Carmelo Anthony just as, or maybe even more clutch than jordan???

[Inspector Jihad]

He's 10 of 15 in his career for gamewinning or tieing shots in the final ten seconds.

And he has 8 career game winners...just three less than what jordan had in his 15 seasons.

Given the bulls would more often than not have the game wrapped up, but still carmelo is pretty awesome in the clutch...kinda like the opposite of lebron.

 

[DougK62]

I'd take Reggie Miller over either of them.

 

[mrizvi66]

Originally posted by: DougK62
I'd take Reggie Miller over either of them.

QFT....remembers reggie scoring 8 points in 8 or 6 sec to beat the knicks....ahhh those were the day that the knicks still sucked....

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Carmelo is going to have a very successful career in the NBA. He's already proven to have the poise and confidence to win. His clutch numbers are already amazing.

What were Reggie's clutch stats through his career?

 

[fLum0x]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Carmelo is going to have a very successful career in the NBA. He's already proven to have the poise and confidence to win. His clutch numbers are already amazing.

What were Reggie's clutch stats through his career?

that his ears are bigger than dumbo's

 

[KMFJD]

More clutch than Jordan? highly doubt it, how many championships has Anthony won now with his clutch shooting?

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: KMFJD
More clutch than Jordan? highly doubt it, how many championships has Anthony won now with his clutch shooting?

Winning championships has nothing to do with being a clutch player.

 

[MikeMike]

yea, he is clutch at being fined.

atleast Lebron James is a FINE example of an EXCELLENT person, hardly ever argues, no fines, nothing stupid etc.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
yea, he is clutch at being fined.

atleast Lebron James is a FINE example of an EXCELLENT person, hardly ever argues, no fines, nothing stupid etc.

wtf does this have to do with the topic

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
yea, he is clutch at being fined.

atleast Lebron James is a FINE example of an EXCELLENT person, hardly ever argues, no fines, nothing stupid etc.

wtf does this have to do with the topic

no way in hell i would pick Carmelo over Jordan, or James for ANYTHING.

thats what i was gettin at.

 

[Accipiter22]

they had an ESPN article on that...I think bill simmons wrote it, it was about the nBA in general...it was during his review of the teams.....carmelo had the highest clutch rating, kobe was among the worst

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
yea, he is clutch at being fined.

atleast Lebron James is a FINE example of an EXCELLENT person, hardly ever argues, no fines, nothing stupid etc.

wtf does this have to do with the topic

no way in hell i would pick Carmelo over Jordan, or James for ANYTHING.

thats what i was gettin at.

Carmelo led the Nuggest from the sh!tter to the playoffs every single year he has played there, plus a no-name Syracuse team to a National Championship. Sure, Lebron is an amazing player, but he doesn't have any real accomplishments yet. We'll see what he does this first time in the playoffs.

 

[Accipiter22]

http://www.82games.com/random12.htm

Kobe's got one of the worst percentages....

OK this table got mauled, just click the link


Leading "Game Winning Shot" Players
Player Fgm Fga Fg% Ftm Fta Ast T/O
League Wide 423 1440 .294 287 393 188 133
Carmelo Anthony 10 16 .625 6 8 0 1
Steve Francis 8 20 .400 3 3 2 1
Allen Iverson 8 20 .400 5 7 1 2
Tracy McGrady 8 23 .348 8 8 0 1
Vince Carter 8 31 .258 4 4 3 2
Michael Redd 7 17 .412 4 5 0 1
Paul Pierce 7 19 .368 8 10 5 3
Joe Johnson 7 21 .333 0 0 0 1
Kobe Bryant 7 28 .250 8 9 0 1
Jalen Rose 6 10 .600 4 5 0 4
Pau Gasol 6 11 .545 3 4 1 1
Ben Gordon 6 12 .500 0 0 1 1
Damon Stoudamire 6 12 .500 0 0 4 1
Tim Duncan 6 13 .462 3 4 0 1
Dwyane Wade 6 16 .375 3 5 2 1
Dirk Nowitzki 6 18 .333 6 10 0 2
Damon Jones 5 8 .625 1 1 1 0
Zach Randolph 5 8 .625 4 5 0 0
Derek Fisher 5 9 .556 0 0 1 0
Antawn Jamison 5 9 .556 0 2 0 0
Richard Hamilton 5 10 .500 2 2 2 2
Jason Terry 5 13 .385 1 2 0 0
Ray Allen 5 14 .357 2 2 0 2
Ricky Davis 5 15 .333 4 4 1 0
Gilbert Arenas 5 16 .313 7 7 0 2
Mike Bibby 5 16 .313 1 1 3 1
Chris Webber 5 17 .294 0 0 1 1
Kevin Garnett 5 20 .250 3 3 0 0
Chauncey Billups 5 24 .208 10 11 2 1
P.J. Brown 4 7 .571 0 0 0 0
Yao Ming 4 7 .571 4 5 0 0
Tony Parker 4 9 .444 0 0 3 0
Richard Jefferson 4 10 .400 1 1 0 1
Shawn Marion 4 10 .400 0 0 0 0
Mike James 4 12 .333 2 4 2 0
Baron Davis 4 13 .308 2 2 2 1
Rasheed Wallace 4 18 .222 2 2 0 1




