after that nothing but facts, and a strong opinion based on those facts. In my first post I was actually joking, but I see Canadians have very sensitive egos. You all can't stand it because you're our lackeys.

And you wonder why Americans come off as egotistical bastards...

The truth hurts mean the insults have to come out don't they?