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Fern

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I've watched the video numerous times, I don't see the woman trying to run over police or hit them. All I see is a woman who is panicked and trying to get the heck out of there.

I also see some mighty poor performance. The police had more than enough vehicles surrounding her to have boxed in her in had they parked appropriately. Instead, they left an opening and she took it.

Bad shoot IMO.

Fern
 

LegendKiller

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Mar 5, 2001
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I've watched the video numerous times, I don't see the woman trying to run over police or hit them. All I see is a woman who is panicked and trying to get the heck out of there.

I also see some mighty poor performance. The police had more than enough vehicles surrounding her to have boxed in her in had they parked appropriately. Instead, they left an opening and she took it.

Bad shoot IMO.

Fern

When confronted by police you don't run away unless you are a. insane b. a criminal with intent.

What law-abiding citizen that has normal motives just tries to run through police barricades?

Furthermore, as has been asked many times, how do they know she doesn't have other motives? The car could have been a car bomb for all they knew. That she was running only makes it all that more suspicious and dangerous.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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When she drives around the turnstyle and all the cops follow here and she makes the circle only to emerge with no cops around?

That needs some benny yakity sax music right there. I had it playing in my head for the lulz.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Looks like a garden variety nutjob. http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/politics/u-s-capitol-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

"Carey's boyfriend contacted police in December saying he feared for the safety of their child, who was 4 months old at the time, according to a law enforcement source involved in the investigation. The boyfriend said the woman was acting delusional, claiming the president had placed Stamford under lockdown and that her house was under electronic surveillance, the source said."

Once you understand who owns the media you will understand.

My biggest problem with the story is no one has said what medications she was actually on.

As a reporter, those are facts. It's clear our media is feeding opinions.

I really don't care, I can't fix this. However; I think most of us will feel it if we live another 10-20 years (my bet is less).
 

alkemyst

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When confronted by police you don't run away unless you are a. insane b. a criminal with intent.

What law-abiding citizen that has normal motives just tries to run through police barricades?

Furthermore, as has been asked many times, how do they know she doesn't have other motives? The car could have been a car bomb for all they knew. That she was running only makes it all that more suspicious and dangerous.

She had her baby in the car and they had guns.
 

LegendKiller

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Mar 5, 2001
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She had her baby in the car and they had guns.

So what? Did they know her intentions?

You don't ram shit in the district and then go on a high-speed chase while ramming more shit and then expect them to invite you to dinner.

Did they even know her kid was in the car? Nope. BS argument.
 

spidey07

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Not looking good for libtards. Naval yard shooting has disappeared. This insane liberal went full retard. Police looking like the bad guys.

Not good for the agenda.
 

SheHateMe

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She was Schizophrenic and manic depressive, it seems.

Her family said that she thought Obama was stalking her....they found her meds at her home.
 

irishScott

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She was Schizophrenic and manic depressive, it seems.

Her family said that she thought Obama was stalking her....they found her meds at her home.

So that's two crazies in the last 2 months who thought they were under extreme government surveillance and tried to kill people over it; and they were both fairly stable, or at least non-murderous, for years and went fully nuts only after Snowden's reveal. Fucking NSA.
 
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dank69

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Not looking good for libtards. Naval yard shooting has disappeared. This insane liberal went full retard. Police looking like the bad guys.

Not good for the agenda.
Has it been established that she is a liberal or are you just making assumptions? Seems weird to me since she was paranoid about Obama stalking her.
 

spidey07

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Has it been established that she is a liberal or are you just making assumptions? Seems weird to me since she was paranoid about Obama stalking her.

When the media doesn't report it as some crazy tea bagger, then it is VERY safe to know it's a libtard moonbat. Use some common sense.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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When the media doesn't report it as some crazy tea bagger, then it is VERY safe to know it's a libtard moonbat. Use some common sense.

Made me laugh. Can't help it. It's like watching a drunk fall down a flight of stairs.
 

OCNewbie

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I'm assuming video of the actual shooting still hasn't surfaced? Has there been any eyewitnesses to the shooting that have given their account? Preferably first-hand accounts, not second or third-hand.
 

Oldgamer

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Well there is a major investigation now on the recklessness of the Capital police: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/shooting-at-capitol-debate-fatal-shooting/2013/10/04/a2b38a64-2d26-11e3-b139-029811dbb57f_allComments.html?ctab=all_&

I thought this poster on that news article summed it up best and I quote:
"I am a 25 year military veteran, a strong law and order person, and as conservative as it gets on these reader blogs. But this was NOT law enforcement's finest hour. No city PD would last a week if its officers gunned down citizens and started spraying city streets with bullets just because someone was driving recklessly and crashing into traffic pylons.
The woman hit traffic barriers a block away from the White House and a couple away from the Capitol. No President or legislator was ever threatened or in danger, Then, when her car was immobilized on a median, they shot her dead. This shows an out of control, paramilitary mindset by those whose primary responsibility is protection of govt elites, not public safety. Note that this action was NOT taken by DC's Metro Police, but by Capitol Police and Secret Service.

This is the key takeaway from this incident: An out of control federal security force protecting govt elites at the expense of public safety. Just as they give themselves special treatment for things like Obamacare, they put their safety ahead of all others.

If this type of over-reaction is allowed to continue, how long will it be before demonstrators are gunned down in order to "protect" our legislators? Right or left, surely no one wants to go there"
 
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Please, one shooting of someone driving around like she has a bomb in her back seat instead of a baby doesn't equate to an "out of control federal security force."
 

Matt1970

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I've watched the video numerous times, I don't see the woman trying to run over police or hit them. All I see is a woman who is panicked and trying to get the heck out of there.

I also see some mighty poor performance. The police had more than enough vehicles surrounding her to have boxed in her in had they parked appropriately. Instead, they left an opening and she took it.

Bad shoot IMO.

Fern

This video at 15 seconds shows her driving right at 2 officers. One was off to the side a little bit but the other was right in front of her car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-C0Yui2zJg
 

Moonbeam

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Now that some of the facts are in I can better see what should have happened. I'm just glad I wasn't there when it went down thinking it's better to shoot myself in the head rather than making a bad call that could have cause the forfeit of the life of the President or the Speaker of the House.
 

Nintendesert

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This video at 15 seconds shows her driving right at 2 officers. One was off to the side a little bit but the other was right in front of her car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-C0Yui2zJg



So the fuck what? Reprisal for assaulting police officers isn't summary execution. WTF is wrong with you??


And nice to see Retard the Barbarian making up shit like she might have a bomb, use that ole' she a TEERRROOORRIST to justify any sort of injustice.
 

alkemyst

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have they said the actual two medications she was on yet? This doesn't make sense.
 

OCNewbie

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have they said the actual two medications she was on yet? This doesn't make sense.

Why is that such a critical component? Couldn't they have just made something up, or accessed her records if they were making it all up (that she was on meds)?
 

Moonbeam

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Those cowardly bastards are probably patting themselves on the back for a clean kill. I can't believe that some people actually think this kind of law enforcement behavior is acceptable....they see heroes...but all I see are scum-of-the-earth cowards.

Not me. I feel as sad for the shooter as I do for the family of the woman who was shot. He will have to live his life remembering that the thing he was trying to prevent probably wasn't on the table. I bet also that if a terrorist were driving that car he'd have been a national hero. It makes me sad too that I hear in your post such anger. Makes me what to hug you.
 
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