Carnival Cruise ship nightmare!

[Wreckem]

They need to design a little better redundancy into these cruise ships. I am not talking military specifications. Something along the lines of redundant fully isolated engine rooms so in the event that one is knocked completely out they can still limp home using the other one. With cruise ships getting so large 100,000+ tons and so many people on-board they need to have redundant systems.

The problem isnt the engines. The engines reportedly are okay as the fire suppression kicked in immediately. The problem is once the fire suppression goes off, they have no way to suppress another fire if it were to happen again. They are hesitant to turn the engines back on, because if another fired happened, the entire ship, crew and passengers would go up in flames.

If the engines were fucked up, all cruises for the next 3 months(minimum) would be canceled.

Edit: Looks like they have canceled two months out. Originally it was just two weeks. I guess it was more serious that they originally let on. Sucks to be Carnival CLL, the parent company. Concordia last year. A fire last fall and now this.

 

[Wreckem]

How long do you suppose food would last on a ship with no power floating around in the heat in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico?

They aren't completely out of power. They are on backup generators. Plus other Carnival ships and USCG vessels are regularly resupplying the ship.

USCG boarded the ship one the first/second day. If conditions were unsafe they would not have allowed Carnival to proceed with their plan to go to Mobile.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

One thing all these cruise ship fiascos seem to have in common is whenever something goes wrong, the crew always seems paralyzed/gone missing.

 

[Wreckem]

One thing all these cruise ship fiascos seem to have in common is whenever something goes wrong, the crew always seems paralyzed/gone missing.

I dont see where they have gone missing in this instance.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I dont see where they have gone missing in this instance.

Cold food is understandable with lack of power but, lack of food? Sure seems like the Chef has an inability to adapt and overcome.

 

[Mixolydian]

Sounds like a pretty shitty vacation! :awe:

 

[Wreckem]

Cold food is understandable with lack of power but, lack of food? Sure seems like the Chef has an inability to adapt and overcome.

At this point they are entirely dependent on other Carnival ships and USCG vessels to deliver them food. Its not about lack of food its, I believe it is a lack of "quality/good food items."

There are also reports of hogging/hoarding food. I could see that as a dropped ball, ship security should be more active in policing the food area. Although they probably fear the mod of people overrunning them and disregarding them. Last thing they need is the ship to break out in riot.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

So, what happened to the food in their walk-ins and freezers and dry storage? Food doesn't instantly spoil the second the power goes out.


I know the reason, the ugly hand of risk management and minimizing lawsuits is showing. Screw the people, circle the wagons and hang on to your money!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Cold food is understandable with lack of power but, lack of food? Sure seems like the Chef has an inability to adapt and overcome.

Do the emergency generators power the kitchens? Inability to cook food would be a big problem and would explain why they ran out of food on a ship equipped for a full cruise. A cooler filled with pork and chicken isn't going to do anyone any good without a stove.

 

[Wreckem]

So, what happened to the food in their walk-ins and freezers and dry storage? Food doesn't instantly spoil the second the power goes out.


I know the reason, the ugly hand of risk management and minimizing lawsuits is showing. Screw the people, circle the wagons and hang on to your money!

Cruise ships only carry a certain amount of food. This was a 4 day cruise that was supposed to end its voyage this past Monday.

 

[Wreckem]

So, what happened to the food in their walk-ins and freezers and dry storage? Food doesn't instantly spoil the second the power goes out.


I know the reason, the ugly hand of risk management and minimizing lawsuits is showing. Screw the people, circle the wagons and hang on to your money!

They are already refunding the cruise fare, reimbursing for onboard expenses except gift shop and casino, they are taking care of all travel costs(pre cruise and post cruise), and are giving a free cruise on top of that.

They have also refunded all the money for all the canceled cruises and are going to cover(already booked) nonrefundable travel costs associated with them.

 

[MrRamon]

Free beer please.

 

[Exterous]

It sucks for all of those aboard

OP is implying that through his posts.

In what world does 'It sucks for all of those aboard' = 'you should be thankful for a shitty vacation'?

Free beer please.

Various sources are reporting they are providing free alcohol

 

[Stifko]

Has the ship been towed to port yet or are they still out there? Why were (are) they towing at only 6 knots?

 

[FallenHero]

In what world does 'It sucks for all of those aboard' = 'you should be thankful for a shitty vacation'?



Various sources are reporting they are providing free alcohol

Yeah, I guess if you complete ignore the whole " your still alive. Your not hurt. Calm down and get over it a bit." part your point would make sense.

 

[IronWing]

Free beer please.

With no functioning toilets?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Has the ship been towed to port yet or are they still out there? Why were (are) they towing at only 6 knots?

According to the news story, it's being towed at 8 Mph or just under 7 knots. It's due to dock tomorrow. Towing a large ship is tricky, there's a whole lot of ship sticking up that acts like a sail.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I wonder about the trash piling up. I guess they only had 4 days worth of trash bags too.

 

[IronWing]

According to the news story, it's being towed at 8 Mph or just under 7 knots. It's due to dock tomorrow. Towing a large ship is tricky, there's a whole lot of ship sticking up that acts like a sail.

They should have scuttled it first. Then let slip about the necklace.

 

[IronWing]

I wonder about the trash piling up. I guess they only had 4 days worth of trash bags too.

Not like they had any place to throw it. :whiste:

 

[DCal430]

This happened in the Gulf of Mexico. Hawaii is deep in the south Pacific.

Pretty sure all the Hawaiian cruises leave from Hawaii and return to Hawaii.

Cunard has trans oceanic cruises that go from California to Hawaii and Hawaii to Australia.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Not like they had any place to throw it. :whiste:

Yeah, no trash bags so, they might as well leave it in the corridors instead of the engine room or kitchen that isn't being used.

 

[Wreckem]

I wonder about the trash piling up. I guess they only had 4 days worth of trash bags too.

80% of all cruise ship solid waste and garbage is incinerated on ship. I'd reckon powering an incinerator isn't priority when you are one backup generators.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

80% of all cruise ship solid waste and garbage is incinerated on ship.

Yeah why bother picking it up when you can't burn it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Has the ship been towed to port yet or are they still out there? Why were (are) they towing at only 6 knots?

These ships make 20 knots cruising speed. Tug boats are powerful work horses but they cannot pull a ship this size at anywhere near its cruising speed.