CAREER CHOICES: College grad....

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
You can believe what you want, but a big box store director and his immediate underlings are making more than you. Sorry to tell you that.

Don't assume what I make, you'll be made a fool out of.

One of my pet peeves are people who overestimate other people salaries, that's all. It kind of gets annoying.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
You can believe what you want, but a big box store director and his immediate underlings are making more than you. Sorry to tell you that.

Don't assume what I make, you'll be made a fool out of.

One of my pet peeves are people who overestimate other people salaries, that's all. It kind of gets annoying.

The OP, has and entry level assistant management position offer for $51k.

Continue to think I am over estimating what a Wal Mart/Big Box store director and his immediate underlings make. Continue to look down upon them.

 

[magomago]

the way i see it...

its all about the potential to advance.

what you make exactly right now will be nothing later on (hopefully!).

So take the job that you can use more to your advantage. build a skill set that you are interested in.

If you get 51K but no room for advancement....that is pretty much the end of the road. If you get 38K BUT you get room to advance - well then that already has a great potential!

But potential doesn't have to be just in the company. If that 51K job will give you better experience so that when you look for other jobs you are more marketable, then you might want to consider that instead.

Just make sure whatever job you have there is something worthful out of it that will build up your own "portfolio" so to say...

I'll take the 25K job that lets me do pure design engineering than the 50K job doing nothing...because once i get 2 years of experience or so then I will go elsewhere and demand atleast 3 times that because I would have had VERY good experience within the field...experience that is not easily attainable

hope it works well for you

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
The OP, has and entry level assistant management position offer for $51k.

Continue to think I am over estimating what a Wal Mart/Big Box store director and his immediate underlings make. Continue to look down upon them.

Ok ok, that figure probably takes into account stock matching, healthcare, and other benefits. It's not a "$51k cash" salary. I suppose if you include ALL those other things, you could touch $100k for a head-honcho of each store.

But the thing to remember when you hear "alleged" high salaries, if the pay was so great, others would be rushing to do it. The market balances salaries out and it's very competitive out there. That's why I'm skeptic of some people's salaries.

 

[arkcom]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
No I am talking about the upper management IN the stores.

Don't overestimate people's salaries, I see a lot of people do that. I don't believe they make that much.

I met one guy who was absolutely convinced plumbers make $200k/year. Ok, so there might be one, but it does not apply to all, or even most. People don't make as much as some think they do.

I would almost bet that a lot do. Plumbers around my area (low paid Arkansas) get $100 an hour. You would only have to work 20 hours a week to make 200k.

As for the op, I would go with the HR position. If you go the manager route, you will never work 45 hours a week. It will probably be more like 60 or more, you won't get compensated for your extra effort either.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: arkcom
I would almost bet that a lot do. Plumbers around my area (low paid Arkansas) get $100 and hour. You would only have to work 20 hours a week to make 200k.

They don't, trust me, I've checked. People hear a figure and they don't take into account other things.

Most lawyers and doctors don't even make that much.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
The OP, has and entry level assistant management position offer for $51k.

Continue to think I am over estimating what a Wal Mart/Big Box store director and his immediate underlings make. Continue to look down upon them.

Ok ok, that figure probably takes into account stock matching, healthcare, and other benefits. It's not a "$51k cash" salary. I suppose if you include ALL those other things, you could touch $100k for a head-honcho of each store.

But the thing to remember when you hear "alleged" high salaries, if the pay was so great, others would be rushing to do it. The market balances salaries out and it's very competitive out there. That's why I'm skeptic of some people's salaries.

The avg salary for a Wal Mart Store manager who is male is $105k + benefits, unfortunately for women Wally world is sexist and the avg salary for a female store manager is $85k + benefits. People dont rush to do it because its not a pleasent job. Retail is not a pleasent job period, being responsible for an entire store, is beyond unpleasent.

Honestly I dont think you have any idea what their job entails or the experiance and years required to obtain a store manger positon.

 

[arkcom]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: arkcom
I would almost bet that a lot do. Plumbers around my area (low paid Arkansas) get $100 and hour. You would only have to work 20 hours a week to make 200k.

They don't, trust me, I've checked. People hear a figure and they don't take into account other things.

Most lawyers and doctors don't even make that much.

7 of the top 10 highest paying careers are doctors.
Link
I'm sure none of them work 2000 hours a year.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: arkcom
7 of the top 10 highest paying careers ar doctors.
Link
I'm sure none of them work 2000 hours a year.

Exactly, and even most of them don't make $200k, so how could a plumber?

