Canon 5D MK2 appears!

[Deadtrees]

http://forums.dpreview.com/for...=1032&message=27605964

http://www.pbase.com/image/95761104

"Canon 5D Mark II ? available from June 2008
The EOS 5D Mark II with full-frame sensor with 16 megapixels.
6.5 frames per second and innovative DIGIC III processor.
Small, inconspicuous, light and manageable but still robust, weather-sealed construction."

This must be another common Canon thing happening again; before the official announcement of the product, it appears on Canon official websites in some random countries then disappears, only to be confirmed later.

16 megapixels: Though I wish it'd have more megapixels, it'd be silly just to stuff more megapixels on the current 5D sensor technology. Given how Canon has been improving their sensors as seen in the case of 1Ds Mk3, I suspect it'll probably have about the same actual photon size of current 5D with extra 3.2 megapixels.

6.5 fps: That's quite a boost from the current 3fps of 5D!

weather-sealed construction: Would be nice if it's fully weather sealed but I doubt it. I think it'd be partly weather sealed like 40D.

AF: Though it's not mentioned in the leaked spec, I belive it'll have all cross type AF points as seen in 40D.

Anway, As a current 5D user, I really hope 5D Mk2 comes out with the spec. mentioned above and I'm sure it'll probably do so as the competition in the market has been quite tight. The only concern is the price. 5D came out with a price tag of $4000 back then and it was considered a crazy bargain due to the fact all the FF dslrs were a lot more expensive. No longer is the case as Nikon D3, with all those ultra specs, is only $5000. Given how D3 is priced and Sony is coming out with a FF camera soon, I think 5D MK2 will be around $3500 top.

Update:

http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/W...ductCd-0470409509.html
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Ma...d-Guide/dp/0470409509/

Though it sounds strange how the book is already announced even before the product is out, Wiley has been publishing manuals about 6 month after the release of the brand new camera. Given that, it's not much suprising how the book is already planned and announced at the point. However, what's suprising is that Wiley is taking pre-orders prior to Canon mentioning anything.

 

[Heidfirst]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Anway, As a current 5D user, I really hope 5D Mk2 comes out with the spec. mentioned above and I'm sure it'll probably do so as the competition in the market has been quite tight. The only concern is the price. 5D came out with a price tag of $4000 back then and it was considered a crazy bargain due to the fact all the FF dslrs were a lot more expensive. No longer is the case as Nikon D3, with all those ultra specs, is only $5000. Given how D3 is priced and Sony is coming out with a FF camera soon, I think 5D MK2 will be around $3500 top.

It's getting to be a very competitive market & one can't help but wonder if Nikon & Sony are working hand in hand to target Canon without really going head to head with each other ...
Certainly Canon don't have the freedom in pricing that they once had.

Supposedly from the latest Nikon firmware there also appears to be a Nikon 24.4Mp FF body coming presumably based on the Sony sensor announced for the "A900".

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
http://forums.dpreview.com/for...=1032&message=27605964

http://www.pbase.com/image/95761104

weather-sealed construction: Would be nice if it's fully weather sealed but I doubt it. I think it'd be partly weather sealed like 40D.

Ugg... to call the 40D weathersealed, even partly, would still be overselling it IMO. The only thing weathersealed about it is the battery door and memory card compartment. I have never had a case where weathersealing the battery door or memory card compartment would have mattered. It has always been the:

1. Buttons
2. On-camera flash
3. Turn dials
4. Joystick on the back

that have lead to issues when exposed to the elements.

 

[Deadtrees]

Yeah, I don't really see the point of sealing those areas but I guess it's better than nothing at all though it's pretty much nothing.

 

[jpeyton]

You upgrading?

 

[dug777]

Price will be the make/break factor here, methinks.

 

[corkyg]

I will be upgrading as soon as it is available. I just sold one of my 5D's, so I'm ready to help boost the economy again.

BTW, weather sealing is sometimes a matter of degree. With the original 5D, I have always handled that with a 1 gallon ziplock bag. Worked great even on the Amazon.

 

[jpeyton]

You should pre-emptively sell your other one. Since the 5D has been on the market for so long, my guess is that there are a lot of bodies out ready to be upgraded. It will be a buyers market this summer.

 

[ElFenix]

well, if you notice on that page, the 40D is not described with 'wetterfeste Konstruktion.' the 1D is. so i'm guessing it has full weather sealed construction, as is the case with the D300 and D3, which are the 5D II's nominal competitors.

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
You should pre-emptively sell your other one. Since the 5D has been on the market for so long, my guess is that there are a lot of bodies out ready to be upgraded. It will be a buyers market this summer.

That's a thought. I will need it in July for a trip to Portugal. So, it is a matter of timing. We'll see how the MkII availability unrolls.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
well, if you notice on that page, the 40D is not described with 'wetterfeste Konstruktion.' the 1D is. so i'm guessing it has full weather sealed construction, as is the case with the D300 and D3, which are the 5D II's nominal competitors.

