Car salespeople

FP

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I was watching King of Cars on A&E about the dealership in Las Vegas (Dodge I think) and they had a competition to see which salesperson would become the next team lead. The show said that the position would include a $65,000 RAISE just for becoming a team lead. That surprised me.

I did some research and according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics car salespeople earned a median salary of about $39,000 in 2005. Anyone done it? If so was the show inflating the numbers a tad?
 

S Freud

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I'm pretty sure that most places work on sales. You have to make sales to make money, though I know a few places get paid hourly.
 

slurmsmackenzie

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Originally posted by: S Freud
I'm pretty sure that most places work on sales. You have to make sales to make money, though I know a few places get paid hourly.

i knew a guy that ate it hard (not) selling cars. he was paid minimum wage through his training period and once he was allowed to sell and made a sale, his commission went to paying off his "debt" of being paid while training. go too far in the red (which he did) and you lose your job. i'm sure if you can work long hours, take the time to get to know what your selling, and read people and react, then you can make a pretty penny, otherwise it's a pretty ****** job.

 

doze

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A good car salesman who has been at the same place for years can easily make 6 figures due to repeat business. New salesman can make 50~60K after a year or so. In many cases used car salesman can make more $$$ than new car salesman too due to greater flexibility with price. I have friends and coworkers who have sold cars but most either quit (due to the long hours and inconsistent pay) or got fired (due to lack of sales) within the first 6 months or so.
 

LS20

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BLS is a more reliable source than any.
i believe 40k is average

that said, there is a very wide RANGE of salarys.. and top salespeople, especially those selling higher prestige cars, can make up to 6fig and beyond
 

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mugs

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computerwiz1 sells cars I think. My brother started selling cars a couple of years ago, then he became a finance manager, now he manages a small dealership. He seems to make decent money, but I think he has always exaggerated how much he makes so who knows. I think he makes ~$90k a year.
 

KarmaPolice

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sounds like its a pretty good job. besides the in consistent pay I cant imagine its THAT stressful of a job. So if you budget you money correctly and are able to take the low times in pay doesn't sound like a bad gig.
 
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Well the money you make will be sucked up when you buy the hair gel and a tone of cheap suits. I will say that the Chevy dealer where I got my truck had a good sales man. We didn't dick around about the price and rebates. After 5 minutes I was ready to buy seeing as how I got $6000 off of my truck quickly. (It also helps that it was right before kick off for monday night football with the Cowboys)
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
sounds like its a pretty good job. besides the in consistent pay I cant imagine its THAT stressful of a job. So if you budget you money correctly and are able to take the low times in pay doesn't sound like a bad gig.

I would say that it's dealer dependent. It's a sales job. They are inheriently performance based. You don't sell. You don't stay. The dealership sets a standard that you have to meet. Plus they may force you into making offers that are horrible for the buyer. That in itself increases the stress.

If you can sleep fine at night knowing that you just weaseled an extra $4,000 out of an old lady. Fine.

If you can't, it's not that easy of a job.
 

Vic

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They can make anywhere from nothing (or minimum wage) to a tidy 6 figures.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
sounds like its a pretty good job. besides the in consistent pay I cant imagine its THAT stressful of a job. So if you budget you money correctly and are able to take the low times in pay doesn't sound like a bad gig.

I would say that it's dealer dependent. It's a sales job. They are inheriently performance based. You don't sell. You don't stay. The dealership sets a standard that you have to meet. Plus they may force you into making offers that are horrible for the buyer. That in itself increases the stress.

If you can sleep fine at night knowing that you just weaseled an extra $4,000 out of an old lady. Fine.

If you can't, it's not that easy of a job.

I suppose that is true..but i dont know aboutyou guys but when i go shopping i buy from the guy that isn't trying to sell me ****** stories and is just telling me how it is.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
sounds like its a pretty good job. besides the in consistent pay I cant imagine its THAT stressful of a job. So if you budget you money correctly and are able to take the low times in pay doesn't sound like a bad gig.

I would say that it's dealer dependent. It's a sales job. They are inheriently performance based. You don't sell. You don't stay. The dealership sets a standard that you have to meet. Plus they may force you into making offers that are horrible for the buyer. That in itself increases the stress.

If you can sleep fine at night knowing that you just weaseled an extra $4,000 out of an old lady. Fine.

If you can't, it's not that easy of a job.

I'm sorry... did you just say that you work for free?

Salespeople just happen to be more familiar with where their income comes from as opposed to other professions. That is all.

