Canon ip4200 Ink Compatibility

[FordLorider]

I recently purchased the ip4200 from Canon and found that it needs the Canon 8 series of ink (except for the black). When I go to ink resellers they direct me to the 6 series of inks? Does anyone know the differences between the two and if they are interchangable?

 

[Lemon law]

Since I am boycotting the Canon series with the chipped cartridges, I don't have a reason to know.
But there have been threads on steves digicams on the subject-----as I recall most of the 6&8 series inks are basically identical, but one color or another has a significantly different color profile----but not different enough for it not to be adjsutable in software. Plus the new Canon inks are supposed to resist fading better.

But for a more definitive answer go to Steves digicams or nifty stuff forums.

But the 6 series cartridges can't be used in an ip4200-----no chip on cartridge---printer does not print.
Even if you refill the CLI-8 cartridge----the chip counts noozle fires and when it says you should be out of ink it shuts the printer down.-------its possible to get around this in software after much nagging but then you basically have voided the warranty.---and third party vendors can duplicate the tanks so they fit, but no Canon chip, no print when put into a ip4200.

Hopefully a workaround will be found for the chip----but so far nothing yet. Until then Canon might have a gotcha hanging over your head when you bought an ip4200 because you may be stuck using OEM cartridges for a long time.

If a workaround is found, you may find you have one of the best printers on the market.

 

[Zepper]

Yup, there have been numerous posts in many, many threads here warning against the new Canon line because they changed the tanks. The new tanks have an active element in them and the printer won't work w/o it. So you're stuck with buying Canon or refilling (doesn't void warranty, by the way) until the cloners RE the new tanks.
. If you haven't already used your MFD, take it back and find a last year's model.

.bh.

 

[FordLorider]

Ohhhhh, you guys just killed me with this post. I had no idea! Thank you very much though.

 

[Lemon law]

Sorry FordLorider,

Just telling you the sad truth-----but that seems the modern trend in inkjet printers for all makers.
Screw the consumer and gouge more from the ink sales.-----as if their profit was not already scandalous before. But that where the rebellion must start---educating consumers.

Pass the word on.-----its the power of these forums.

 

[PurdueRy]

I really don't think this is all that unfair. Many companies rely on the sale of their ink to make most of their profit. Some manufacturers give you very large breaks on the cost of their printers with the assumption that you will buy their in later(Lexmark in particular). If you don't like it, don't buy their printers, but I wouldn't call it unfair.

 

[Zepper]

Well, they do allow for refilling (but you probably shouldn't use current inks) and the cloners will eventually dupe the tanks, so it's just an anti-consumer move on the part of Canon. What they need to do is either make their tanks so much better that cloners cant touch them or cut the price in half. Either would make them half way competitive. As it is they are just trying to close out competition. The fact that they don't support Linux et al. directly when most of the work is already done in the OS-X driver, is another strike against Canon. If Epson didn't clog so easily and/or had inexpensive, user-replaceable print heads, that's probably what I'd be running now.

.bh.

 

[Lemon law]

Purdue Ry and Zepper do make some points but I for one am somewhat outraged that inkjet technology
is not taken further. Even today, an inkjet is better at photos than lasers, inkjets are certainly at the low end cheaper than lasers, and if truth be told, could be designed to print far cheaper than lasers also.

But no, a grand conspiracy exists by all manufacturers to make the profit be in the ink. In the end, consumer ignorance is what permits this. We consumers have to demand better or accept being hosed.

These forums is where such movements can start.

 

[FordLorider]

Anyone know if they have come out with the chipped tank replacements yet?

 

[Lemon law]

Not when I lasted checked today---don't hold your breath.----they have working on it for at least six months already.----I am guessing its not going to be easy.

 

[Rottie]

I am very lucky to buy ip4000 last week instead of ip4200. I hope I can use non-brand ink replacements.

 

[Zepper]

Rottie,
. Yup, last year's models use generic ink just fine. Swiftink.com has 20% off for Heatware.com members right now - IDK for how long. That's my favorite ink supplier for now.

.bh.

 

[Macro2]

You can use 6 series ink in the ip4200. The photo black and magenta are slightly different though. You can adjust the color with the software if you don't like it. It's subtle.

 

[jadinolf]

This is an education for me. I bought an iP4200 about Thanksgiving time. I don't use refills anyway but it's good to know.

 

[Lemon law]

To jadinolf,

For any that use just OEM cartridges in the the new chipped Canons, its a debate they can somewhat sit on the sidelines uneffected while watching--but on at least on the debate between the relative differences between the ip4000 vs. the ip4200----the ip4200 user pays $2.25 extra per cartridges to buy the chip that rips other people off and gets a silly one ML less ink per cartridges as an added bonus.

Maybe its time to show Canon that consumers don't like getting ripped off. I certainly would not buy a chipped Canon but I am a comparative rarity--a consumer who researches what I buy-----but going past a boycott which isn't working---ideas anyone?

 

[Pepsei]

anyone tried loading the 4000 driver on a 4200? does that make a difference?

 

[Zepper]

Probably not a good idea Pepsei as the 4200 has the 1pL minimum droplet size like the 5000 while the 4000 still had the 2pL min. droplet size.

.bh.