Carson Briere, the wheelchair vandal

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allisolm

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I saw that yesterday and am glad to see that he and the others with him were suspended from their sports teams. I hope those suspensions hold up. There's just no excuse for that kind of behavior.
 
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pauldun170

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"accepts full responsibility for his behavior"
What this means is that for a very brief period in his life, he will not complain about being unable to play on a college sports team for a very short period of time. He will be forced to endure a couple of dirty looks for a few weeks during the semester. Eventually he graduates college and lands a job thanks to his family connections.

He will then proceed to live the rest of his life despite having severe character flaws that are inherent in the type of person who would push a fucking wheelchair down a flight of stairs and walk away.
 

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"accepts full responsibility for his behavior"
What this means is that for a very brief period in his life, he will not complain about being unable to play on a college sports team for a very short period of time. He will be forced to endure a couple of dirty looks for a few weeks during the semester. Eventually he graduates college and lands a job thanks to his family connections.

He will then proceed to live the rest of his life despite having severe character flaws that are inherent in the type of person who would push a fucking wheelchair down a flight of stairs and walk away.

So, this asshole is someone FelixdeCat would idealize?
 
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iRONic

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Maybe Sullivan's could bring their establishment up to the ADA STANDARDS.

It's 2023 ffs.
 
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Anybody interested in how this kid came to regard himself as the arbitrator of a disabled person’s wheelchair. That’s a pretty extreme level of entitlement. Is he genetically defective or perhaps expressing the result of being raised by the walking dead?
 

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Maybe Sullivan's could bring their establishment up to the ADA STANDARDS. It's 2023 ffs.

We stayed at the "W" Hotel in San Diego in...2005. At the time they had a night club that required a person to climb a long set of stairs for access. I found a way to get there via elevator...but was refused entrance. "Sorry, you have to go back to the lobby and come up the stairs." I walk with a cane...and stairs aren't my friend, so when I put in a call to the manager of the hotel about this, I got profuse apologies and our room was refunded. (they REALLY didn't want me contacting an ADA lawyer)

When I first saw this story, I thought "Fuck that guy. Why isn't he in jail?" I thought the lady was in the wheelchair when he pushed it down the stairs. Now that I know it was JUST her chair...I still stick with "Fuck that guy," but believe that kicking him off the college team seems appropriate.
 

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Anybody interested in how this kid came to regard himself as the arbitrator of a disabled person’s wheelchair. That’s a pretty extreme level of entitlement. Is he genetically defective or perhaps expressing the result of being raised by the walking dead?
Trump led the way in mocking the differently abled. There's a place in the Republican Party waiting for him.
 

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What you see in that picture is a live demonstration of how emotionally handicapped Trump actually is. It may look like he is ridiculing a reporter but what he is actually doing is mirroring the kind of ridicule he faced as a child if he demonstrated any sympathy for others that, his father most likely, did not have and couldn't tolerate seeing in others. What I see is a very very sad and crippled man, but one that should never have emotional control over other people and certainly never ever be elected as President.

A country that would elect such a person is a country full of huge numbers of similarly emotionally damaged people in deep denial about the depth of the revenge they seek as payback for the damage similarly wreaked on them.
 

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Pushing a disabled person down a set of stairs should qualify you for isolation for life right there.. Common, this is not his first, not gonna be his last time doing some weird ass depraved shit. He likely graduated from animals a week before this incident. Probably not someone you want walking around in gen pub.
 

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When I first saw this story, I thought "Fuck that guy. Why isn't he in jail?" I thought the lady was in the wheelchair when he pushed it down the stairs. Now that I know it was JUST her chair...I still stick with "Fuck that guy," but believe that kicking him off the college team seems appropriate.
If he was poor, or not white, he'd have gone to jail IMHO.
What he did is destruction of property, possibly felony depending on the cost of repairs. I think he should have been arrested and charged TBH.
Probably not someone you want walking around in gen pub.
She wasn't in the chair FWIW, but it's still some really entitled and demented behavior.
 
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iRONic

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We stayed at the "W" Hotel in San Diego in...2005. At the time they had a night club that required a person to climb a long set of stairs for access. I found a way to get there via elevator...but was refused entrance. "Sorry, you have to go back to the lobby and come up the stairs." I walk with a cane...and stairs aren't my friend, so when I put in a call to the manager of the hotel about this, I got profuse apologies and our room was refunded. (they REALLY didn't want me contacting an ADA lawyer)
MS finally finally chained me to this chair in 2000. I used a cane earlier in my progression also.

We’ve had so many *non-accessible* incidents in our family outings I could write a book!

Daddy Briere would have to pony up a large pile of cash if his punkass kid managed to push me & this chair down those stairs. That’s AFTER I sued Sullivan’s!

 

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MS finally finally chained me to this chair in 2000. I used a cane earlier in my progression also.

We’ve had so many *non-accessible* incidents in our family outings I could write a book!

Daddy Briere would have to pony up a large pile of cash if his punkass kid managed to push me & this chair down those stairs. That’s AFTER I sued Sullivan’s!

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I think it needs to be highlighted. It was an empty wheelchair, the chair's user was not in it at the time. (edited for wording)

I do think it was shitty, and I think maybe a suspension from the team would be fine, but I also think we should show some restraint. They were at a bar/club/party and very possibly inebriated (not that that makes shitty behavior ok, but I mean look at the Hangover movies or the worship for old rock stars and their awful behavior, we absolutely, as a society celebrate drunken assholery), and they basically tapped it/pushed it a bit and it rolled and then flipped over going down the stairs. They didn't jump in it Jackass style or set out to see how much they can destroy it (I'm guessing they didn't realize how much it could damage it). He hasn't tried to excuse it (even by saying "it was dumb and I was drunk" or anything), even if he did seem to just offer a legalize "I'm sorry for my actions and those affected", but we've definitely seen a lot worse responses.

There does seem to be some other possible behavior (since he was kicked off of Arizona State team for behavior), so some scrutiny might be warranted. But, as shitty as it was, I don't see anything there worthy of making him a total pariah over.

Make him pay for the repairs/new chair and some community service with differently abled (edited for phrasing) persons, maybe him and his dad use their status to do PSAs to bring awareness to how much simple stupidity can impact other people.

Maybe, if they (by they I mean the person who's wheelchair he damaged) are willing, have him spend some time (like a full day or more) with the person he affected by damaging their wheelchair so he can understand how such behavior can impact that person.

If I were the kid's dad I'd like to think I'd offer to take the victim and her family on a nice outing (whatever her interest is, amusement park, concert, sports, or whatever) and then make my son have to see the difficulties they have to deal with in the process so that they can understand why pushing their wheelchair down the stairs is so shitty. Hell, maybe buy her a new wheelchair and make him have to try to get around using the old one so he can see first hand the struggle.

I'm glad some people mentioned the fucked up situation that necessitated the (edited for phrasing) person leaving their chair at the top of the stairs in the first place. Weird the bar singling out the behavior, they should face some scrutiny for their facilities. I'm guessing there might have been a police report or something and so the bar did it to try and save their own butts?
 
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