Canon Digital Rebel XT Kit for $899

bboy

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BestBuy.com has the Canon Digital Rebel XT Kit on sale for $949.99. Combine that with the $10 off every $100 (up to $500) you spend at this link and the final price is $899. I've been looking to get this for a couple weeks now and this is the best deal I've found.

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--- Edit 3/27/2005 ---
Sale ended on 3/26. The price is now $949 when using the $10 off $100 link.

 

WA261

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Seems that price is about normal for the cam. I got it back when it was like 1200, but still well worth it. I have been VERY pleased with its performance.
 

bboy

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Hasn't the Rebel XT only been out for a couple weeks? The lowest price I've seen for the kit otherwise was around $950.

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Winter303

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He was probably thinking of the original rebel, which I also have and am very pleased with. Now if only I could conive my significant other into purchasing this...
 

KamakaziRcr

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This is a fairly hot deal. I picked on up. It just sucks that the black model is selling for at or almost retail nearly everywhere, while the silver body model cost $50 less at some places.
 

KamakaziRcr

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Also, just to make it a bit better, buy one of those reward programs for $10 and apply this purchase on it. You'll profit $20 in reward certificate after recouping from the $10 initial price of of the program.
 

wavshrdr

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Only problem is the kit lens isn't too great. If you are serious about the quality of photos this camera can take you will end up spending more on lenses than the camera cost in the fist place. I damn lens I bought cost far more than the camera did! Everytime though I take a few photos with it I reaize why I dropped the wad of cash I did on the lens.

If you DO buy one of the Rebel XT's seriously check out the Canon line of "L" lenses for the EOS cameras. If you want a nice telephoto look at the Canon 100-400mm IS L USM lens but don't get sticker shock when you look at the price for one of these babies. If you still have some cash left over pick up one of the 70-200mm 2.8 L lenses and if you have some real cash to go with it splurge for the IS (image stabilized) version of this lens. Pick up a good wide angle that is faster than the stock lens and pick up a 50mm 1.4 USM lens and you should be pretty well set for a while. Unfortunately I went this route and picked of up 2 other lenses and my CC won't forgive me for a while!

One last thing, pick up the performance plan at BB on one of these and DON'T buy any lenses until you try them before you take them home! Or at least make sure if you pick up a used one (really a good idea in many ways) that you see shots of what it can do. There are definitely "sharper" models due to production variations but this isn't as much of a factor in the Canon "L" series of lenses. The camera is cheap but the glass will set you back a lot! It will make or break the camera though.

Oh yeah, the camera is pretty amazing and don't forget to buy fast CF cards for it! Don't be so sad if you can't get a black one either. I have the silver and have no regrets. Heat is the enemy of the CCD and CMOS sensors in digital cameras and they cause more noise to be introduced so having silver is a PLUS to me!
 

wavshrdr

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What's wrong with the silver? This isn't a Ford Model "T". Actually the price isn't bad at all if you do the Reward Zone with it too. I haven't seen a better price for this combo anywhere than this deal.

It is NOT the original D. Rebel that is 6MP. It is the new 8MP version that has most of the features of the 20D but a smaller form factor! Maybe you are confusing this deal with one for the original DRebel? BB also doesn't sell gray market cameras so there will be no warranty issues with this either.

I have actively searched prices on this camera and there are some people advertising lower prices but when you check them out on resellerratings you wouldn't buy from the with someone else's money. They bait you with a low price on a camera you can't buy at that price UNLESS you buy their overprices crappy add-ons like a POS tripod or 1GB CF card for $200 and so on.

If any of you are seriously considering this camer I urge you to try it. It is a great camera for the money and takes excellent quality photos! The deal is definitely a good one as these are in very high demand. Each time my local BB gets a shipment in they are gone with minutes or hours. When I bougth mine their entire week's allotment was sold in 15 minutes and fortunately I was at the front of the line. I got $50 off retail and my RZ points but if I had to do it over again I'd even pay retail for this camera. It truly is that good.
 

bboy

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wavshrdr (or any other Rebel XT owner),

Have you noticed that you can't get the camera to stay flat if you put it on a flat surface while the lens is attached? Mine will rock back and forth unless I take the lens off. It seems like maybe the lens is too heavy or something.

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wavshrdr

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Actually I had noticed it but every lens of mine except 1 outweigh the camera by quite a bit. If it is on a table (and not on a tripod) I just use a bean bag mount that I have for that purpose. Works pretty slick and is easy to carry.