I hope this is the case as well. The 40D sealing of the battery compartment and CF compartment is retarded IMO... my 30D and XT have both been drenched and even partly submerged in salt water for a short period of time, and none of the malfunctions afterwards had anything to do with water getting into the card or battery compartments. They were both dry afterwards. But the buttons, the wheels, and the on-board flash were completely different stories. The same with things like sand. Sand isn't going to affect the battery or CF compartment. It will seriously jam up your buttons and make your wheels grind though.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

cant wait to see this puppy in action!

 

[Jawo]

This will be amazing when it finally comes out....seems simlar to the leaked specs the DPReview had posted a few months ago with a 4/1 release date. It will be nice when all dSLRs could be FF then never have to worry about the crop factor!

 

[soydios]

Originally posted by: Jawo
This will be amazing when it finally comes out....seems simlar to the leaked specs the DPReview had posted a few months ago with a 4/1 release date. It will be nice when all dSLRs could be FF then never have to worry about the crop factor!

I don't know if we'll ever get there. The cost of silicon substrate doesn't change nearly as much, and a full-frame sensor still requires more than twice as much silicon than an APS-C sensor. So I think that full-frame cameras will become less expensive, with the 5D leading the way, hopefully followed next year by a D300x, but it'll be several generations before we see them under $1500, if ever.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: soydios

Originally posted by: Jawo
This will be amazing when it finally comes out....seems simlar to the leaked specs the DPReview had posted a few months ago with a 4/1 release date. It will be nice when all dSLRs could be FF then never have to worry about the crop factor!

I don't know if we'll ever get there. The cost of silicon substrate doesn't change nearly as much, and a full-frame sensor still requires more than twice as much silicon than an APS-C sensor. So I think that full-frame cameras will become less expensive, with the 5D leading the way, hopefully followed next year by a D300x, but it'll be several generations before we see them under $1500, if ever.

Given how 5D is only around $2000 even when there's no direct competition, I'm positive $1500 FF is around the corner.

 

[GTaudiophile]

More discussion at DPreview says this was all a hoax. Someone doctored a screen shot of the German Canon site and spread it over the net.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: soydios

Originally posted by: Jawo
This will be amazing when it finally comes out....seems simlar to the leaked specs the DPReview had posted a few months ago with a 4/1 release date. It will be nice when all dSLRs could be FF then never have to worry about the crop factor!

I don't know if we'll ever get there. The cost of silicon substrate doesn't change nearly as much, and a full-frame sensor still requires more than twice as much silicon than an APS-C sensor. So I think that full-frame cameras will become less expensive, with the 5D leading the way, hopefully followed next year by a D300x, but it'll be several generations before we see them under $1500, if ever.

cost on 135 sensors isn't that high. APS-C sensor cost is well under $50 in the volumes that sony is making them in.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: soydios

Originally posted by: Jawo
This will be amazing when it finally comes out....seems simlar to the leaked specs the DPReview had posted a few months ago with a 4/1 release date. It will be nice when all dSLRs could be FF then never have to worry about the crop factor!

I don't know if we'll ever get there. The cost of silicon substrate doesn't change nearly as much, and a full-frame sensor still requires more than twice as much silicon than an APS-C sensor. So I think that full-frame cameras will become less expensive, with the 5D leading the way, hopefully followed next year by a D300x, but it'll be several generations before we see them under $1500, if ever.

Given how 5D is only around $2000 even when there's no direct competition, I'm positive $1500 FF is around the corner.

$1500 would make going FF a no-brainer for me.

I think $2K is my limit for body only as an amateur.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: soydios

Originally posted by: Jawo
This will be amazing when it finally comes out....seems simlar to the leaked specs the DPReview had posted a few months ago with a 4/1 release date. It will be nice when all dSLRs could be FF then never have to worry about the crop factor!

I don't know if we'll ever get there. The cost of silicon substrate doesn't change nearly as much, and a full-frame sensor still requires more than twice as much silicon than an APS-C sensor. So I think that full-frame cameras will become less expensive, with the 5D leading the way, hopefully followed next year by a D300x, but it'll be several generations before we see them under $1500, if ever.

Given how 5D is only around $2000 even when there's no direct competition, I'm positive $1500 FF is around the corner.

$1500 would make going FF a no-brainer for me.

I think $2K is my limit for body only as an amateur.

i think that's a magic number for quite a few people. D300 was the 5th best-selling slr in march.

 

[Deadtrees]

Update:

http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/W...ductCd-0470409509.html
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Ma...d-Guide/dp/0470409509/

Though it sounds strange how the book is already announced even before the product is out, Wiley has been publishing manuals about 6 month after the release of the brand new camera. Given that, it's not much suprising how the book is already planned and announced at the point. However, what's suprising is that Wiley is taking pre-orders prior to Canon mentioning anything.

 

[Deadtrees]

repost

 

[punchkin]

Looks good... if this is really it.

 

[Koing]

$1500 retail is not around the corner. At least 18month until we see a RRP of $1500 for a FF dslr imo. 33% is a BIG price drop, but it will happen.

For Canon the weather sealing will be with their 1 series for a long time.

Koing

 

[SAWYER]

Originally posted by: corkyg
I will be upgrading as soon as it is available. I just sold one of my 5D's, so I'm ready to help boost the economy again.

BTW, weather sealing is sometimes a matter of degree. With the original 5D, I have always handled that with a 1 gallon ziplock bag. Worked great even on the Amazon.

MMMM pics please