Career(s) for anti-social personalities? (High paying?)

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spittledip

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: Coldkilla
I finally went over the deep end. I'm 21 years old and I just hired up a psychiatrist. We ended up summarizing after 2 hours that I am more of an "engineering" type of person than "creative". Meaning that, for example: no matter how many years I've played piano/drums, I've never been very original. However, I've always been almost too hardworking/anti-social/profection-istic, and my inability to have empathy for anyone while being in an environment where it should have grown on me, has not in nearly 10 years. Not taking advantage of these situations, around this many people has shown grim signs of no turning back. He said unless things start changing soon, my personality is more likely to remain this way as I've been excersizing one end of my brain, while the other end is "becoming flat" (my social and empathic side). I don't see myself changing anytime soon (and find no shame in that, I'm very happy as it is).

So I've been thinking about career choices. I love computers, creating presentations, spending excessive hours formatting hand written notes and creating professional slideshows. I don't mind giving speeches and I'm addicted to math. I was initially thinking about transferring across the state (UW Madison, WI) and work on a Bachelors/Masters in "Business Management and Information Technology". But I wasn't sure, so I thought I could come on here and ask if anyone of you guys may know of any careers worth looking into. I also thought about an Accountant, but isn't that just purely crunching numbers 24/7 and nothing more?

- I should also mention I took 1-2 intro to computers/programming courses and even though I did well in them, I never quite grasped it as something I'd like to do when I became older. It was interesting, but it was not my cup of tea.

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$ isnt everything

Sounds like we got another antisocial person right here. ^^^ Maybe you guys can get married.
 

Coldkilla

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Well perhaps the term 'asocial' is more prevelant than 'anti-social', I mean being around people isn't a problem, its just initiating a conversation that I find interesting... Otherwise I have no problem talking to others, its just that the conversations are nearly 2 seconds long & pointless. Anyways.. so yea I guess the impression I'm getting so far is that I'm screwed..
 

chusteczka

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If you develop a professional skill and keep your mind focused on that subject, then you never need to worry about inane small talk. Develop your intelligence, stay focused on your craft, and you do not need to waste your time with those who have nothing better to talk about.

People greet me all the time with "Hi, how ya doin'?". They are not listening for an answer and I do not answer them. I just say "Hello" in return and keep going about my business. This provides people the message that I am focused on my job. They can talk to me all they like about technical issues and questions, just do not waste my time with useless banter. I greatly enjoy the look of frustration on those pompous business people who are all fluff with no substance when I ignore their useless conversational habits. After a few times, they learn that their typical fake, front end, approach does not affect me and they stick to a smile and a hello like any other normal person.

I remember when I was young, somebody told me that I had to pay attention to sports so I would have something to discuss with people. That seemed like a waste of time to me and I figure if I need to follow sports (or even current social media pop art junk) then those were the people I did not want to talk to. Give me an intelligent conversation and I am involved, just do not waste my time on the useless small talk. Some people enjoy such talk, some do not. It is not a big deal.

That professional skill that I mentioned can be anything you like. It can be computers, engineering, math, accounting, economics, finance, anthropology, or art. It can be anything in which you can develop a professional and technical skill. Even sales will work if you want to focus on the technical aspect of the job, rather than the "people person" small talk.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: lyssword
Just listen to Tool and you'll become (instantly) more creative.
Also, Engineering if you love math, pays better than IT/computers.

you guys are seriously way too obsessed with that shitty band.
 

SpunkyJones

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Apr 1, 2004
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Your putting too much thought into your anti-social leanings. You sound like you can communicate when you need to, and thats all that matters in any work place I've been in. For the most part I've found if you want to engage in small talk thats ok, if not, thats ok too, you just need to be friendly with your co workers and do your job. I consider myself to be socially retarded, but I get the job done, whether its as an individual or as part of a team. Focus on what you want to do for a career and ignore any social anxieties when making your decision.
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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Originally posted by: chusteczka


I remember when I was young, somebody told me that I had to pay attention to sports so I would have something to discuss with people. That seemed like a waste of time to me and I figure if I need to follow sports (or even current social media pop art junk) then those were the people I did not want to talk to. Give me an intelligent conversation and I am involved, just do not waste my time on the useless small talk. Some people enjoy such talk, some do not. It is not a big deal.

Hahaha my brother told me the same thing a few years ago when I was a student at UT. Not knowing about football has never hurt me
 

HammerCurl

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Sounds like you should stop listening to shrinks.

Exactly. You shouldn't have to be interested in things you don't care about. That makes you seem more awkward. Just know what you like and be genuine. But if you ever do want to talk to random people and random stuff, it's gonna take practice. One thing that my friend told me that I found really helpful is just talk to people like they're your friends already (minus sexist/racist/political jokes).
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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Originally posted by: HammerCurl
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Sounds like you should stop listening to shrinks.

