Car busted (piston shot out the side of the engine)

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five40

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Originally posted by: BUTCH1
Originally posted by: eplebnista
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That's what I was thinking too, also OP doesn't state if he was driving@ normal Hwy. speeds
or trying to race a Mustang GT when it happened.

I was going normal highway speed at the time(70mph)...in chicago limit is 55mph but no one does that speed.
 

five40

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
First off, your dealer did not make it, and they did not break it. Therefore, any thoughts of liablility go out the window, as far as they are concerned.
Next step, go after the warranty. Oh, you are expired, I see.

Did you know that an extended warranty would have paid for this problem, had you bought a 7yr / 100,000 plan? Oh, I almost forgot, it's a Toyota, and they never break.

At the time, the extended warranty was 5yr/60k which I did purchase. It did cover a couple of things that break. Any manufacturer is going to make lemons, it's just which ones make the least lemonade, and most of the time toyota makes the least lemonade.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
First off, your dealer did not make it, and they did not break it. Therefore, any thoughts of liablility go out the window, as far as they are concerned.
Next step, go after the warranty. Oh, you are expired, I see.

Did you know that an extended warranty would have paid for this problem, had you bought a 7yr / 100,000 plan? Oh, I almost forgot, it's a Toyota, and they never break.

At the time, the extended warranty was 5yr/60k which I did purchase. It did cover a couple of things that break. Any manufacturer is going to make lemons, it's just which ones make the least lemonade, and most of the time toyota makes the least lemonade.

:thumbsup:

At least you have a clear head and aren't like, "OMGWTFBBQ TOYOTA SUCKS!!!!!!111oneone".
 

SearchMaster

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
First off, your dealer did not make it, and they did not break it. Therefore, any thoughts of liablility go out the window, as far as they are concerned.
Next step, go after the warranty. Oh, you are expired, I see.

Did you know that an extended warranty would have paid for this problem, had you bought a 7yr / 100,000 plan? Oh, I almost forgot, it's a Toyota, and they never break.

At the time, the extended warranty was 5yr/60k which I did purchase. It did cover a couple of things that break. Any manufacturer is going to make lemons, it's just which ones make the least lemonade, and most of the time toyota makes the least lemonade.

:thumbsup:

At least you have a clear head and aren't like, "OMGWTFBBQ TOYOTA SUCKS!!!!!!111oneone".

Says the man with the Toyota that also threw a rod
 

iamwiz82

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If this was a domestic people would be up in arms screaming how it's typical American junk.
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
If this was a domestic people would be up in arms screaming how it's typical American junk.
I hear ya. I think the imports put something in the air vents that's some form of mind-control. No matter how much goes wrong, breaks, etc., it's still a great car and far better than domestic.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: SearchMaster
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
First off, your dealer did not make it, and they did not break it. Therefore, any thoughts of liablility go out the window, as far as they are concerned.
Next step, go after the warranty. Oh, you are expired, I see.

Did you know that an extended warranty would have paid for this problem, had you bought a 7yr / 100,000 plan? Oh, I almost forgot, it's a Toyota, and they never break.

At the time, the extended warranty was 5yr/60k which I did purchase. It did cover a couple of things that break. Any manufacturer is going to make lemons, it's just which ones make the least lemonade, and most of the time toyota makes the least lemonade.

:thumbsup:

At least you have a clear head and aren't like, "OMGWTFBBQ TOYOTA SUCKS!!!!!!111oneone".

Says the man with the Toyota that also threw a rod
What? lol

 

five40

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
If this was a domestic people would be up in arms screaming how it's typical American junk.
I hear ya. I think the imports put something in the air vents that's some form of mind-control. No matter how much goes wrong, breaks, etc., it's still a great car and far better than domestic.

For me it's been good track record. In my family there has been 10+ toyotas that have all lasted 150k+. Parents, sister, wife, etc... and this is the first one that has had major problems. If I had a great track record with domestics I'd be buying those.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
People still fall for that 3k miles/3month scam?


Bwahaha.

? Not sure what you mean by that. I probably don't change my oil often enough...more like every 4.5-5 months since I only drive about 600 miles/mon.

That's more than enough.

As for the engine failure...IMHO something had to have gone wrong for it to fail at 77k. IMHO any car worth buying should last to at least 200k. Using different oil wouldn't have caused it, but it makes me wonder if they did anything else while they were under the hood.

Originally posted by: Greenman
or perhaps Toyota's engines just don't last that long. (Never owned a Toyota)

Heh. Quite the opposite.

Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
If this was a domestic people would be up in arms screaming how it's typical American junk.
I hear ya. I think the imports put something in the air vents that's some form of mind-control. No matter how much goes wrong, breaks, etc., it's still a great car and far better than domestic.

It's true that people knock on domestics, but I don't think anyone here is claiming that the OP is lying, that Toyotas never break, and so on. Toyotas have a good track record because, for the most part, they make good cars...but they're certainly not bulletproof, and it sounds like this one was a dud.
 

Eli

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I'm betting that he drives like a granny. If he had a lead foot, it probably would have chucked its rod at him several tens of thousands of miles ago.

Assuming it was indeed a manufacturing defect. It probably spun a bearing or something.
 

Regs

Lifer
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My toyota camry ran without oil for at least 6 months before blowing the piston into the crankshaft.

Though I think I was running slick 50 too.

Though I don't know how the wrong oil could blow a rod like that in such short time. Not unless it was 1 part oil and 10,000 parts water.
 

