Don't you realize that comparing the performance of a MOBILE SOC (a lot of stuff together) with a 5W TDP against a 100W TDP CPU is hilarious ? Apple has never designed a CPU to compete in that segment and they don't have the need to right now. But as you guys are repeating performance=IPCxfrequency and I pointed out that Apple has already better IPC/architecture so It is only question of scalling frequency and redesigning the chip.
and mainstream 6C/12T models already confirmed by intel leakSummit Ridge launches.... 9 months later... COFFEE LAKE! w/ AVX512 for all!
I do, because I've been working in mobile chips for 20 years. You simply don't get the point.Don't you realize that comparing the performance of a MOBILE SOC (a lot of stuff together) with a 5W TDP against a 100W TDP CPU is hilarious ?
Yes, it's trivial to scale frequency and redesign the chip to reach Intel performance. In fact it's not that you don't get the point, you believe in unicornsApple has never designed a CPU to compete in that segment and they don't have the need to right now. But as you guys are repeating performance=IPCxfrequency and I pointed out that Apple has already better IPC/architecture so It is only question of scalling frequency and redesigning the chip.
and mainstream 6C/12T models already confirmed by intel leak
Summit Ridge launches.... 9 months later... COFFEE LAKE! w/ AVX512 for all!
i don't know you, and you have 8 posts so you must be new here. maybe you are a long time poster on a different forum...Mainstream? Lol. Its X299 chipset so HEDT.
And this is from CPU-World:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Kaby_Lake-X.html
A new socket bigger than 2011-3!
- Core i7 7740K (QMM9 ES): Its base frequency is 4.30 GHz well (100 MHz more than 7700K) and its turbo frequency at 4.50 GHz (similar to 7700K). Hyper-Threading is enabled and has 8 MB of L3 cache. There is, however, a small subtlety. The Core i7 7700K is specified at 4.4 GHz in Turbo mode with all active cores and 4.5 GHz with a single active core. The Core i7 7740K is designed to operate at 4.5 GHz Turbo mode, regardless of the number of active cores. This makes it, in practice, a CPU at 4.50 GHz.
- Core i5 7640K (QMMA ES): Although more disappointing than expected, the Core i5 7640K is clocked at 4.00 GHz good base against 3.80 GHz for the Core i5 7600K Socket LGA1151. A priori it is a gain, except that here: its Turbo mode is located at 4.2 GHz for a single active core, 4.1 GHz with two active cores and ... 4.0 GHz - its basic frequency - with 4 active cores ! Values strictly identical to the Core i5 7600K and which return to the removal of Turbo mode in Quad Core mode. This is enough to annihilate the interest of the increase in the base frequency. Regarding the presence of Hyper-Threading, Intel's internal documents indicate that it is disabled, but we still have no confirmation from a source that actually has a working CPU. As soon as our sample has found a compatible motherboard (which will not be long), we will confirm this point. Nevertheless, given the marketing abuse that seems to constitute this range of processors, we now have little hope.
It remains with these CPUs that Intel intends to compete with Ryzen. The acceleration of the timing - they are now in the final validation stage - demonstrates this. Without ruling on their performance, these Kaby Lake-X to resemble the time a joke in bad taste. Intel is obviously seeking (yet) to create novelty by all means to mask the lack of evolution in its architectures. These practices make us think of the detestable waltz of labels in the world of GPU. Should it be interpreted as a sign of excitement due to unexpected competition? Clearly !
https://www.cpchardware.com/core-i7-7740k-et-i5-7640k-kaby-lake-x-lga2066/
Google translate'd
Reminds me of the P4EE to counter Athlon 64 back in the day. That one was also known as Emergency Edition...
Reminds me of the P4EE to counter Athlon 64 back in the day. That one was also known as Emergency Edition...
I really do hope that Intel will throw cache and EDRAM to the "problem". First in line to buy that 128MB EDRAM i7 7777K!
What is it, then? You seem to know something we don't. A knee jerk reaction to introduce LGA2066 then later add actual HEDT processors (Skylake-X) to it?
Please share.
You are explaining why it has nothing to do with Ryzen.edit: what is the point of a 7740k which is effectively skt1151 Kabylake with 4.5GHz 4 core turbo on an expensive LGA2066 quad channel memory board... something I can easily do right now with a dual channel cheap Z board and a 6/7700k?
So far the only viable explanations involves moving all enthusiasts to their own reservation in form of Socket R and doing something else with mainstream socket.
No, it is LGA-2066 as far as I know.Guys, I'm not quite understanding this yet.. so is that new 7740k going to be compatible with the current 1151 socketed Z270 motherboards, or are we looking at another socket release and about how soon can we expect these new cpu's?
Oh ok got it. I was kind of hoping for a 6c/12t release on Z270 but guess its not gonna happen.Finally got enough saved up for a upgrade to either a i7 7700K or AMD's Ryzen $350.00 equivalent, but i was trying to see who was going to be better between the Ryzen and the 7740k..
All those people who interpret KBL-X / SKL-X / Coffee Lake as reactions to Zen
There is exactly zero evidence that that is the case.
Oh ok got it. I was kind of hoping for a 6c/12t release on Z270 but guess its not gonna happen.Finally got enough saved up for a upgrade to either a i7 7700K or AMD's Ryzen $350.00 equivalent, but i was trying to see who was going to be better between the Ryzen and the 7740k..