Look here about halfway down the page to get an idea of what I am talking about. They come in all kinds of sizes.

http://www.shortcourses.com/equipment/tripods/4-other.htm

or here

http://www.visualdepartures.com/steadybg.html

Lightweight and they conform to almost any surface. Great for when I travel to Europe or Russia.
 

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damn, wavshrdr, :thumbsup:

best noob ever

i really want this combined with a fast wide lens and a portrait lens. but i won't *need* it for another few months... a pro1 would be nice too, though. i know, the pro1 isn't nearly as versatile as the d-reb, but it is much smaller and the lens is pretty good. my biggest problem is, of course, the grip. every man seems to hate it. the camera is weird to use compared to a film rebel. it seems bigger, yet smaller at the same time.
 

wavshrdr

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ElFenix - Thanks for the kinkd words. Maybe in few months the XT will be cheaper but I want to use it in the spring and summer. I really like that I can stuff it in a pocket with the kit lens and go. Fast lens = $$$ as you probably well know. If you want a better feel to the body add the grip but I found I didn't need it. The PRO1 isn't a bad camera either and the lens is ok but after trying the XT I could never consider the PRO1. I do find their ads about it a little misleading for the Pro1. For example they claim an "L" lens but the average "L lens for a EOS Canon costs as much as the whole Pro1 camera does! So where did they cut the corners? What happens if you scratch the lens on the Pro1, you ahve a piece of junk.

I never could get used to the Pro1 when I trired it. As for the XT in some ways it feels bigger/smaller than the film camera but no one said it had to be just like the 35mm which while a popular format could be easily disupted as being the "best" format. I went to buy the 20D and walked out with the Rebel XT and love it. Yes I'd change a few things but it is amazing bang for the buck. It runs heads up with the 20D at all ISO levels for noise and the 20D is one of the best if you aren't going to pay more than $4k for just the body.

I shot a bunch of photos in low light without flash at ISO 1600 and the only way you can see the noise is at 100%. At the normal 4x6 or 5x7 size noise is virtually invisible. Because of this you can get by with a "slower" lens and save a few bucks if you want and don't need to print bigger than 8x10's.

I thought the 20D felt huge in my hands. That coupled with the great battery life (even though they downsized the battery from the DRebel) and amazing photo qualities and this camera rocks. IF I buy anything better if will be one of the MK series of bodies but I don't have $4k to drop on a EOS-1D Mark II body at the moment nor do I see much benefit for most of my shooting.

I am hoping there are some firmware hacks that will be discovered that transformed the DRebel into almost a 10D! Bottom line though is you can have a great camera body but put a crappy lens in front of it and you get garbage output. Just like putting crappy tires on a Vette, totally defeats the purpose of the car. I can't suggest often enough that people try the XT. Great camera for the $$$ and I was NOT a super big Canon fan before. I belonged to the Minolta/Pentax side of the debate. The DReb got me thinking and the 20D was what I was going to try and buy.
 

aceO07

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wavshrdr, while I do agree that the L lenses are much better. I'm not sure if they're perfect for everybody. Especially not the 70-200L. It's not too expensive, under 1k$. However, it's not really a range that most people use. It's sitting on my bookself and I only used it for moon pics or animals. It really depends on what the camera owner is interested in taking photos of. Of the L lenses, I think the one to go for is the 17-40L. That's a nice range. But remember, it does cost ~$700.

Maybe it's just preference, but I don't think the camera feels right when the body is light and the lens is heavy. My Canon 300D doesn't feel right with the 70-200L on it. Front heavy. The 350D is much lighter, so I can't imagine how that will be.

For the person just starting out, I don't think they should start out with an L. Stick with the stock kit lens. It doesn't cost that much more to buy the kit with lens. They are very DECENT for the price. Learn to use the camera. Learn to use the lens. Figure out what you want to take pictures of and then expand your lens collection. Try the lenses in a store and see if you can actually tell the difference and you think it's worth the big price difference first.

