I have a bad feeling this one is going to suck, much like Spiderman 3 due to the obscene amount of things going on and characters, but...we shall see. If no one dies permanently (besides bucky or other non primary characters), then this movie is pointless and just filler.
I'm a huge marvel buff and I know a lot about it this is to early to make this movie they havnt introduced enough characters or set the stage for it. The civil war storyline was complicated and slightly confusing. So while I think it will be cool its much too early in the storyline to launch this
These things can never be at the same scope of the comic books--just way way way too many characters, backstory, details, and bullshit that simply doesn't translate completely to the film medium.
You're essentially making the argument that several years-worth of multiple comic book storylines (some that go back decades) need to somehow be adequately represented in a 2 hour movie run time? or even 3 movies?
lolno.
It will by nature be very different, because they have already been building up the cinematic universe as something semi-representative but very dilute compared to the comic universe. You shouldn't take these as direct adaptations; as you shouldn't take any novel-to-film adaptation of any content.
It's also a very different audience. You aren't going to see Silver Surfer or Adam Warlock or the real Thanos represented to the LSD-infused complexity that they were in the old Jim Starlin days. Hell, they had to neuter and dumb down the Infinity Gauntlet into some toyish nonsense that will actually allow the Avengers to compete? Bullshit. If this multi-film and multi-year franchise were in any way faithful to that story, it would have begun and ended about 4 years ago: Thanos kills a bunch of people, steals their Infinity Gems...then snaps his fingers and half the universe perishes. ....that is the first comic in that series. The Avengers and various normal superheros (Even Thor, who is considered "a god") were sent up simply as a first wave cannon fodder, and that's exactly what happened.
It's already a joke and going to be a bigger joke in comparison. That, and just throwing in the hokey Celestial beings is just very weird for this type of audience. Are we going to see Celestial Titans recruiting entire systems of planets just to smash them one by one into Thanos in a futile attempt to stop him?
no.
I would pay good money to watch the Celestials take on Thanos like that. The thought of the visuals gives me goose bumps.. and I'm not a FX guy. It's a pity it'll be downgraded to focus more on the Avengers/GotG but maybe there'll be some treats in it.
I also think (and I'm sure I've said it) this movie will be a mess. CW (beyond the pointless stupidity of the books) was a mess due to it's scope. Trying to cram that into 2 hours, even if they try to spread the fallout between the next few movies will be even more of a mess. It really bothers me that we learn nothing from other franchises. Every time the movies attempt to shove too many new characters and stories into a movie the worst it becomes. I can't think of one franchise that has ever worked in.
I would pay good money to watch the Celestials take on Thanos like that. The thought of the visuals gives me goose bumps.. and I'm not a FX guy. It's a pity it'll be downgraded to focus more on the Avengers/GotG but maybe there'll be some treats in it.
I also think (and I'm sure I've said it) this movie will be a mess. CW (beyond the pointless stupidity of the books) was a mess due to it's scope. Trying to cram that into 2 hours, even if they try to spread the fallout between the next few movies will be even more of a mess. It really bothers me that we learn nothing from other franchises. Every time the movies attempt to shove too many new characters and stories into a movie the worst it becomes. I can't think of one franchise that has ever worked in.
Avengers Part 1?
Avengers Part 1?
Avengers 1 was a bit of a mess, but none of that was new at the time. I think only Hawkeye was introduced there, right? (And it's not like anyone cares about Hawkeye.)
I think it was about as good as one can hope for a big, messy and mostly stupid superhero ensemble, but the difference here with the Civil War is that you also have a pretty large plot, involving multiple characters with long backstories that are only now being introduced into this world. It's basically another Avengers movie but now many of them are actually new. It does have that Spidey 3 feel to it.
I think the reason these backstories matter more, here, is because why should we care about some stranger like Black Panther showing up and suddenly taking sides? Who TF is that? Some King that also happens to make metal for Stark Industries....so the fuck what?
Black Panther looking pretty bad ass! Can't wait.
Don't characters come back to life in the comics all the time anyway? It's not like death ever means anything. Comics are so convoluted and ridiculous, it's not like a two hour movie could make things any worse.
Avengers 1 was a bit of a mess, but none of that was new at the time. I think only Hawkeye was introduced there, right? (And it's not like anyone cares about Hawkeye.)
Am I the only that is sick of Marvel movies/TV? I almost fall asleep watching Avengers 2, no plan to watch anything that coming out this year.
Hawkeye was introduced in the first Thor movie.
Anyways, this is going to be an insanely great year for comic book movies. And thats not even counting Deadpool since I havent seen it yet. I like the young Spider-Man and the mechanical web shooters, but one this puzzles me: If Underoos exist in this universe, what heroes did they represent? Cant be DC heroes. I wonder if they started making Underoos after the first Iron Man movie, although I think it would make more sense to have started after the first Avengers movie.
Nope, I am with you. I have lost all interest, at least until Silver Surfer shows up in something again.
KT
At the end of the day, I'm just glad super-hero movies are finally being made.
Whether the movie is epic, or epic failure, I would rather have them in production versus most of the stupid crap that comes out....
Even though BvS looks like the potential for great suckage, I'm stoked to FINALLY see some of the DC heroes other than superman and bat-man on the big screen!
Just remember back in the late 80's- early 90's when it never seemed like it would be possible to have a world where comic book movies were actually taken seriously....
Cosmic Marvel was always kinda dumb I thought. But they had to at least go there eventually. But maybe The Watcher will snap his fingers and make Cap and Bucky BFF's.These things can never be at the same scope of the comic books--just way way way too many characters, backstory, details, and bullshit that simply doesn't translate completely to the film medium.
You're essentially making the argument that several years-worth of multiple comic book storylines (some that go back decades) need to somehow be adequately represented in a 2 hour movie run time? or even 3 movies?
lolno.
It will by nature be very different, because they have already been building up the cinematic universe as something semi-representative but very dilute compared to the comic universe. You shouldn't take these as direct adaptations; as you shouldn't take any novel-to-film adaptation of any content.
It's also a very different audience. You aren't going to see Silver Surfer or Adam Warlock or the real Thanos represented to the LSD-infused complexity that they were in the old Jim Starlin days. Hell, they had to neuter and dumb down the Infinity Gauntlet into some toyish nonsense that will actually allow the Avengers to compete? Bullshit. If this multi-film and multi-year franchise were in any way faithful to that story, it would have begun and ended about 4 years ago: Thanos kills a bunch of people, steals their Infinity Gems...then snaps his fingers and half the universe perishes. ....that is the first comic in that series. The Avengers and various normal superheros (Even Thor, who is considered "a god") were sent up simply as a first wave cannon fodder, and that's exactly what happened.
It's already a joke and going to be a bigger joke in comparison. That, and just throwing in the hokey Celestial beings is just very weird for this type of audience. Are we going to see Celestial Titans recruiting entire systems of planets just to smash them one by one into Thanos in a futile attempt to stop him?
no.