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Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Here is the situation. I live in an apartment that has a lot of elderly people living here. I'm probably the youngest at 39. The guy next door it 75+ and just got home from the hospital after being in for 2 weeks. Some of the residents know I worked with electronics in the past , I helped most of them through the DTV transistion with antennas, etc. So one of them knocks on my door yesterday and ask me to check my neighbors tv. I go and it is an old 19" tv. It is dead, outlet good, checked all the normal stuff. I tell him it is best to get a new tv, this one was made in 1990. He sighs, he doesn't have the money and it will be another month or more before he can afford one, he thanks me anyway, and I leave.

It has been nagging me since yesterday. The man lives alone, no family visits, and without his tv basically just sits looking out his back patio window. I worked for GE/RCA from 1996-2000 as an electrical engineer and worked on designs of many of the sets of the time so I can with about 99% certainty fix his. The issue though is that the old people around here talk, and they talk a lot. I'm afraid to fix his set because if I do I could be bombarded with repair request, people bringing me every little thing that breaks. I'm tender hearted and would probably say yes to people to fix something even if I didn't really want to.

I already have to do about 2-3 visits to homes a week for DTV related stuff. It isn't that I don't want to help , but I also don't want to be the goto guy for everything.
So what would you do, fix the guys tv, or pass on it ?

Take the TV, and tell the owner you know "someone" who's good with electronics who might be able to fix it. Fix it yourself and tell him your "buddy" did it, so you won't get the rep as the repair guy. How's that sound?
 

Mr Smiley

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Oct 12, 2004
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Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: JS80"Hi neighbor, my buddy was throwing this out, and I told him I know someone might be able to use it. It's not much but it's bigger than that 19" you had. Do you want it?" I wouldn't expect OP to "show off" and be like "look I'm a baller I bought you a tv just cuz i can."

Next question?

Won't stop the guy from telling others and soon enough, people will be asking him what else he's throwing away.


I guess what he could do is just put the TV on his doorstep, knock on the door and hide, then deny he was the one who bought it for him if asked.

Yea that's a stretch, and I had a feeling you would come back with it. But you already had the answer I had ready (leave anonymously on doorstep)

I'm not trying to deny the old man a free TV but I've dealt with my share of old people and in some cases, the best solution is to remain completely anonymous if you're going to be generous but want to be left alone.

My experience with old people is completely reversed. I find that they are too stubborn and proud to accept anything from the younger generation.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mr Smiley
Originally posted by: darkxshade
I'm not trying to deny the old man a free TV but I've dealt with my share of old people and in some cases, the best solution is to remain completely anonymous if you're going to be generous but want to be left alone.

My experience with old people is completely reversed. I find that they are too stubborn and proud to accept anything from the younger generation.

I guess that's one difference between Asian and white elders? I know if you tell old asian folk that they're giving out free ____ @ ____, they will swarm there in droves.
 

SuperSix

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Fix it, and tell the codger to keep quiet about it. OR Buy one on CL< and tell him he has to pay you back when he can.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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Why dont you just loan him the money for 1 month and he can pay you back when he finally has the money
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
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I think the fact that you're even willing to help out is great! :thumbsup: to ya.

I agree that if you repair it, like it or not, word will get out, and you may be inundated by requests for repair jobs.

Finding the guy a replacement TV on CL sounds like your best possible choice. Let him pay for it if possible. Most of the oldsters I know (older than me, damn you!) are too proud to just accept the free TV. If money is tight for him as it is for many oldsters, let him make payments to you...(after all, if it's only $20-$50, you're not gonna get stung too badly if he doesn't pay...although if he's like most oldsters, that won't happen.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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Been pondering:

Why can't the OP just fix it at this point? I mean doesn't the fact that he was nice enough to go over to take a look at it enough to get word out. Won't people ask him to come take a look at their broken goods from now anyway whether he's able to fix the old mans TV or not?
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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The way I would structure it is like this:

"Hey, my friend is getting rid of his TV because he's moving - I thought I'd ask if you want it before he throws it out."

That way you let him have the option on what to do. If he says no, you haven't wasted any time or effort. If he says yes, you can give him the (relatively) anonymous gift of a TV. Do not worry about people hounding you for free stuff. It's not going to happen.

Do a nice thing for the guy. I think it's a great idea. :thumbsup:
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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If he is really that old, just dress up in a costume. Knock on his door and say you are the TV fairy. This way, he wont know it was you that gave him the TV and cant tell anyone else.

He'll either forget the episode entirely, or keep it to himself so nobody thinks he is insane.
 

DougK62

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Mar 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: JS80
"Hi neighbor, my buddy was throwing this out, and I told him I know someone might be able to use it. It's not much but it's bigger than that 19" you had.

That's exactly what I would do.

If you want to fix his old one make sure you get something in return so everyone doesn't hound you. If not money, then barter for something. Maybe he can cook.

 

Old Hippie

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"Hi neighbor, my buddy was throwing this out, and I told him I know someone might be able to use it. It's not much but it's bigger than that 19" you had. Do you want it?"

And if you need a tenner to help, I'll be the first in line.

I'm gonna watch this thread but if you wanna do it without advertising, just PM me.
 

rockyct

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Jun 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: JaYp146
Get him a nice/cheap TV via Craigslist for $20.

I vote for this.

I'm quite comfortable with a soldering iron, but fixing a 20 year old TV isn't worth the effort unless it's an obvious cold solder joint or something. There's also the additional danger of the high voltage CRT components. I'm sure you know what to look for, but people have been killed trying to repair their broken TV.