For those interested in learning more. Visit the http://www.dpreview.com forums. Most of the people there are very knowledgeable.
 

vicdoc

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Tamron makes a sharp, light zoom 28-75 lens for the XT which is a great buy for the money at about $370 which with a $40 rebate, makes it about $330. It is not an L Canon lens but it isn't $1000 either. There are a lot of reviews which speak well for this lens wich has a 6 year warrantee. I can't wait to try it out when it comes in next week for my XT...
The kit lens gets good reviews for the money, but for me it isn't as sharp as I'd like.
 

aceO07

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Originally posted by: vicdoc
Tamron makes a sharp, light zoom 28-75 lens for the XT which is a great buy for the money at about $370 which with a $40 rebate, makes it about $330. It is not an L Canon lens but it isn't $1000 either. There are a lot of reviews which speak well for this lens wich has a 6 year warrantee. I can't wait to try it out when it comes in next week for my XT...
The kit lens gets good reviews for the money, but for me it isn't as sharp as I'd like.

Is that the Tamrom 28-75F2.8? I think I've tried that one. It's quite nice. It's also quite big and HEAVY. Heavier than the Canon 17-40f4L, but also cheaper in price. Built like a tank. Too bad the tamrom doesn't go wider.. I find myself missing the wide angle all the times I've used the Canon 28-135IS too.
 

KamakaziRcr

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Originally posted by: happyshopping007
not hot.

You sure you didn't get this mixed up with the regular Canon Digital Rebel (300d)? $899 is pretty hot for something that came out just 2 weeks ago retailing for $999.
 

wavshrdr

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aceO07- I am not saying the Canon "L" lenses are for everyone and you have to decide what kind of shooting you want to do. I currently have the following lenses for my XT:

Sigma 18-125
Sigma 55-200
Canon 18-55 Kit lens
Canon 50 F1.4
Canon 70-200 L F2.8
Canon 100-400 L IS USM
Canon 1.4X TC (teleconverter)

The lens I use the most is the Sigam 18-125 as it is my walking around lens. I quickly ruled out the Canon 17-40 as it was overpriced and the actual quality wasn't much better than the Sigma 18-125. The 18-125 has totally replaced the stock kit lens (which isn't terrible). The Sigma gives me good wideangle (WA) and a decent zoom which the Canon 17-40 didn't. For an everyday lens I also considered the Tamron 28-75 which is an excellent lens but as mentioned is heavy but worst for me is the WA wasn't very useful for me indoors like at a museum or trying to get a big group of people in the shot. The plus Tamron is that a fast lens and has excellent quality.

Unfortunately the laws of physics mean that on the sensor the size of most of the Canon/Minolta etc. dSLR that to be "fast" means you have to gather a lot of light so the lens diameter has to be bigger. Bigger-more glass=heavier. My 70-200 2.8 is a perfect example of a not a lightweight lens but I don't think it is terrible. What I have noticed with one the lenses (about 3lbs) is that the LENS will support the camera and not the camera supporting the lens. You have to adapt a little but with the XT it feels easier to do this than with the 300D (original DReb).

In lenses you truly get what you pay for but you can easily overpay. This is very true of some of the Canon lenses. I am not a lens snob by any means but I did spend some serious cash to buy the lenses I have BUT I carefully weighed my purchases before I bought the lenses I did. Out of the lenses I have the to Canon L lenses I have will sell in about 5 minutes if you put them up for sale because they are that well respected in the photo world and that popular.

The 70-200 2.8 is an amazing indoor sport lens. Take that into your local gym or arena and it will take stunning photos. The 100-400 L with IS (image stabilization) is amazing outdoors with decent light. They are each on my camera about 15% of the time and the Sigma 18-125 is there about 60%. One lens to consider for someone starting out is the Canon 50mm 1.8 AKA the "Plastic Fantastic" as it is available for about $70 and is very fast (great indoors lens and for portraits) and has decent bokeh. I bought the 50 1.4 because I wanted a slightly faster lens that was metal construction.

As I mentioned earlier the stock kit lens is pretty decent but it does have a very limited zoom. The top of range the 55mm is actually is about the equivalent of a 88mm zoom on a normal 35mm. The WA aspect of the lens isn?t bad and it?s not too heavy but 88mm isn?t much of a zoom nor is the lens very fast.

I bought the Sigma 55-200 not because it was a great lens but when I don?t want to put on of my L lenses at risk such as in a dangerous area (risk of theft) or a less than ideal climate such as a lot of dust, dirt, sand, etc. It isn?t a bad lens at all and has good reach. Not very fast but I picked it up at a great price and I find I use it enough to justify keeping it.

aceO07 ? DPReview is a good sight but I can suggest a MUCH better site for people who want to take this hobby seriously or even for pros. I suggest going to www.FredMiranda.com (AKA FM) if you want a great site with a GREAT forum to buy and sell equipment or lenses. If you put a 70-200 2.8 L lens up for sale here it will typically sell faster than it would take a drunk blonde to find a date at a frat house!