Exactly. You shouldn't have to be interested in things you don't care about. That makes you seem more awkward. Just know what you like and be genuine. But if you ever do want to talk to random people and random stuff, it's gonna take practice. One thing that my friend told me that I found really helpful is just talk to people like they're your friends already (minus sexist/racist/political jokes).

Sexist/racist/political jokes are the spice of life
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Feb 16, 2003
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Get the high paying thing out of your mind and find something you enjoy.

If you just look for something high paying, you probably won't find it. If you look for something you enjoy and work hard at it, in my opinion, you're more likely to end up with a high pay. Basically, money shouldn't be your only motivation.
 

Gothgar

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: lyssword
Just listen to Tool and you'll become (instantly) more creative.
Also, Engineering if you love math, pays better than IT/computers.

you guys are seriously way too obsessed with that shitty band.

but they have a new cd coming out!!!!1111one
 

skace

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Being antisocial is a fault, even if you pick a job specifically because you don't like dealing with people, you would still benefit from being social in that position. There are very few companies of 1 and because of that you will always have to deal with somebody.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Well perhaps the term 'asocial' is more prevelant than 'anti-social', I mean being around people isn't a problem, its just initiating a conversation that I find interesting... Otherwise I have no problem talking to others, its just that the conversations are nearly 2 seconds long & pointless. Anyways.. so yea I guess the impression I'm getting so far is that I'm screwed..

Hard Science research. Requires focus and long-term patience and meticulous attention to detail.

Your writing skills aren't that bad, even though you make a series of ATOT level mistakes like mis-using (and misspelling) the word "prevalant" above, so you could easily train yourself to be an effective writer of grants, the life blood of basic research if you're not employed by a big company with an R&D dept.

I dunno. As others said, social skills are basic and beneficial to almost any adult endeavor.

Your level of self-awareness, as shown in your OP, though, does indicate to me that you will be OK, and that you will more or less succeed in whatever you do.

 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: chusteczka
If you develop a professional skill and keep your mind focused on that subject, then you never need to worry about inane small talk. Develop your intelligence, stay focused on your craft, and you do not need to waste your time with those who have nothing better to talk about.

People greet me all the time with "Hi, how ya doin'?". They are not listening for an answer and I do not answer them. I just say "Hello" in return and keep going about my business. This provides people the message that I am focused on my job. They can talk to me all they like about technical issues and questions, just do not waste my time with useless banter. I greatly enjoy the look of frustration on those pompous business people who are all fluff with no substance when I ignore their useless conversational habits. After a few times, they learn that their typical fake, front end, approach does not affect me and they stick to a smile and a hello like any other normal person.

I remember when I was young, somebody told me that I had to pay attention to sports so I would have something to discuss with people. That seemed like a waste of time to me and I figure if I need to follow sports (or even current social media pop art junk) then those were the people I did not want to talk to. Give me an intelligent conversation and I am involved, just do not waste my time on the useless small talk. Some people enjoy such talk, some do not. It is not a big deal.

That professional skill that I mentioned can be anything you like. It can be computers, engineering, math, accounting, economics, finance, anthropology, or art. It can be anything in which you can develop a professional and technical skill. Even sales will work if you want to focus on the technical aspect of the job, rather than the "people person" small talk.
I'd been told that, too. What it effectively meant to me was, "Learn about something you really don't give a damn about."
I can see it now:
"What's your favorite sports team?"
"Oh, I can't stand sports, I just memorize all the latest goings-on so that I have conversation material. I find sports to be quite dull."
"......."

Maybe not done so bluntly, but if I had no genuine interest in sports or pop culture, it would surely show in conversation. It might be a better idea for other people to become less infatuated with those things, and focus their attentions on science or math-related fields, no? Then we'd all have something to talk about, right? Oh wait, this double-edged sword only swings one way. Right.


I've found that I can work with people perfectly well, but if the conversation deviates considerably from the job at hand, I tend to kind of phase out, and stay focused in my little world of the task to be completed. It's just wearing on me to constantly be around people; this semester's been loads of fun because all of my classes have lots of groupwork, which is generally just a pain in the ass because trying to find available times in everyone's schedule can be nearly impossible. That, and it can turn a 12hr day into a 14hr day, simply because the only available time is after everyone's last class ends at 8pm on a few days of the week.

That's something else then to consider - can you be "social" enough to at least work in a group? If you can do that effectively, I think that'll be most of what's needed in a working environment. Nothing says you have to go out to the bar with everyone else once you clock out. Through the years at school, my report cards often said "Works well in groups" - I can do that, and in many cases, I'll find myself in a position of leading the group, if only because I'm either the only one who really knows what's going on, or else the only one who's at all concerned with getting a good grade. But once the work is done, that's about it. I don't "hang out" then with everyone in my various groups; we meet for the assignment, and that's it. I'm not unpleasant or anything like that; maybe a bit formal, but then, that's just how I am, at least in mannerisms (certainly not in terms of dress code. Formal attire - blech).
 
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