Cap and Trade Dead

[boomerang]

The fingers are being pointed. Republicans, the Green Lobby, any likely suspect is to blame. But it's an election year and in my opinion Dingy Harry doesn't have the stomach for it.

Senate Democrats Abandon Energy Bill, Reid Cites Lack of GOP Support

Ding, dong, cap and trade is dead!

No Cap and Trade? Form Circle, Start Firing

A link from the WSJ blog. Greenies are hopping mad.

The failed presidency of Barack Obama, Part 1

Maybe now I can be relieved of the burden of knowing my energy bills won't necessarily skyrocket as our dear leader had said. If I had a swimming pool I'd turn the heater up to 80 to celebrate.

 

[Munky]

Good riddance. The very fact that the greenies mentioned the BP oil spill in the same sentence as 9/11 and the Patriot Act further shows their lunacy.

 

[JS80]

how's that hopey changey thingey goingey for ye

 

[woodie1]

One of the few good things to come out of Washington this year.

 

[dmcowen674]

how's that hopey changey thingey goingey for ye

Keeping you guys pissed off so it's going quite well thank you very much

 

[Jaskalas]

Maybe now I can be relieved of the burden of knowing my energy bills won't necessarily skyrocket as our dear leader had said. If I had a swimming pool I'd turn the heater up to 80 to celebrate.

Are you certain? Perhaps he believes the EPA already has the necessary authority to enact Cap and Trade, or other such heavy taxation on energy. Do not surprise yourself to learn that if law cannot be made official, it will be made unofficial.

 

[Zebo]

Keeping you guys pissed off so it's going quite well thank you very much

Fact is The Rich are getting richer under Obama. Everyone but banksters and other well placed “special interests” should be pissed.

 

[Zebo]

If you want to read what a boondoggle this would have been to the ultra richand totally fuck all of you y'all should read Matt Taibbis peace in rolling stone.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/12697/64796

 

[boomerang]

Are you certain? Perhaps he believes the EPA already has the necessary authority to enact Cap and Trade, or other such heavy taxation on energy. Do not surprise yourself to learn that if law cannot be made official, it will be made unofficial.

Yeah, I know. Some of nearly every post I make is for effect. I've also read that the intent is just to postone action on the bill until after the November elections. I know they'll be ramming through everything they can. They're actually quite close to achieving their ultimate goal right now. With a bunch of lame ducks this fall, they could have a rats nest of legislation that will take decades to unravel if it's even possible to do so. One more retirement or death on the SCOTUS and they'll be home free.

The fundamental transformation is almost complete at this point.

 

[manimal]

While cap and trade does have some merits right now is not the time. A jobs bill with some teeth would be nice...

 

[BrownTown]

Thank God, cap and trade is the worst idea ever. Even if you believe in doing something about global warming cap and trade is the worst way to go about it. A carbon tax is fair and easy to administrate. Cap and trade is all about who can lobby the government better for more carbon credits and takes an army of administrators to manage all of the loopholes and forms etc.

 

[boomerang]

Thank God, cap and trade is the worst idea ever. Even if you believe in doing something about global warming cap and trade is the worst way to go about it. A carbon tax is fair and easy to administrate. Cap and trade is all about who can lobby the government better for more carbon credits and takes an army of administrators to manage all of the loopholes and forms etc.

Cap and trade is not about the environment in any way shape or form and never has been. It's about making rich people richer and the global redistribution of wealth. It will have no affect on the environment whatsoever.

China surpassed the U.S. this week in power consumption.

 

[Double Trouble]

Rest assured this is not the last we'll see of that stupid idea (cap & tax). Just like with the health care fiasco, the dems know they don't have the votes right now, they are are just maneuvering things so they can ram it through some other sneaky way.

 

[lothar]

Good.

 

[sandorski]

Fail

 

[bfdd]

If you want to read what a boondoggle this would have been to the ultra richand totally fuck all of you y'all should read Matt Taibbis peace in rolling stone.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/12697/64796

wow thanks for the read, I just finished the first page going to finish it up.

 

[Greenman]

Cap and trade is not about the environment in any way shape or form and never has been. It's about making rich people richer and the global redistribution of wealth. It will have no affect on the environment whatsoever.
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It's so depressing to follow this crap, and so frightening that a lot of people think it a good idea.

 

[Kappo]

It's so depressing to follow this crap, and so frightening that a lot of people think it a good idea.

Stupid people aren't hard to find. Usually, they are easy spot when they are preaching tolerance for how one group of people live while trying to force another group of people to live like them.

 

[yllus]

Thank God, cap and trade is the worst idea ever. Even if you believe in doing something about global warming cap and trade is the worst way to go about it. A carbon tax is fair and easy to administrate. Cap and trade is all about who can lobby the government better for more carbon credits and takes an army of administrators to manage all of the loopholes and forms etc.

Nailed it. Can't think of a worse system than cap and trade.

 

[hal2kilo]

One of the few good things to come out of Washington this year.

Yea, lets just do it like we always do and let big oil and coal write the legislation.

 

[Kappo]

Yea, lets just do it like we always do and let big oil and coal write the legislation.

Why do you prefer one group with no interest for the common good over another?

 

[hal2kilo]

Why do you prefer one group with no interest for the common good over another?

I suspect you wouldn't know what the common good was if it hit you in the backside.

 

[Kappo]

I suspect you wouldn't know what the common good was if it hit you in the backside.

Common liberal deflection. What is more in line with common good?

Killing world economies off further and watching people starve to death? Or being arrogant enough to think that cap and trade had anything to do with the environment? I know you are anti-business (hello, post history), so this kind of uber control mechanism that you THINK would be used to further your agenda is just up your alley.

News flash : it wouldn't - it would just serve to make both sides of the issue even more pissed off.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Great news, glad that there is some hope for America's industries and an employed population that does not have to depend on unemployment checks and wealth redistribution from the government to survive.

 

[hal2kilo]

Great news, glad that there is some hope for America's industries and an employed population that does not have to depend on unemployment checks and wealth redistribution from the government to survive.

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of the United Corporations of America,
And to the replublic for which it stands
Indivisible with liberty and justice for the corporate oligarcy.