CAREER CHOICES: College grad....

[DaFOBulous1]

 

[JLGatsby]

So you'd like work at a place like Home Depot or Walmart or something? Even if the money is good, that would still be embarrassing.

 

[CountZero]

Store manager is a hard position, being stuck in retail forever would also suck. I hated the whole feeling that the holidays were just more stressful times of the year rather than potentially fun times of the year. I'd probably go for the HR thing, regular style hours most of the time and a chance to move up or out of retail are both big pluses that outweigh the pros of store management.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
So you'd like work at a place like Home Depot or Walmart or something? Even if the money is good, that would still be embarrassing.

Honest work is never embarassing.

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
So you'd like work at a place like Home Depot or Walmart or something? Even if the money is good, that would still be embarrassing.

Are you the type of people who look down at immigrants? or people who would have discriminated against African-Americans back in the 60s?

Seriously...depending on the area, some of these managers are one of the brightest. I have interned at JP Morgan with a lot of UC-grabs myself and to be frank, retail manager have a similar amount of people.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1
Are you the type of people who look down at immigrants? or people who would have discriminated against African-Americans back in the 60s?

Certainly not. I personally would just feel self conscious going to work at a big box retail store (if in fact that's where the offer was from) after having earned a college degree. In reality I'm sure those people are very smart, but wouldn't you fear idiots like me would look down on you? I would.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1
Are you the type of people who look down at immigrants? or people who would have discriminated against African-Americans back in the 60s?

Certainly not. I personally would just feel self conscious going to work at a big box retail store (if in fact that's where the offer was from) after having earned a college degree. In reality I'm sure those people are very smart, but wouldn't you fear idiots like me would look down on you? I would.

You've got that right. Why would someone care that a loser such as yourself looks down on them, anyway?

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
So you'd like work at a place like Home Depot or Walmart or something? Even if the money is good, that would still be embarrassing.

Honest work is never embarassing.

Perfect thought, Feldenak.


As to the OP, I'd choose #1. From what you've stated, the company and its environment seem good and there is room to grow. If I were in your shoes, I would pick #1.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1
Are you the type of people who look down at immigrants? or people who would have discriminated against African-Americans back in the 60s?

Certainly not. I personally would just feel self conscious going to work at a big box retail store (if in fact that's where the offer was from) after having earned a college degree. In reality I'm sure those people are very smart, but wouldn't you fear idiots like me would look down on you? I would.

Personally, no. Even if I were only a store clerk in one of those places, I wouldn't worry about others looking down on me.

So long as you enjoy your job, and/or are earning a decent living, more power to you.

 

[Whisper]

As for the OP: do you have a preference between HR and retail sales? I'd imagine that should you not like whichever one you choose, it'd be best for the experience gained to be in your field of interest (although with management, I think it might be fairly unrestrictive when switching between areas/companies).

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1
Are you the type of people who look down at immigrants? or people who would have discriminated against African-Americans back in the 60s?

Certainly not. I personally would just feel self conscious going to work at a big box retail store (if in fact that's where the offer was from) after having earned a college degree. In reality I'm sure those people are very smart, but wouldn't you fear idiots like me would look down on you? I would.

Being self-conscious doesn't feed a family. My father was a cherry-picker and paid his way as a janitor to become an engineer. If he was so self-conscious, I would think he would just give up.

 

[DaFOBulous1]

I think HR is my preference as it has a lot more versatility even I grow tired of retail. At the same time, the ladder for retail management is restrictive that you are stuck in general retail but there are more opportunities to move up.

Sorry if I got a bit defensive but I really did not like this self-conscious comment. Self-conscious does not feed your family, it just feeds your ego. I have no time for that...even at this age.

#1 is a top 20 retail, and #2 is a top 5 retail

 

[chimmytime]

Get out of the service force as soon as possible.

Suffer now so that later on it'll be easier.

