Cars with a professional look at a college price

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You're overblowing the situation. If you're in front of clients all day, do you believe that they do take appearance on how you dress, or is it ok with them if you come in with bed hair and a torn night shirt?

On your car claims, I kind of like the 3 series, not very fond of the C class. Not sure why you see them as d-bag cars. Nor do I understand why you feel the need to get so inflamed by the thread.

you're not in front of clients all day in an engineering job. ???

I'm really confused with this thread.
 

heymrdj

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Hehe you guys are reading wayyy too far into hypotheticals. Rephrase. A car that's the next step between the cartoony teen cars (Soul, Mazda 3, Fiesta, you know the ones) that also aren't 60-70k. There has to be a good middle ground car in there for those that are young but in the market for a new car that looks nice, isn't for grandma, and isn't designed around people that think lights flashing around their speakers is the best thing since sliced bread. Geeze i figured there was more Gen Y out there than that . I figure for most people in this economy that will come there abouts to 25-30k. I didn't see where it was that hard of a question .

As for me, my personal interest comes after this year. I should be debt free by the end of this year or a bit earlier at my current debt payoff (950$ a month). Therefore, I wouldn't mind having a nicer newer vehicle next year. The 2004 Expedition 1. gets about 14mpg on a good day with the mods. 2. has a few things starting to fall apart in it and 3. is coming due to about 2-2.5 grand of suspension/parts reworking. So sometime next year I'll *probably* be looking at moving on. I live within my means, I have my television, furniture, a simple 1 bed room apartment, and a cell phone. Expenses aren't exactly through the room (food, gas, living and all is about 1000/1100$ a month). So I didn't figure that 25K was out of this world to most people.
 

SearchMaster

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$40K/yr is not enough to buy a $25K car unless you have absolutely no debt and won't take any on until you pay it off. Even then it's not really enough but at least you've made an informed choice to be "car poor".

If a Lexus or Infiniti are not "professional enough" for a guy just getting started...frankly I weep for your future, it's going to be hard to get on solid footing.
 

heymrdj

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$20/hour, engineering, and "nice job" doesn't sound right. What school did you go to? Whats your major? Did you negotiate any?

GSW, Virtualization Engineer, its about right in line with everyone else I see, everyone else that makes higher didn't get there until being with their company a few years.
 

heymrdj

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$40K/yr is not enough to buy a $25K car unless you have absolutely no debt and won't take any on until you pay it off. Even then it's not really enough but at least you've made an informed choice to be "car poor".

If a Lexus or Infiniti are not "professional enough" for a guy just getting started...frankly I weep for your future, it's going to be hard to get on solid footing.

I didn't say anything about their professionality, I said i was iffy on the way they look lol, but this isn't personal, this is a general consensus of the cars out there. Obviously those car models work really well or they wouldn't move so many units. :|
 
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My coworker has a very nice regal looking cream-white Lexus sedan. It gets atrocious gas mileage but people are driving them to 350-400k miles and the engine is still working fine. The ride is incredible, all leather, and they can be had for ~$7k. I would look into one of those honestly. For example I think this is the model he has:
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ctd/2819938785.html
very luxurious.
 

heymrdj

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Me. Too. $20/hour is G.E.D. level pay.

Maybe in your town, to Fort Wayne, IN thats actually quite a high pay. I pay 500 a month for an apartment that allows our large dog, and include water, gas, and trash. Heat and cooking and dryer is gas, so I run all that for free besides the electric motors. Average month e-bill is about 50$.

I imagine where you're talking about rent and elec alone is past the 1000 mark.
 

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$40K/yr is not enough to buy a $25K car unless you have absolutely no debt and won't take any on until you pay it off. Even then it's not really enough but at least you've made an informed choice to be "car poor".

If a Lexus or Infiniti are not "professional enough" for a guy just getting started...frankly I weep for your future, it's going to be hard to get on solid footing.

The Lexus IS and the Infiniti G are not "professional" in my mind, either. Too sporty.

The Lexus ES, Infiniti M, BMW 3/5, and Mercedes C/E are professional in my book.
 

SearchMaster

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I didn't say anything about their professionality, I said i was iffy on the way they look lol, but this isn't personal, this is a general consensus of the cars out there. Obviously those car models work really well or they wouldn't move so many units. :|

not very much professional regality to them

That was my interpretation. Good luck either way, hope you find the car of your dreams at a price you can afford.
 
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My coworker has a very nice regal looking cream-white Lexus sedan. It gets atrocious gas mileage but people are driving them to 350-400k miles and the engine is still working fine. The ride is incredible, all leather, and they can be had for ~$7k. I would look into one of those honestly. For example I think this is the model he has:
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ctd/2819938785.html
very luxurious.

here's his model:

Doesn't look so great in a photo, very luxury looking in person IMO due to size and ride. You can get them with paint looking that good, too, for cheap. His does.
 

heymrdj

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here's his model:

Doesn't look so great in a photo, very luxury looking in person IMO. You can get them with paint looking that good, too, for cheap. His does.

Yeah I was just taking a look on CL and seeing some popping up, 1997 for about 4K-5K for a fairly loaded model. Not bad at all, much better inside than I expected and most of the examples seem pretty clean compared to the romped on civics and accords.
 

heymrdj

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you're not in front of clients all day in an engineering job. ???

I'm really confused with this thread.

