Can't lose your job as a prison guard even if a murderer escapes

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kranky

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A state prison guard did not inspect trash cans prior to them being hauled out of the prison as he was supposed to. A convicted murderer hid in a trash can and escaped. The guard was fired. The guard fought the decision and the case went to arbitration.

The arbitrator said he believed the guard didn't check the trash cans because he "took the lazy man's way out."

And he ordered the prison to rehire the guard, because they had not fired a guard related to an escape for over 30 years.

I wonder what someone would have to do to lose that job, if this wasn't enough.

Link to story, but all the info is above.
 

GG02

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Thats just fantastic. Perhaps when the escaped convict eventually murders someone else, the guard will receive a write up of some type?
 

oogabooga

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Originally posted by: GG02
Thats just fantastic. Perhaps when the escaped convict eventually murders someone else, the guard will receive a write up of some type?

That would be nice of the guy to write a thank you note.

they did recapture the guy right? They are trying to say he was captured (again) in april of 2008 or am I reading this wrong
The guard, Sgt. Bryan Ruf, was fired in January 2008, two months after 54-year-old Malcolm Kysor escaped by hiding in a prison trash can that was picked up by a farmer collecting food scraps. Mr. Kysor was captured in Bakersfield, Calif., in April.

 

Vette73

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Without knowing the full case I bet the defense put up that others had let people escape and management did not fire them. As such it became the de-facto policy that letting someone escape = something other than being fired.
This sounds like a government run prison. As such we, Gov, have rules. You cannot change them when you feel like. In this case Management and/or HR funked up. They let others keep their job when they did something to let an inmate escape for the past 30years and in this case tried to fire him when that was not practice. As such the policy was that the first time this happens you do not get fired but you get something else and it was noted that in the past 30years no one had been fired for letting someone out. MGT/HR tried to change the policy for this person and that is against the rules as it is unfair to this person.

Example to make it easier. My office has a flex work time. I can come in at 5am to 10am as long as my work gets done and I put in my 9hours. Now this has been the way before I started and it is known. Now say we get a new director or even the old one does this. I come in at 10 am one day and I am told I am being written up and suspended for a month due to not coming in on time which is 8am. I say we have flex time but they say they don?t care I need to help people at 8am. Unless management/HR sent out a notice that the policy of starting time had changed I would win on appeal. If MGT/HR did send out notice and gave a fair time for adjustment, say 1 pay period then they might win.


CLIFFS: Management / HR funked up. Tried to change policy that has been used for 30 years. Person does not lose job as MGT/HR did not do theirs. Don?t blame the system or person but blamce MGT/HR.


<-- I work for the Dept of State doing HR type work. This is very basic info that is why HR/MGT is to blame for him not losing his job.
 

joesmoke

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you just dont get it if they dont offer job safety and other perks they wont get the best talent...
 
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