Happy friday everyone and Zinny.
Interesting you took it as 'kids in certain cultures that worship robot people heroes'. Korea doesn't specifically worship robot gundam stuff as a general affinity. I was talking about Iron Man's hero design to boys in general - here in US or Korea. Iron Man suit is bad ass. Mecha genre is just one of the many things kids like. The original Dragon ball HUGE In 80s/90s in East Asia.
US likes the same Power Rangers, Voltron, Thundercats, etc that swept the country in similar times.
I must say, I'm surprised Iron Man was ranked that low when the movie was announced. Since I'm a filthy casual, I didn't even think to run to internet for reaction when Iron Man 1 was announced. All I remember is people were ripping on Robert Downey Jr. understandably (similar to Heath Ledger for Joker).
Thanks for your 'inside comic book' perspective, but in return, you may have lost some perspective of the general audience. It's no brainier Iron Man is attractive as hell as a superhero at a glance than the generic yet-another-chick-in-a-suit-is-she-Supergirl-for-MCU hero?
Speaking of garbage heroes in MCU, I agree- Ant Man? LOL. I remember kids saying even Thor movie was ridiculous since he was a literal god. What about that random ass poor man's Iron Man that I cringe at every time:
You seem pretty passionate about the comic book heroes, thanks for the input. I didn't know Iron Man was laughed at that much when the movie was announced. His design is awesome... he's a literal Inspector Gadget on steroids.
On a related note, doesn't everyone love Iron Man 1? I think it's the BEST modern comic book movie to date:
* SCOPE is kept SMALL. It's not one big CGI fantasy show with one big bad dude that wants to end the world. That really gets tiring and predictable.
* A nice tight plot that covered corporate take over, betrayal, Tony's character development, and becoming Iron Man.
* Interesting 'human' story & nicely tied to modern political issues such as tensions in middle east, arms trading, etc
* Absolutely hilarious and funny. It's funnier than the slapstick style of Deadpool.
I remember when it was a massive hit, RDJ came on Conan or whatever and said, "I texted Gwen and said, we made it bitch."
RDJ is an awesome Iron Man just like Hugh for Wolverine.
I forgot about Logan.That movie is pretty good for what it is, but I am absolutely tired of RDJ and Tony Stark. I'm just waiting for him to be killed and be done with it. I don't need any more Tony Stark snark. It's just old and tired at this point, heh.
For me, it's still Spiderman 2 (Toby) or X-Men 2 as the best super hero movies of this...era? And those aren't Marvel movies. I love Guardians of the Galaxy, though. The first one would be my favorite of these MCU flicks. Other than that, they are all mostly the same movie.
I forgot about Logan.
That one destroyed me. 10/10.
Marvel's bread and butter is mixing comedy with action, and this doesn't look to have any comedy at all. I'll watch it at home some day, but it doesn't look great.
Yeah, Logan was really good. I think it's the best overall use of Wolvie so far. And the concept of someone like Xavier with dementia, and what that means for manifesting his powers, was pretty cool.
I read comics in the 80s and I liked Iron Man, and the Avengers...so, you actually weren't paying attention to the public reaction when the Iron Man movie was announced?
LoL--the character was then and still is a bit of a joke. It was an after-thought in the entire Marvel universe. I understand your argument that the design appeals to certain kids in cultures that worship robot-people heroes, but he was, literally, the most garbage, tossed-aside goon of the Marvel Universe (OK, there were and are some serious garbage street heroes, but when it comes to those Avengers or whatever, Iron Man would be the first to die...especially against real badasses like Thanos. Dude wouldn't even be allowed to plan anything to any kind of shit that mattered on that scale)
Anyhoo, the only reason Iron Man exists in the MCU is business: Marvel sold all of their good properties: Spider-Man and X-Men and FF. By then, all they had was Captain America/ (lol--wtf? what a stupid-ass name) and some Iron Man dude that no one really heard of...OK, outside of your Capcom game--yes, I was familiar with this game, but only because like everyone else, I always played X-MEN characters and MAGNETO when possible. Avengers are garbage. Everyone knows that shit. Marvel had no choice and gambled hard on making their only desperate move to save and restore their identity by building around a roundly pissant loser of a no-name hero called Iron Man (consider that characters like Batman and Superman have culture presence and acceptance...a near-century of relevance in the public mind...Iron Man? lol). That is actually cool, and respect for it for Marvel, because the gamble obviously = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. So, yeah. baller.
The fact remains that no one gave a fuck about an unknown "Iron Man" at the time, so I remain confused why you are complaining about Capt Marvel when the same business issues complicate Marvel's story (they only recently re-acquired Silver Surfer--the only hero, next to Dr Strange, really, capable of providing any real competition against Thanos...pre--IG, anyway...but regardless, too late to weave him in to the story). So: Capt Marvel, a property they have actually been working on for about 2 decades, IIRC. (the modern version, anyway)
I read comics in the 80s and I liked Iron Man, and the Avengers...
Those weren't even a thing in the 80s, and I never cosplayed as Iron ManThey laughed at you at all the cosplay parties, didn't they?
Those weren't even a thing in the 80s, and I never cosplayed as Iron Man
I did make my own Link costume back in like 1990, and no one knew what it was...
Pretty sure there aren't any. My Mickey Mouse 110 camera did not have a self timerPics?
So why is she such a big deal to dedicate a solo movie for it? She just seems boring and vanilla as fack. At least bland ass Capt America got a cool shield. Capt Marvel got... nothing.
There must be fackton of better interesting young strong woman superheroes in MCU.
Why make a movie out of her out of tons more popular/interesting/cooler superheroes?
She's going to save the Avengers from Thanos!
I was stoked for iron man. Even I recognized him from avengers beat em up game in 90s in korea. And marvel vs capcom 3 (although it was war machine).
Iron man screams appeal to any kid who sees him at a glance- a flying mecha suit armor with rockets, lasers, and that bad ass mask.
I had never heard of Capt marvel nor saw them in any games or anywhere outside of comic books.
And her design tells nothing about her at a glance. I was like, what does she do?
Coworker saw it and ranted how it was a left wing sjw movie, gave it a 5/10
Apparently hated some scene where a father is reunited with his kid?
Yeah i dunno...said that scene was the thing he hated mostReally? While the scene added little, it was one of the least offensive parts of the movie... and I nitpick the shit of out them.