Who do you thinks sits down with the customer to gather specs, load ranges, future uses ect ect? If I'm putting the system together that the team will later come in and build, I want a 1 on 1 with the client to understand clear cut what they need/want/afford ect. Too many times the details are lost in the paperwork. Alot of stuff like this needs a human touch to the computer side.
 

Throckmorton

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If you drive a luxury car, you'll just look like a Trustafarian or other variant of the rich kid whose parents bought him a car. Heck, at my office in Houston a guy got a new Altima coupe and that's what we assumed happened.
 
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so what would you say, you do here?

Who do you thinks sits down with the customer to gather specs, load ranges, future uses ect ect? If I'm putting the system together that the team will later come in and build, I want a 1 on 1 with the client to understand clear cut what they need/want/afford ect. Too many times the details are lost in the paperwork. Alot of stuff like this needs a human touch to the computer side.

So you take the requirements from the customers, and deliver them to the engineers? I kid.
 
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V6 Mustang or used V8


If you drive a luxury car, you'll just look like a Trustafarian or other variant of the rich kid whose parents bought him a car.

that's a good point, though not exactly a bad thing?
and ya there's nothing wrong with a Mustang.

If he's set on luxury the leather interiors on those ES300s is 2nd to none for the price.
 
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heymrdj

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so what would you say, you do here?



So you take the requirements from the customers, and deliver them to the engineers? I kid.

You know that's exactly what I thought when I wrote that sentence :awe:. But that means I take it to myself... D: I have been talking to myself and aweful lot lately.... :hmm:
 

Throckmorton

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Maybe in your town, to Fort Wayne, IN thats actually quite a high pay. I pay 500 a month for an apartment that allows our large dog, and include water, gas, and trash. Heat and cooking and dryer is gas, so I run all that for free besides the electric motors. Average month e-bill is about 50$.

I imagine where you're talking about rent and elec alone is past the 1000 mark.

It's still not that great a salary. There are guys with a couple years of trade school making more than you. You should be pissed that you busted your ass for at least 4 years in a difficult major, for peanuts.
 

kornphlake

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Hehe you guys are reading wayyy too far into hypotheticals. Rephrase. A car that's the next step between the cartoony teen cars (Soul, Mazda 3, Fiesta, you know the ones) that also aren't 60-70k. There has to be a good middle ground car in there for those that are young but in the market for a new car that looks nice, isn't for grandma, and isn't designed around people that think lights flashing around their speakers is the best thing since sliced bread. Geeze i figured there was more Gen Y out there than that . I figure for most people in this economy that will come there abouts to 25-30k. I didn't see where it was that hard of a question .

Hmm, not cartoony, not flashy, not 60-70k, middle ground, looks nice... How about a Ford Fusion, Chevy Malibu, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima or VW Passat? How about one of the crossovers, a wagon or a cute ute? It's not like there's a huge gap between $18k and $60K, there are dozens of options that aren't compact econoboxes and don't cost as much as a Mercedes. Pick one you like and start saving, I'm not sure why you're making this so difficult.
 

heymrdj

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Hmm, not cartoony, not flashy, not 60-70k, middle ground, looks nice... How about a Ford Fusion, Chevy Malibu, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima or VW Passat? How about one of the crossovers, a wagon or a cute ute? It's not like there's a huge gap between $18k and $60K, there are dozens of options that aren't compact econoboxes and don't cost as much as a Mercedes. Pick one you like and start saving, I'm not sure why you're making this so difficult.

It's a generals thread, not just me. Just was seeing what was considered more of the standard cars that stood out on the entry to middle class level. Again a hypothetical thread meant to breed discussion over the class of cars, not settle in on my paychecks

It's still not that great a salary. There are guys with a couple years of trade school making more than you. You should be pissed that you busted your ass for at least 4 years in a difficult major, for peanuts.

Wow what United States do you live in where college students are getting out of college with no experience other than remedial jobs and getting handed 50k salaries on a silver platter? Programmers/mathematics? maybe. IT? nah. And I'm still getting my masters so that doesn't help either. A majority of it will get better when I'm not locked to FW. For personal reasons I'm stuck here for another year or so, and by then I'll have about 2 years of professional work under my belt where I should be able to move to a better location more giving of those large salaries. Right now, I certainly don't do anything worth a higher pay scale. VmWare View and the like isn't rocket science by any stretch of the imagination, nor are thin clients/thin app setups.
 

exdeath

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318/325/328i with blue tape over the headlight lenses and some 20" chrome rims.
 

BoberFett

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Who do you thinks sits down with the customer to gather specs, load ranges, future uses ect ect? If I'm putting the system together that the team will later come in and build, I want a 1 on 1 with the client to understand clear cut what they need/want/afford ect. Too many times the details are lost in the paperwork. Alot of stuff like this needs a human touch to the computer side.

You have some strange notions about your profession. You're technical, not sales. And if you're just out of college and think you'll be doing a 1 on 1 with the client anytime soon, you're going to be surprised. If you're with any kind of decent sized, reputable company you'll have a couple of software guys (OS, SQL, Exchange, etc) plus a salesman or two.

I met with a virtualization team a month or two ago while they were putting in some hardware for me. Most of them were wearing company polo shirts. I don't even know what kind of cars they drove and I didn't care.

You sound eager, and that's good, but be realistic about your position.
 
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