I drove the car to the dealership, so it was already warm. Also, I only paid for an oil change and the checklist reflects that they performed exactly zero of the services you mentioned. Got anything else?
"Sir, as part of the high standard of sevice provided by our factory trained technicians we make sure to test drive every vehicle to bring the engine up to normal operating temperature before replacing vital fluids. This guarantees that more of the engine damaging contaminants are drained away before being replaced with the premium lubricants we provide. Additionally, as part of our commitment to serving our valued customers, we perform a multi-point inspection during the test drive to ensure the continued high performance of your vehicles steering, acceleration and braking systems. We assure you that all of the work our technicians performed exceeded industry standards and will extend the life of your investment."
That is a rather specific number, too. 7.7mph.
Good cutoff point. I guess 7.6 wasn't statistically significant?
They're protecting their investment, and they want to be sure that you aren't going to do anything crazy, like make use of the service you're paying them for.
It gets kind of weird when a company can say "There's a 98% chance that you're going to do X," and then they try to make sure that your behavior will fall into that model, and make money off it if they can. It can get creepy pretty quickly.
Did you post that so you could work in the term "porte cochere"?
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I drove the car to the dealership, so it was already warm. Also, I only paid for an oil change and the checklist reflects that they performed exactly zero of the services you mentioned. Got anything else?
Apparently.
But driving it at all after an oil change seems out there to me.
"Please enjoy this coupon for 15% off your next service. Have a nice day!"
Hmm, they could have had it on a roller brake tester (ha!), or, they just needed lunch.
I wonder if you have GPS history, and you could map out where they went ?
Another reason to change your own oil?
OP, please consider posting a video of your face to face with the rep from the service dept.
No, it was more just amusing. Yes, I know there's going to be a cutoff at the 3-sigma or whatever line. It still results in some entertaining delineations in the real world.Are you suggesting that a distribution should always delineate two groups at a whole number? Are you aware of how distributions work? I don't understand what you're implying, but the result is the output of a model and I don't see why any other number would be any different.
Yes, the investment is the people - they're only profitable if they don't do things like make claims. Hence you get a strong, and sometimes overzealous, push within the insurance company to reject claims.I have no idea who you are talking to or what you're talking about. Edit: do you mean car insurance when you say service? If so, this still makes no sense. They're offering you a discount if you drive safely. You have the insurance for a plethora of reasons, only one of which is an accident caused by you. How you managed to spin an optional discount added onto already competitive rates into a bad thing is beyond me.
Perspective. Whatever they want to call it, a discount or not, it's still tiered pricing based on behavior.They don't charge more if you drive like an asshole based on the results of the logs collected by the device. It can only help you, so your point isn't valid. This also isn't creepy at all because you have to opt into the service. I let them collect the data and I'm fully aware of what it's doing. Also, they aren't making anyone fit into any behavior. They collected shitloads of data and determined that people who accelerate and brake rapidly are involved in more accidents and the model spit out 7.7 mph as a breakpoint. There's no voodoo involved here.
They can sure encourage it though.Also, they aren't making anyone fit into any behavior.
Yes, the investment is the people - they're only profitable if they don't do things like make claims. Hence you get a strong, and sometimes overzealous, push within the insurance company to reject claims.
I guess I don't like the bit about them having a device in your car to keep a closer eye on you (opt-in, I know). Same with some health insurance companies having people wear pedometers. How far does it keep going? When does it stop? Testing of reaction time? Monitoring daily caloric intake?
Perspective. Whatever they want to call it, a discount or not, it's still tiered pricing based on behavior.
Like the Simpsons thing: A tax increase is a refund adjustment.
The baseline pricing is the price with the safe driving, though it's called a refunded rate, and then there's an addon for anything that they don't deem to be safe. Perspective.
Yes, it's opt-in. I can't help but wonder, with the exceptional amount of influence that large companies have in government, how long that will remain true.
They can sure encourage it though.
"Use this monitoring device and your bill will go down by 10%. If you do X, you don't get that."
People can be quite pliable if you know how to do it. Waving money at someone often does wonders.
My old 07 mazda 3 has a giant splash guard that has 12 bolts and the cutout for the oil drain/filter is mis aligned by about 6 inches. Beyond that it is bmw style oil filter thats located UNDER the car. personally changed it once. the rest the grease monkeys can do it.
$40-60 at a local "quick lube" garage where im in and out in less than 30m is well worth it for me.
way more involved my truck and suv where i just trow a pan under it and popping the quick plugs.
The number of times someone will pull out from a freeway exit that has a traffic line-up (literally stop and go at 0 mph) and someone decides to jump out of the line-up into the rest of the freeway going 70mph in Houston is seen every single day. I see and hear break stomps / tire spin-outs weekly from that shit. Why the fuck would I put a device in my car and expect that to not happen to me?
Fucking retarded.
What vehicle do you drive, a Honda ___?
2014 Accord
I drive through Houston occasionally and I've never had this experience, but I also don't drive in the lane adjacent to the on/off ramps. This shouldn't be happening to you every day and, if it is, you're probably a high-risk driver. That's pretty much the entire point of the metric. You aren't the only person driving in rush hour traffic, yet the average driver experiences only one of these events every three to four weeks.
You obviously haven't driven around during rush hour then....
Also, it isn't happening to me, I said I SEE it. Anytime you see it, there is a damn good chance you could have been involved.
I'm with you, but don't you think your letting this effect your day a bit much , just give your insurance the invoice to show they had the car.
And do your own oil change, unless it's a lease.
This is really not worth getting bent out of shape about.