 

[shoegazer]

I would be wary of the retail manager position. Just from working in sales I know that those managers have a ton of pressure put on them (which they in turn put on the sales team). I also had about 6 different managers during a 10 month period because they apparently weren't producing numbers that corporate approved of.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
So you'd like work at a place like Home Depot or Walmart or something? Even if the money is good, that would still be embarrassing.

You know, I've killed a fair amount of brain cells over the years from smoking copious amounts of marijuana, but just reading this post, let alone acknowledging that it exists, trumps that accomplishment by incredible magnitudes.

Congratulations, you've succeeded in making someone stupider than you via the magic of the Internet.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: DaFOBulous1
Are you the type of people who look down at immigrants? or people who would have discriminated against African-Americans back in the 60s?

Certainly not. I personally would just feel self conscious going to work at a big box retail store (if in fact that's where the offer was from) after having earned a college degree. In reality I'm sure those people are very smart, but wouldn't you fear idiots like me would look down on you? I would.

They can pull down bank. Add on bonuses and stock options, the upper management at retail big box stores pull six figures.

 

[Strk]

It's a tough call, to be honest with you. If you go into HR, you're mostly going to end up dealing with employees and their issues (hiring, benefits etc), whereas with the manager you're going to work with customers a lot more frequently. It seems to come down to who do you want to work with more?

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: shoegazer
I would be wary of the retail manager position. Just from working in sales I know that those managers have a ton of pressure put on them (which they in turn put on the sales team). I also had about 6 different managers during a 10 month period because they apparently weren't producing numbers that corporate approved of.

Very good points, I think that's why I liked the HR-route. It allows me more versatility to move out and I'm not as bounded as the sales demand as the ASMs are.

 

[DaFOBulous1]

Originally posted by: shoegazer
I would be wary of the retail manager position. Just from working in sales I know that those managers have a ton of pressure put on them (which they in turn put on the sales team). I also had about 6 different managers during a 10 month period because they apparently weren't producing numbers that corporate approved of.

Very good points, I think that's why I liked the HR-route. It allows me more versatility to move out and I'm not as bounded as the sales demand as the ASMs are.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
They can pull down bank. Add on bonuses and stock options, the upper management at retail big box stores pull six figures.

Of course, upper management, but they don't actually work at the actual store. I'm talking about if you had to go to "work" everyday where you "work" was an actual store itself. But if the OP is not as self conscious as me, good for him.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
They can pull down bank. Add on bonuses and stock options, the upper management at retail big box stores pull six figures.

Of course, upper management, but they don't actually work at the actual store. I'm talking about if you had to go to "work" everyday where you "work" was an actual store itself. But if the OP is not as self conscious as me, good for him.

No I am talking about the upper management IN the stores.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
No I am talking about the upper management IN the stores.

Don't overestimate people's salaries, I see a lot of people do that. I don't believe they make that much.

I met one guy who was absolutely convinced plumbers make $200k/year. Ok, so there might be one, but it does not apply to all, or even most. People don't make as much as some think they do.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
No I am talking about the upper management IN the stores.

Don't overestimate people's salaries, I see a lot of people do that. I don't believe they make that much.

I met one guy who was absolutely convinced plumbers make $200k/year. Ok, so there might be one, but it does not apply to all, or even most. People don't make as much as some think they do.

Ive known big box store directors and grocery store store directors. They make well over $100k. The people directly under them make around $100k as well.

Wal Mart has a Store Director, a Store Manager, and an Operations Manager, they all make over $100k. They also all have college degrees, and 10+ years at Wally World.

Hell seven years ago my immediate boss, a departmental manger in a grocery store was pulling $80k+ bonuses.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Ive known big box store directors and grocery store store directors. They make well over $100k. The people under them make around $100k as well.

So you read people's paychecks or is this just what they told you? Be skeptical of what people tell you.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Ive known big box store directors and grocery store store directors. They make well over $100k. The people under them make around $100k as well.

So you read people's paychecks or is this just what they told you? Be skeptical of what people tell you.

You can believe what you want, but a big box store director and his immediate underlings are making more than you. Sorry to tell you that. They also all have college degrees. Sorry to tell you that as well.