Not kidding you, I knew one guy who tried to tell me that the average doctor makes a million a year. Yeah right.

 

[arkcom]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
The OP, has and entry level assistant management position offer for $51k.

Continue to think I am over estimating what a Wal Mart/Big Box store director and his immediate underlings make. Continue to look down upon them.

Ok ok, that figure probably takes into account stock matching, healthcare, and other benefits. It's not a "$51k cash" salary. I suppose if you include ALL those other things, you could touch $100k for a head-honcho of each store.

But the thing to remember when you hear "alleged" high salaries, if the pay was so great, others would be rushing to do it. The market balances salaries out and it's very competitive out there. That's why I'm skeptic of some people's salaries.

The avg salary for a Wal Mart Store manager who is male is $105k + benefits, unfortunately for women Wally world is sexist and the avg salary for a female store manager is $85k + benefits. People dont rush to do it because its not a pleasent job. Retail is not a pleasent job period, being responsible for an entire store, is beyond unpleasent.

Honestly I dont think you have any idea what their job entails or the experiance and years required to obtain a store manger positon.

:thumbsup:
My stepmom managed a small Freds store for a while, and even that was a nightmare. (65+ hours a week)

Plumbers work more hours at slightly less pay, the reason not everyone flocks to it is because it is not pleasant. The trashman, believe it or not gets paid real well, because the job sucks, and no one else wants to do it.

 

[arkcom]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Not kidding you, I knew one guy who tried to tell me that the average doctor makes a million a year. Yeah right.

I knew I shoulda been a doctor instead of a physicist....


anyway, good luck OP

 

[DaFOBulous1]

thats what we're talking about, upper management. upper management does work at the store and does pull six figures...

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: arkcom

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: arkcom
I would almost bet that a lot do. Plumbers around my area (low paid Arkansas) get $100 and hour. You would only have to work 20 hours a week to make 200k.

They don't, trust me, I've checked. People hear a figure and they don't take into account other things.

Most lawyers and doctors don't even make that much.

7 of the top 10 highest paying careers ar doctors.
Link
I'm sure none of them work 2000 hours a year.

Podiatrists, wtf? I didn't know athlete's foot paid so well.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: arkcom
7 of the top 10 highest paying careers ar doctors.
Link
I'm sure none of them work 2000 hours a year.

Exactly, and even most of them don't make $200k, so how could a plumber?

Not kidding you, I knew one guy who tried to tell me that the average doctor makes a million a year. Yeah right.

It depends if the plumber is self-employed or works for someone and is salaried. 200k is definitely possible if self-employed.

Dentist makes more than doctors and work shorter hours.

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
You can believe what you want, but a big box store director and his immediate underlings are making more than you. Sorry to tell you that.

Don't assume what I make, you'll be made a fool out of.

One of my pet peeves are people who overestimate other people salaries, that's all. It kind of gets annoying.

So can't I say the same on what your claimed salary is as well? It seems you don't have much experience in retail or are very limited. And yes, from my experience, managers do make 90-100K and before/after bonus. I'm entering a entry-management position and I would hit about 60K already after bonuses/incentives. Managing the One Dollar Store is a lot different from a large retailer especially when each store is rakes in a million a month.

And for doctors, my uncle is a plastic surgeon but a reconstructive one. His income was $275,000 and hovering around $210,000 during a slow year. After a nurse, a huge medical insurance, and rent, he pocketed $180K or so before taxes.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1
thats what we're talking about, upper management. upper management does work at the store and does pull six figures...

Yes, it's pretty well known fact that store managers and such in big box stores make 6 figures. Costco, Walmart, Target, etc. It's not an easy job.

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
The OP, has and entry level assistant management position offer for $51k.

Continue to think I am over estimating what a Wal Mart/Big Box store director and his immediate underlings make. Continue to look down upon them.

Ok ok, that figure probably takes into account stock matching, healthcare, and other benefits. It's not a "$51k cash" salary. I suppose if you include ALL those other things, you could touch $100k for a head-honcho of each store.

But the thing to remember when you hear "alleged" high salaries, if the pay was so great, others would be rushing to do it. The market balances salaries out and it's very competitive out there. That's why I'm skeptic of some people's salaries.

Its 49K based salary plus a 2-3K sign on bonus.

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: arkcom

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
The OP, has and entry level assistant management position offer for $51k.

Continue to think I am over estimating what a Wal Mart/Big Box store director and his immediate underlings make. Continue to look down upon them.

