Can't get XP to install on new SATA hd

txrandom

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I just got a Samsung 400g 3G SATA harddrive off of NewEgg. I hooked the harddrive up to my motherboard and it shows up when I boot up. I try to install Windows XP, but it wont find the harddrive. I tried installing the drivers using F6, but no harddrive is still shown. I also set the CMOS to not use RAID. Can anyone give me some help?

I got a DFI Lanparty NFII Ultra Rev B.
 

txrandom

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No, I thought XP install formatted it for me. Do you have to format it before you try to install it?
 

mechBgon

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Your SATA controller is a third-party RAID controller made by Silicon Image. "Supports RAID 0 and RAID 1" according to DFI. At this point, I would carefully repackage the hard drive, send it back, and get a PATA drive instead, or else get a motherboard with native SATA controllers.

 

txrandom

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Supports four SATA (Serial ATA) interfaces which are compliant with SATA 1.0 specification (1.5Gbps interface).

I thought that meant I'd be able to use a plain old SATA drive without RAID.
 

Steven the Leech

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You may try forcing sata 150 on that drive, there should be a way to place a jumper on 2 pins to accomplish the task. Check out the MF site for details. I had to do it on a MB that didnt support SATA 2, a asrock i think.
 

Paperdoc

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Your Silicon Image SATA controller may support RAID 0 and 1, but that does NOT mean it cannot support SATA. I think you already spotted that, and you say it specifically mentions SATA I at 1.5 GB/s. Probably you need to do two things.

1. Set the drive jumpers to use only SATA I. This usually means installing one jumper on the right pins. MANY drives arrive with this jumper already in place so it will work no matter what. For SATA II you have to remove it. Check the drive's docs.
2. Check your mobo manual, but I would bet you have to install a driver for the Silicon Image controller using the F6 key and a floppy drisk. I think this has to be done EVERY boot-up.

Last idea from a mistake I made. In the mobo BIOS for setting up the Silicon Image controller, you must make sure it is set to NOT do RAID anything. On my mobo (ASUS, not same as yours) there were two options for "Emulated PATA" mode of the SATA drive. There was plain "Emulated PATA" and another, "ACHI", which is a more recent advanced interface system. I chose the new one. Windows XP install could not recognize the drive. After much fiddling it turned out I should have chosen the plain-vanilla "Emulated PATA" option on the controller setup in BIOS.

By the way, the original Windows XP does NOT know what to do with drives over 137 GB. You have to upgrade to SP1 at least (SP2 is the latest) to use larger drives. I believe the way they work is: if you have an XP install disk with SP2 already included, it should be just fine. But if you have the original XP, with or without a separate upgrade disk to add in SP2 after installation, it cannot handle the large drive correctly at the beginning. Maybe others with direct experience here can offer better advice if that is a factor for you.
 

Bozo Galora

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In bios:
SATA SCSI card boot enabled <<<<<<<<very important
SATA enabled in Genie Bios

the bios chip on SI controller will detect single sata and run it as such (jumpered sata1 only)
Normally should just work at install with XP SP2, no F6, legacy mode
The drivers on mobo CD are RAID only
However, failing that.....
I would try latest SI 3114 IDE driver (dont ask)
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/index.aspx?pid=0&cid=0&
http://www.siliconimage.com/docs/3114_x86_win32_base_logo_1205.zip
extract all files to FULLY formatted (even if it says formatted when purchased) floppy NAKED - no folders! Just the files
Do not put floppy in till asked by XP - each time you do it (do not leave in for several tries)
Do not let floppy be in boot order (or set after HDD)
 

JustStarting

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just as above....
In bios:

SATA SCSI card boot enabled <<<<<<<<very important
SATA enabled in Genie Bios

I didn't have any problems installing my 160GB SATA hdd on my DFI NF4. No F6 or anything required. Just set boot device order to Floppy, SATA/SCSI, CDROM, Other.

It's all in the manual man

I think I installed the drivers on the CD as well... they get rid of some question marks under Device manager.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: JustStarting
just as above....
In bios:

SATA SCSI card boot enabled <<<<<<<<very important
SATA enabled in Genie Bios

I didn't have any problems installing my 160GB SATA hdd on my DFI NF4. No F6 or anything required. Just set boot device order to Floppy, SATA/SCSI, CDROM, Other.
If it were an nForce4 motherboard, he'd be golden It's nForce2 with a tacked-on PCI SATA chip.
 

willtriv

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i have the same controller as a secondary raid controller, to work it required i had the latest bios, forcing sata 1 via jumper didnt matter, although it really depends on the drive, seagate seems to be auto fallback while i had to jumper my wd one down. The controller blew as for working as a primary drive controller, i was never able to get the boot loader working on it correctly, i actually had to install on my main sata controller, get it working, move it over the the other sata controller, and setup the boot loader on an old 1gb ide disk to map that drive to grub as the primary. Basically what I'm saying it the bios for the controller blows, and maybe your vendor has a better update but for me, asus didnt have one and the sil im sata can only ever be a secondary controller for file storage disks.
 

Bozo Galora

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well, thats all well and good, and wonderful insight on your part, except for one teensy weensy minor little point -
that mobo has no "main" SATA ports, only the 4 SI
 
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