At the FM website it is sort of like AT but for camera geeks of which I am proud to be one. There are people who spent more on 1 lens than probably some of you have spent on your cars. Contrary to what many people think the cameras are NOT the expensive part; then lenses ARE!!! But if you buy good lenses you can easily resell them or use them on your next camera if you keep a similar style of fitment.

If you try different lenses you will actually start to see the variation in lenses. There can be wide differences in the actual quality of the shots the lenses take. You can actually see how the lens affects the contrast and the color of your shots not to mention the resolving power of the lens are how the image may soften up from the center. After a while you may even start to notice the CA (chromatic aberration) of the lens which is evidenced by purple fringing on the sharp borders of object.

For example look at the tops of waves and see if you see purple there when looking closely at the photo OR look at a tree limb where the sun is coming from the back. After a while you will start to see vignetting of the lens where the image has a noticeable drop-off in the brightness near the corners. What you ultimately want is a lens with no CA or vignetting and with sharp corner to corner focusing and with good contrast. You can achieve better sharpness by decreasing the aperture (ie higher f/stop) but then you can?t use as fast a shutter speed. So if you start with a faster lens you have more flexibility.

The problem with only having one lens is it is like playing golf with one club. Even if you have a ?zoom? club you are still going to make sacrifices in some area OR you will pay a lot more $$$. In the real world it is impractical to have all 80+ Canon lens unless this is your profession AND you have REALLY deep pockets!

If you could only buy just 1 lens, I?d suggest the Sigma 18-125 as it is a good WA lens and has a decent zoom AND it doesn?t cost a wad of cash. You can pick it up in the mid $200 range and stopped down a bit it is pretty sharp. Couple that with it isn?t too big or heavy and you have a great all around lens. Other options in this price range don?t have much wide angle coverage or have very anemic zooms. A zoom is a compromise by its nature but very useful. What good is have the best lens in the world if you don?t have it on your camera when you need it!
 

John P

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My list of recommended lenses for a newbie photographer:


Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR for general purpose/walkaround lens. Very lightweight. Takes nice action shots but you don't get the blurred background that you get with an f2.8 lens.

Canon 50mm f1.8 for indoor sports. Most people with younger kids that play in poorly lit elementary and middle school gyms will find the f2.8 does not cut it. I have gotten plenty of nice basketball photos with this lens. Plus, it's a heck of a lot easier to tote than the 70-200 f2.8.

Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 EX APO IF HSM for outdoor sports and better lit gymnasiums. I haven't got to play with mine much yet since I coach both my kids soccer and baseball teams.

I also hang out on the www.FredMiranda.com forums - especially the Sports Corner and Lighting Techniques (for home studio tips). Lots of good info there.
 

wavshrdr

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The Canon 50mm 1.8 is a good lens that you can buy as I mentioned before pretty cheap and it is fairly fast. One gotcha about it is it is fairly fragile.

The Sigma 70-200 is an excellent lens too. As I mentioned before I was going to buy one until I found the deal I did on my L version of this lens.

Once you see what you can do with a dSLR vs. the point and shoots it is hard to go back. I keep a P&S just for candid photos and for parties. The DReb XT is a nice camera for the money. For the most part it is tough for someone getting into this hobby to justify buying the L lenses. Definitely read the lens reviews on Fred Miranda's site before buying lenses. You will definitely get a feel for if the lens is worth the $$$.

Originally posted by: John P.
My list of recommended lenses for a newbie photographer:


Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR for general purpose/walkaround lens. Very lightweight. Takes nice action shots but you don't get the blurred background that you get with an f2.8 lens.

Canon 50mm f1.8 for indoor sports. Most people with younger kids that play in poorly lit elementary and middle school gyms will find the f2.8 does not cut it. I have gotten plenty of nice basketball photos with this lens. Plus, it's a heck of a lot easier to tote than the 70-200 f2.8.

Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 EX APO IF HSM for outdoor sports and better lit gymnasiums. I haven't got to play with mine much yet since I coach both my kids soccer and baseball teams.

I also hang out on the www.FredMiranda.com forums - especially the Sports Corner and Lighting Techniques (for home studio tips). Lots of good info there.

 
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