People just want to get rid of their crt TVs on craigslist that they are almost giving them away.
 

Modelworks

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Feb 22, 2007
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Thanks for all the responses. It really did help me to decide. I checked craigs list, but its a rural area and not many prospects close by. So I decided to fix it.
I went over and brought the tv home, told him I couldn't promise anything but would take a look. The set was a really old design, back when they used B+ for everything and the entire board is hot. To those not in the know, B+ supplies in tv are when they convert the AC to straight DC then use the flyback transformer, sort of like a switching power supply used in a pc power supply, not used in later models because it is dangerous to work on, most of the board is at 165VDC+. The flyback transformers solder joints were cracked, so I re-soldered and his tv is now working. There is some slight burn in on the tv because the screen was turned up on the flyback, no idea why, just was. Still it has a good picture for a 20 year old tv.

He was happier than I have seen someone in a long time. He told me we would just keep it between us, but I kind of expect it to get out. Hopefully it won't be too bad with people wanting stuff fixed. I got called over to another apartment when I was coming back to mine from his, lady had a dvd player she couldn't connect to the tv, and so it begins .

 

Rumpltzer

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Jun 7, 2003
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Fix the TV or help him find a decent CRT on Craig's List if it's more cost efficient.

Ask the guy to keep it quiet.

If he blabs, then you're fully within your right to kill him and to continue collecting his Social Security checks.



It's a win-win situation for the OP!
 

Modelworks

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Feb 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: Baked
How are you an EE and live in an apt complex with poor old people? It doesn't make any sense. You should've told everybody in the apt complex you're a janitor so they can all fuck off and leave you alone. When you tell people you know to how fix shit, they'll latch onto you forever.


Sure it does. I like it quiet and I needed a place close to Raleigh but not in Raleigh because of the cost of living there. The apartment serves as a second home. I use it for working, sleep, to save on driving when I do have to go to Raleigh. It is in a small town, 750 people, and the people are friendly. I spend a couple weeks a month here the rest with the family. Sort of like a live in office. If I have to meet a client I drive into the city. I always work from home so I can choose where to be, just can't get work done at home with the family.

 

Rumpltzer

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Thanks for all the responses. It really did help me to decide. I checked craigs list, but its a rural area and not many prospects close by. So I decided to fix it.
I went over and brought the tv home, told him I couldn't promise anything but would take a look. The set was a really old design, back when they used B+ for everything and the entire board is hot. To those not in the know, B+ supplies in tv are when they convert the AC to straight DC then use the flyback transformer, sort of like a switching power supply used in a pc power supply, not used in later models because it is dangerous to work on, most of the board is at 165VDC+. The flyback transformers solder joints were cracked, so I re-soldered and his tv is now working. There is some slight burn in on the tv because the screen was turned up on the flyback, no idea why, just was. Still it has a good picture for a 20 year old tv.

He was happier than I have seen someone in a long time. He told me we would just keep it between us, but I kind of expect it to get out. Hopefully it won't be too bad with people wanting stuff fixed. I got called over to another apartment when I was coming back to mine from his, lady had a dvd player she couldn't connect to the tv, and so it begins .

You're a good guy. Seriously.


If you ever reconsider being a good guy, I think you could probably make a small fortune off the Social Security checks of an entire apartment building. In a small town, who'll notice?

Keep it in mind.



You're a good guy.
 

cirrrocco

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Sep 7, 2004
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tell him you are going to take it to your friend who can fix it. keep the TV for a couple of days and then give it back to him and say he fixed it. But unfotrtunately your friend is also leaving town now.
 

Krazy4Real

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Oct 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Thanks for all the responses. It really did help me to decide. I checked craigs list, but its a rural area and not many prospects close by. So I decided to fix it.
I went over and brought the tv home, told him I couldn't promise anything but would take a look. The set was a really old design, back when they used B+ for everything and the entire board is hot. To those not in the know, B+ supplies in tv are when they convert the AC to straight DC then use the flyback transformer, sort of like a switching power supply used in a pc power supply, not used in later models because it is dangerous to work on, most of the board is at 165VDC+. The flyback transformers solder joints were cracked, so I re-soldered and his tv is now working. There is some slight burn in on the tv because the screen was turned up on the flyback, no idea why, just was. Still it has a good picture for a 20 year old tv.

He was happier than I have seen someone in a long time. He told me we would just keep it between us, but I kind of expect it to get out. Hopefully it won't be too bad with people wanting stuff fixed. I got called over to another apartment when I was coming back to mine from his, lady had a dvd player she couldn't connect to the tv, and so it begins .

Glad to hear you fixed it for him.
 

PricklyPete

Lifer
Sep 17, 2002
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Honestly...buy him a 19" TV that works and "donate it to him" anonymously. Satisfies your desire to help and your reluctance to become the "fix-it" guy.
 

krylon

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Nov 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: Mr Smiley
Originally posted by: darkxshade
I'm not trying to deny the old man a free TV but I've dealt with my share of old people and in some cases, the best solution is to remain completely anonymous if you're going to be generous but want to be left alone.

My experience with old people is completely reversed. I find that they are too stubborn and proud to accept anything from the younger generation.

I guess that's one difference between Asian and white elders? I know if you tell old asian folk that they're giving out free ____ @ ____, they will swarm there in droves.

You give old people free ass?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I love doing support for older folks! They always pay in cash, provide coffee and cookies and, refer you to their friends. What's not to like?
 
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