Cap and Trade

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: spidey07
It's going to be super close. Those 7 repubs that voted for it might have been the deal breaker, what the hell were they thinking.

210 yea
201 nay
23 votes remaining, 16-7 D-R.

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It's going to pass and it looks like the Rs who voted for it were the difference, otherwise it would not have passed.

We need to find out who they are and tear them a new one.

:laugh:

 

[glenn1]

Originally posted by: dyna
Strangely, it seems to be a regressive tax. Which is normally what democrats try to avoid because it effects their voting base.

So what? I don't have any pretense of caring about poor Democratic constituents, plus we don't have to listen to the progressives b!tch about this issue anymore. Either it will do some good (which I doubt, but could happen) or it'll be ineffective and costly, in which case the Democratic Party will bear this albatross for years to come.

 

[BarrySotero]

I t was expected to pass the House. The Senate was always seen as the hard sell. People are starting to see what a POS this is. Only 24% of voters even knew cap and trade was about environment. Between this economy buster and scam health care senior citizens should make sure they have their cemetery plots picked out.

 

[lupi]

Here's what ya need to know.


---- AYES 219 ---

 

[cubeless]

it'll pass the senate...

the amusing thing will be what other shit will be stuffed into it at the last second like the frank amendments in the house... it's party time...

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
I t was expected to pass the House. The Senate was always seen as the hard sell. People are starting to see what a POS this is. Only 24% of voters even knew cap and trade was about environment. Between this economy buster and scam health care senior citizens should make sure they have their cemetery plots picked out.

Yep, time to start hammering the senators. I was against cap and trade crap before, but this current bill has so much utter government control in it. It's been called the "global warming gestapo" and that sounds about right.

 

[JS80]

Since each individual creates so much carbon they should add into the bill where you can cap and trade your life, i.e. commit suicide and your surviving family gets $xxxx.

 

[Pneumothorax]

Who are the 8 F--tard Repugs that voted for this POS? I can understand liberal dems voting for this steaming pile, but the repubs who voted for this need to be reprimanded as the bill would've died with them voting no.

 

[misle]

Originally posted by: lupi
Here's what ya need to know.


---- AYES 219 ---

Motherfucker. My Republican Rep voted for it. I emailed him Monday and received a very neutral response so I was afraid he might do this.

Time to write him another email letting him know what a fucking retard he is.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: lupi
Here's what ya need to know.


---- AYES 219 ---

Motherfucker. My Republican Rep voted for it. I emailed him Monday and received a very neutral response so I was afraid he might do this.

Time to write him another email letting him know what a fucking retard he is.

I'd love to hear his rationale. Simply nothing good can come from this bill.

 

[Jmman]

Originally posted by: b2386
looking bad for the repubs so far...

looks bad for the repubs? Looks bad for just about everybody, unless you live in a unheated grass hut somewhere......

I personally don't want to pay for this steaming pile of crap legislation.....:evil:

 

[Hecubus2000]

I can't believe this thing passed. This is going to screw us ALL. Enjoy your Change. That is, if you have any left after this thing gets rolling.

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: bamacre
More use of fear to take away freedoms. What's new?

BHO said he wasn't going to use fear though?

CRAP and TAX

Power grab scam. Diverted by Healthcare and MJ's death!

 

[TruePaige]

Hmm..I wonder how all this will turn out.

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: Drako
I just can't believe that this is going to pass through Congress.

You'd think that the politicians would understand how this is going to fuck over most of their constituents. Damn common sense to hell!

Common Sense they check that into the cloak room too. There is nothing new here this is more of the same .

 

[ZeGermans]

I'd happily pay an extra 6% per year in energy bills if this bill actually did anything other than invoke easily met requirements that basically just give companies carte blanch to raise their rates for giggles. Basically this is yet another bill that looks like it's appeasing liberals but in reality just pays off corporations.

 

[ZeGermans]

Global warming deniers are pretty funny folk though

 

[Jmman]

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Global warming deniers are pretty funny folk though

Yep, almost as funny as the folks that think wrecking the economy makes sense for something under the best case scenario might reduce global warming by .1 of one degree, and most likely will have no impact whatsoever......:roll:

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
I'd happily pay an extra 6% per year in energy bills if this bill actually did anything other than invoke easily met requirements that basically just give companies carte blanch to raise their rates for giggles. Basically this is yet another bill that looks like it's appeasing liberals but in reality just pays off corporations.

You think you're paying just 6% on your energy bills? You're dumber than I thought. You'll be paying 6% on EVERYTHING.

Congrats, every working family just got a 6% pay decrease. Well done, Democrats.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: bamacre
More use of fear to take away freedoms. What's new?

Well we can't have our thermostats at 72 degrees and drive anymore. Those days are over. Didn't you get the obamamemo?

I know it. Yesterday, President Obama himself came into my home, ripped our thermostat out of the wall and replaced it with one that won't go above 56 degrees in the winter and below 104 in the summer. When he left, he stole both our cars and said something about a car crusher while laughing maniacally.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: GeezerMan
But Obama said this energy bill is a jobs bill too..........

I know. Its so stupid. Windmills come from windmill seeds. And magically, when those same seeds are applied to coal based power plants, they magically sprout anti-pollution equipment.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: Drako

Originally posted by: sandorski
Carbon is ging to have a Cost.

LOL - better stop breathing, pretty soon the gubments going to start charging you for your gaseous emissions.

I know it. While Obama was fixing my property, he fitted all of us with devices to monitor the gases coming out of our mouths and asses. We had Taco Bell for dinner, so I am dreading the bill next month.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
This bill would have just increased energy prices, adding another load to the economy. Instead I'd like to see them do something to encourage nuclear power. Why not just approve Yucca Mountain for waste storage and get it over with. I'm not all surprised that the Democrats are screwing things up. It's too bad that both of our political parties are rotten.

I'd rather see nuclear waste reprocessing.

 

[Acanthus]

This just made me hate the democratic party as much as the republican party

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
This just made me hate the democratic party as much as the republican party

THe only good thing that can possibly come from this bill is that the douchebags who voted on this will get voted out in droves.