Gamingphreek

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OP where did the rod shoot through the engine block? If it shot through into where the Oil Pan is (And the hole isn't giant), then it is possible for someone to replace the oil pan and weld a patch where the hole is (Cut a circle and then weld an equally sized circle in its place). After that all that would need to be done is replace the piston rod.

My Toyota Pickup threw a rod (My fault) when I was off-roading (Initial blast of water in the engine) and because of the placement (No pressure above or below where the hole is we are planning on getting someone to weld a patch for us. (It's a shame I have no place to work on this, because I would love to bring the ol' girl back to life myself- though I have little-no experience welding).

Different oil wouldn't have done this, it must have leaked out somehow (Normally if you are low on oil the engine will seize before it comes to this- you must have had her at a mid-high RPM for it to snap the rod).

If the hole is too big or at a bad location- you can buy a new engine block and essentially rebuild the engine, but you would probably be better off just getting a new engine all together (By new I mean from a junk yard or elsewhere).

-Kevin
 

IGBT

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Originally posted by: zoiks
I thought Toyota's run forever.


..big Tundra(Tuba) recall ongoing. Their 5.7L v8 is chewing up cam shafts. All 30K of em have to be replaced.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Regs
My toyota camry ran without oil for at least 6 months before blowing the piston into the crankshaft.

Though I think I was running slick 50 too.

Though I don't know how the wrong oil could blow a rod like that in such short time. Not unless it was 1 part oil and 10,000 parts water.

It may have been running with a dry dipstick, but it wasn't running "without oil."

FWIW Slick 50 is snake oil BTW
 

jtvang125

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My friend blow out the motor in 2 cars (piston shot out of one and the engine just sieged on the other). Both times he was driving the car like he stole it so there may be more to this story than what the OP is telling.
 

marincounty

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Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: zoiks
I thought Toyota's run forever.


..big Tundra(Tuba) recall ongoing. Their 5.7L v8 is chewing up cam shafts. All 30K of em have to be replaced.

I can't find any links to a Tundra recall over camshafts. I see that the Detroit Free press thinks they are going to have a recall because of 20 broken camshafts out of 30,000 engines. In cases where a Tundra camshaft fails, Toyota is replacing the engine at no charge. Toyota says it was an early batch provided by a supplier and Toyota is "confident in the production from that point on."

I realize you are a Toyota hater but you need to do better than that.
 

Greenman

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Originally posted by: five40
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
If this was a domestic people would be up in arms screaming how it's typical American junk.
I hear ya. I think the imports put something in the air vents that's some form of mind-control. No matter how much goes wrong, breaks, etc., it's still a great car and far better than domestic.

For me it's been good track record. In my family there has been 10+ toyotas that have all lasted 150k+. Parents, sister, wife, etc... and this is the first one that has had major problems. If I had a great track record with domestics I'd be buying those.

150K is not lasting a long time. I've never owned a car that didn't hit 250k.
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: zoiks
I thought Toyota's run forever.


..big Tundra(Tuba) recall ongoing. Their 5.7L v8 is chewing up cam shafts. All 30K of em have to be replaced.

I can't find any links to a Tundra recall over camshafts. I see that the Detroit Free press thinks they are going to have a recall because of 20 broken camshafts out of 30,000 engines. In cases where a Tundra camshaft fails, Toyota is replacing the engine at no charge. Toyota says it was an early batch provided by a supplier and Toyota is "confident in the production from that point on."

I realize you are a Toyota hater but you need to do better than that.

I have heard absolutely nothing about a recall. Prove it IGBT.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jagec

It may have been running with a dry dipstick, but it wasn't running "without oil."

FWIW Slick 50 is snake oil BTW

Hah.. I remember that quality time with good ol' dad.

Me: "Hey..dad...my car just stopped on the road"

Dad Pulls up on side the road. First thing he checks was the dip stick. Dust blows off of it

Dad: "I found your problem. You got no oil"

Dad slams fist on the front bumper
 

five40

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Originally posted by: jtvang125
My friend blow out the motor in 2 cars (piston shot out of one and the engine just sieged on the other). Both times he was driving the car like he stole it so there may be more to this story than what the OP is telling.

If I had been driving like a bat out of hell I would have mentioned that. I was cruising down the highway at 70mph. If I had been driving like a maniac there would have at least been a reason for a piston shooting out the side of my engine.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: zoiks
I thought Toyota's run forever.


..big Tundra(Tuba) recall ongoing. Their 5.7L v8 is chewing up cam shafts. All 30K of em have to be replaced.

I can't find any links to a Tundra recall over camshafts. I see that the Detroit Free press thinks they are going to have a recall because of 20 broken camshafts out of 30,000 engines. In cases where a Tundra camshaft fails, Toyota is replacing the engine at no charge. Toyota says it was an early batch provided by a supplier and Toyota is "confident in the production from that point on."

I realize you are a Toyota hater but you need to do better than that.

I have heard absolutely nothing about a recall. Prove it IGBT.

Just because Toyota hasn't recalled them yet doesn't mean they won't. I'm sure it won't matter to you, being fanboys and all, but doing a search for "tundra camshafts" yields a lot of negative publicity. The ONLY reason they haven't yet is the estiamted $150 million bill.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: five40
updated the original post

WTF, two months for a Prius? We got one a few weeks ago and had zero wait. We contacted the dealer on Wednesday, flew down there an picked up the car on Saturday, and we paid way under invoice.
 
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