Ron Artest 3 8 .375 1 1 1 1
Robert Horry 2 4 .500 0 0 0 0
Shaquille O'Neal 2 4 .500 3 5 1 0
Predrag Stojakovic 2 4 .500 1 1 1 0
Chris Bosh 2 8 .250 2 2 1 0
Rashard Lewis 2 11 .182 2 4 0 1
Jermaine O'Neal 2 13 .154 4 4 1 0
LeBron James 2 16 .125 4 8 4 2
Jason Richardson 2 17 .118 1 6 3 2
Andrei Kirilenko 1 4 .250 5 9 0 0
Elton Brand 1 5 .200 2 2 1 0
Emanuel Ginobili 1 9 .111 0 1 2 2
Corey Maggette 1 11 .091 2 2 0 2
Stephon Marbury 1 12 .083 7 7 3 1
Steve Nash 1 14 .071 2 3 6 2

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
yea, he is clutch at being fined.

atleast Lebron James is a FINE example of an EXCELLENT person, hardly ever argues, no fines, nothing stupid etc.

wtf does this have to do with the topic

no way in hell i would pick Carmelo over Jordan, or James for ANYTHING.

thats what i was gettin at.

Carmelo led the Nuggest from the sh!tter to the playoffs every single year he has played there, plus a no-name Syracuse team to a National Championship. Sure, Lebron is an amazing player, but he doesn't have any real accomplishments yet. We'll see what he does this first time in the playoffs.

but did the Nuggets not also get many other good players for C.A. to be with? i dont follow the NBA that much as it sucks ass to watch unless im rooting for a team.

 

[Lorax]

carmelo's pretty clutch. I hear he has a drill where he just practices releasing his shot from weird angles, etc.

but also, the nuggets aren't a "great" team, as in their games are usually pretty close. maybe jordan didn't need to take so many game winners, since the bulls had already blown out their opponents by the 4th. (the later bulls teams, not the early jordan ones)

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Lorax
carmelo's pretty clutch. I hear he has a drill where he just practices releasing his shot from weird angles, etc.

but also, the nuggets aren't a "great" team, as in their games are usually pretty close. maybe jordan didn't need to take so many game winners, since the bulls had already blown out their opponents by the 4th. (the later bulls teams, not the early jordan ones)

dont remind me of jordans ability to shoot the game winner...

<-- cavs fan.

 

[Kev]

Wow, a 15 shot attempt sample size. Give him the clutch trophy already :roll:

 

[iamme]

maybe Melo is clutch in the definition of hitting a game deciding bucket.....but, being clutch is WAY more than just hitting the last shot.

MJ carried his team through whole 4th quarters, sometimes finding teammates at the last moment.

this whole melo vs lebron being clutch thing is way stupid, imo. when lebron hit his first game winner, i remember analysts talking about Lebron being propelled to the "next level" because of it. what a crock.

 

[iamme]

btw, they define a clutch shot as a shot within the last 24 seconds. this is a very subjective stat. check this out:

Q; How come Paul Pierce's incredible recent clutch efforts don't move him up more in the update?

A: He has indeed had some prime time moments, but many of them are falling just outside our filter:

vs Indiana - made basket to put the Celtics ahead for good and break the tie...but with 39 seconds left
vs Philadelphia - made a three pointer to put the Celtics up one...but with 27 seconds left
vs Denver - made the basket to break the tie and give the Celtics the lead for good...with 52 seconds left

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Kev
Wow, a 15 shot attempt sample size. Give him the clutch trophy already :roll:

Agreed, sample size is pretty small... But if you look at that list, it's mostly superstars anyway. I would purport that on any given day any of those superstars could hit or miss a shot given the sample size. 2 years ago it could have been A.I. or Francis, and Carmelo has gotten more chances in the past 2 years. It's pretty random IMO.

 

[magicfame]

robert horry

 

[QED]

So because Denver has played more close games that come down to a final shot... that makes him more clutch than Jordan?

That's an effing joke.

My definition of clutch is this: your team has the ball and is down one point, with ten seconds left in the game. Who do you want controlling the ball?

I would take Jordan every single time over Carmelo...

 

[bobbybe01]

Originally posted by: MathMan
So because Denver has played more close games that come down to a final shot... that makes him more clutch than Jordan?

That's an effing joke.

My definition of clutch is this: your team has the ball and is down one point, with ten seconds left in the game. Who do you want controlling the ball?

I would take Jordan every single time over Carmelo...

But if you were playing for Denver wouldn't you want Carmelo to have the ball?

 

[cubby1223]

So those regular season shots compare to Jordan hitting game winning shots in the NBA Finals?

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: magicfame
robert horry

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