Ok ok, that figure probably takes into account stock matching, healthcare, and other benefits. It's not a "$51k cash" salary. I suppose if you include ALL those other things, you could touch $100k for a head-honcho of each store.

But the thing to remember when you hear "alleged" high salaries, if the pay was so great, others would be rushing to do it. The market balances salaries out and it's very competitive out there. That's why I'm skeptic of some people's salaries.

The avg salary for a Wal Mart Store manager who is male is $105k + benefits, unfortunately for women Wally world is sexist and the avg salary for a female store manager is $85k + benefits. People dont rush to do it because its not a pleasent job. Retail is not a pleasent job period, being responsible for an entire store, is beyond unpleasent.

Honestly I dont think you have any idea what their job entails or the experiance and years required to obtain a store manger positon.

:thumbsup:
My stepmom managed a small Freds store for a while, and even that was a nightmare. (65+ hours a week)

Plumbers work more hours at slightly less pay, the reason not everyone flocks to it is because it is not pleasant. The trashman, believe it or not gets paid real well, because the job sucks, and no one else wants to do it.

Yea, Im expecting a lot of hours after I hit salary. My assistant manager was laughing when I said don't you wish you had 40 hours. He said he wish he had 50 hours, its typically a 50-55 hour work week from all the places I been with.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Stay the hell away from Retail.

You will be working when the sutomers are out. Which means nights and weekends.

If they are quoting you 45hrs to start, project 50 - 55hr weeks. If someone calls in sick, you will be covering. Even on your days off!

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1
thats what we're talking about, upper management. upper management does work at the store and does pull six figures...

Yes, it's pretty well known fact that store managers and such in big box stores make 6 figures. Costco, Walmart, Target, etc. It's not an easy job.

Yea, I interned at one of them for the executive management position. People tend to look down at retail. For one they don't think it's embarassing, easy, and don't make a lot of money. For one, it's good money if you can reach management and management is very demanding. They get paid good but they don't get paid good to do nothing.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Stay the hell away from Retail.

You will be working when the sutomers are out. Which means nights and weekends.

If they are quoting you 45hrs to start, project 50 - 55hr weeks. If someone calls in sick, you will be covering. Even on your days off!

50-55 hours isn't bad, but the fact that they will vary widely on which part of the day you will work will suck. In HR, he would get fairly set hours each week. A manager at a store would work closely to the store's hours and even after hours.

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: arkcom

7 of the top 10 highest paying careers ar doctors.
Link
I'm sure none of them work 2000 hours a year.

As an anesthesiologist myself, those salaries for us and surgeons are on the low side. Heck I chose a relatively low paying job and I still pull >$240K with a great benefit plan as well. Plus lumping together surgeons is unfair, the Neurosurgery chairman here makes about 800K, while your everyday general surgeon is closer to the average posted.

Feel free to sort through the salaries of various UC faculty
http://www.sfgate.com/n/special/pages/2005/ucsalary/

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1

Originally posted by: shoegazer
I would be wary of the retail manager position. Just from working in sales I know that those managers have a ton of pressure put on them (which they in turn put on the sales team). I also had about 6 different managers during a 10 month period because they apparently weren't producing numbers that corporate approved of.

Very good points, I think that's why I liked the HR-route. It allows me more versatility to move out and I'm not as bounded as the sales demand as the ASMs are.

Another thing is they SAY 45hours. But it WILL be more.
I remember stories from walmart managers saying how they work 80-100+ hours a week. One said he got divoriced because he works so much "but the money was worth it...". The guy must not have been to smart if you add up what he said and hours, leta alone what he has to pay to his wife and child support, it was not that much.

Then there was a family dollar store manager on a site that one day sat down and added up his work hours vs his pay. He found out the asst. store manager made more as the asst. was paid by the hour.

Do you mind telling us the name of the places?

I would go HR.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: arkcom

7 of the top 10 highest paying careers ar doctors.
Link
I'm sure none of them work 2000 hours a year.

As an anesthesiologist myself, those salaries for us and surgeons are on the low side. Heck I chose a relatively low paying job and I still pull >$240K with a great benefit plan as well. Plus lumping together surgeons is unfair, the Neurosurgery chairman here makes about 800K, while your everyday general surgeon is closer to the average posted.

Feel free to sort through the salaries of various UC faculty
http://www.sfgate.com/n/special/pages/2005/ucsalary/

Yes, those figures are on the low side. Dentist make more than 130k out of school. Starting salary for pediatric dentist is almost 300k here in Atlanta.

 

[DaFOBulous1]

its a top five retailer...