The bulk of PC CPU sales do not happen in this price range.
Surely, but the bulk of the profits is made in this segment..
The bulk of PC CPU sales do not happen in this price range.
Would you mind posting the source of that market data? I'd be interested to look.The bulk of PC CPU sales do not happen in this price range.
They are talking about one model i5 with maybe HT enabled,the cheapest i7 is 303 while the highest priced i5 at the moment is at 242 the i5 with HT will cost more then that so at the most we are talking about a $50 cheaper but also slower i7 ... that's not gonna kill nothing.Hyperthreading i5's ? Yea no, I dont believe it . That would signal death of at least i3 and down
Would you mind posting the source of that market data? I'd be interested to look.
I doubt that i5 will have SMT enabled . In their edit to the article they state that they were told by some sources it actually won't have SMT enabled which would fit perfectly in line with intel's current and all previous i5/i7 lineups.
It would make no sense to call that part i5 since it would be i7 for all intents and purposes.
i7 7740K is a bit meh, only a 100Mhz bump in base clock - that is immaterial.
Take Intel's client computing group platform revenue and divide by third party market estimates of total PC unit sales shipped (times about 0.95 or so, assuming AMD has about 5% of the market). This gives an average price for CPU and PCH (counted as a platform) that's well south of $200.
My math is: $30.7B/(.26 billion PCs*0.95 share) ~= $124.
That's average for CPU and PCH combined, so CPU average prices are actually lower.
Found something interesting on reddit :
It looks like intel is doing some training and damage control before Ryzen launches. Note the mentioning of top 1.7K$ 10 core SKU and slight shifting of goal posts in last paragraph where they mention other products aside from CPUs.
So Intel is using the centurion method by pushing TDP and clocks to be competitive. Seems disappointing...
I think Intel realizes that AMD has a very competitive product which has not been the case for a decade. So I am not surprised to see them a bit concerned. One thing is sure AMD is going to take market share. If Intel wants to hurt AMD they have to hurt themselves first by cutting prices and cratering profits. I think 2018 is going to get more interesting as we will have no tock from Intel till 2019. Skylake-X vs Zen+ is going to be a mouth watering prospect.
So losing market share wouldn't hurt profits but cutting prices to defend market share would?
Also Skylake-X is coming in August, so it's really Zen vs Skylake-X/Kaby Lake-X.
Found something interesting on reddit :
It looks like intel is doing some training and damage control before Ryzen launches. Note the mentioning of top 1.7K$ 10 core SKU and slight shifting of goal posts in last paragraph where they mention other products aside from CPUs.
I think that Intel wishes they had their first non HEDT 6C processor as 7700K instead of a 4C now and not in one year.
Its a damned if you do damned if you don't situation for Intel.
There is no way for Intel to expect the same profits and market share when there is a competitive alternative.
dude Skylake-X is realistically 6 months away. In fact Skylake-X is probably going to be the HEDT lineup from Intel for atleast 24 months. With Coffeelake for desktops and notebooks being at 14nm in 2018 I do not see Intel moving to 10nm for HEDT anytime soon. Now tell me if you have a Skylake-X in Sep/Oct 2017 and a Zen+ in late Q1 2018 and the vast majority of Skylake-X lifetime spent competing Zen+ would you call Zen+ as the real competition for Skylake-X or Zen.
Arachnotronic how much ever you defend Intel nothing is going to hide the fact that Intel became complacent.
There is nothing interesting from them till their next tock Icelake probably in mid-2019. If Cannonlake and 10nm were in good shape why is Intel releasing Coffeelake on 14nm in 2018. Intel has a massive hole in their roadmap for roughly 2 years and AMD is going to drive some serious gains. AMD has tocks lined up for 2018-2020 according to their CTO. Intel is walking into a perfect storm.
That's your opinion, please don't state it as fact.
How can it be anything else?