The Pareto principle (80/20 rule) dominates sales professions. You have an 80% chance every time you work with a salesperson that he is a loser. OTOH, when you work with one of the top 20%, you won't care what he's getting paid, while he does so much business (and will want your repeat business plus your referrals) that he won't want to stroke you.
 

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Selling Hondas in Phoenix for the year and a half that I did, I made just under $225,000 (I predominantly sold new cars, but was able to sell used as well).

Anyone who thinks car sales isn't stressful has never sold. Sales is easy, yes, but we're not talking mice here..we're talking about stuff that range from $10k to $100k...it can be akin to buying a house, and from both standpoints, it can be a serious headache (settle on price/payments, work through finance, get stips, get down payment, trade evaluations, and the list goes on).
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: KarmaPolice
sounds like its a pretty good job. besides the in consistent pay I cant imagine its THAT stressful of a job. So if you budget you money correctly and are able to take the low times in pay doesn't sound like a bad gig.

I would say that it's dealer dependent. It's a sales job. They are inheriently performance based. You don't sell. You don't stay. The dealership sets a standard that you have to meet. Plus they may force you into making offers that are horrible for the buyer. That in itself increases the stress.

If you can sleep fine at night knowing that you just weaseled an extra $4,000 out of an old lady. Fine.

If you can't, it's not that easy of a job.

I'm sorry... did you just say that you work for free?

Salespeople just happen to be more familiar with where their income comes from as opposed to other professions. That is all.

The Pareto principle (80/20 rule) dominates sales professions. You have an 80% chance every time you work with a salesperson that he is a loser. OTOH, when you work with one of the top 20%, you won't care what he's getting paid, while he does so much business (and will want your repeat business plus your referrals) that he won't want to stroke you.

Oh yes, that's totally what I said :roll:

Profit isn't a crime, but car sales is a market where you can easily fleece people to pad your wallet. Being in a sales oriented industry yourself, you have a bit of a bias twords the profession.
 

funboy6942

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I used to do it for My fathers lot and for dealerships. Doing it for my father was cake walk and I made a lot of money at it. Working for a dealership however for some can be very stressful. Your manager is always going to be on your ass, you will always have a quota to meet, and you have to have the gift of gab. If you dont have the gift of gab you can forget making money in the field. You need to be able to make sure you are the alpha male in every situation and can take control every conversation that pops up, make sh1t up on the spot, and make it sound as though you know what your talking about when you have no clue.

If you can do that you will make a great car sales person, I can do that, I was able to work the car lots against them. I would tell my customers of the car lots scam and what I was supposed to do to them, gain their trust, I would then have their trust find out what they wanted to pay and work my sales manager. I would come back and tell my customer I want you to point, shake your head, stand up as though your going to leave but sit back down. We would play the sales and finance team like this for about 30 minutes making them think they wont budge till I got them the numbers they came in looking for or damn close and made a sale. NONE of the dealerships I worked for caught on I was doing this to them, I made quite a bit of money at times. But it is also luck of who shows up on the lots as well. But after a few years of it you will get burnt up doing it. I found I liked working the service end and went into management in that field.

Again, you need to be able to sell a ice cube to a Eskimo, and spit on the customers and make them believe it is raining on them even though they can see your spitting if your going into the car sales field.

As for making money there are several way. Most of the time used is where most of it is at, but if your lot has tons of new cars that have been on the lot too long (few months) they will do spiffs and spins (fancy way of saying bonus). Can be as mush as $100-$2000 and those are the cars you try to push on a customer first when they are looking for new. A dealership will get punished from the manufacture for having too many new cars on the lot, and too many new cars sitting too long. Used cars your money is made based on how much they got the trade for, minus any work done to it, prep work, shop fees, and whats left you will get 19-29% of the profit. If they have a lot wrapped up in the trade, and it needed work you may not make noting but the bonus attached to it which could be $50.

But dont take me wrong it can be fun if you like being yelled at all the time, fast pace atmosphere, cold calling ups, and trying to shaft your customers. My suggestion to you is do what I did if your given the chance with your own office where the big bosses cant hear what your saying. Worked wonders for me.
 

dainthomas

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The seventh circle of hell is reserved for traitors, realtors, and car salesman.

I don't think I need all the bad karma a job like that would bring.
 

Dr. Detroit

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
The seventh circle of hell is reserved for traitors, realtors, and car salesman.


Where do attorneys fall into this circle theory of yours


Most car sales take place nights or weekends, like most any sales job you have to be prepared to work the hours your customers are available. That in itself sucks.


 
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