Carson would use Dept of Education to censor US colleges.

senseamp

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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...-would-use-department-of-education-to-monitor

“I actually have something I would use the Department of Education to do,” Carson said on Glenn Beck’s radio show on Wednesday.

“Would it be pack boxes for the State Department? The IRS?” Beck joked.

“No, it would be to monitor our institutions of higher education for extreme political bias and deny federal funding if it exists,” he responded.

“I like that,” Beck rejoined.
Small government GOP for you.


It's been bugging me for a couple of days, so I fixed "sensor" to the correct spelling. I should change the OP's name to censeamp while I'm at it. -DrPizza
 
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Can anyone even imagine the right wing freakout if Hillary said something like "I'm going to use the federal department of education to investigate colleges for political bias"? I think the internet would run out of Hitler pictures.

Since Carson is on their political sports team I imagine there will be barely a peep.

Kind of like how the Dems used the IRS to selectively audit people that donated to the Republican Party?
 

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Can anyone even imagine the right wing freakout if Hillary said something like "I'm going to use the federal department of education to investigate colleges for political bias"? I think the internet would run out of Hitler pictures.

Since Carson is on their political sports team I imagine there will be barely a peep.

Not just this, but from the article -

Carson also said he would "intensify" the war on drugs and send a "stabilizing" military force back into Iraq if elected

Yeah sounds like two great ideas..... D:
 

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Can anyone even imagine the right wing freakout if Hillary said something like "I'm going to use the federal department of education to investigate colleges for political bias"? I think the internet would run out of Hitler pictures.

Since Carson is on their political sports team I imagine there will be barely a peep.

No one would really freak out, everyone knows colleges lean left (some severely so). It'd be like: I'm going to have the Water Dept. that I've chosen the admin for monitor the water coming out of the water treatment plant. OK? And?
 

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The College of New Jersey, Women’s and Gender Studies: EcoFeminism
University of Maine, Economics Department: Marxian Economics
University of Illinois Champaign-Urbana, Women’s and Gender Studies: Interrogating Masculinities
University of Illinois Champaign-Urbana, Women’s and Gender Studies: Locating Queer Culture

Just some of the wackiest examples.

Then there are public schools opening centers for illegal immigrants (Cal State Long Beach), then there are the liberal speakers... and more but you can use google.

What oversight is there now? Should public universities have reputations as bastions of liberal learning?
 

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No one would really freak out, everyone knows colleges lean left (some severely so). It'd be like: I'm going to have the Water Dept. that I've chosen the admin for monitor the water coming out of the water treatment plant. OK? And?

lol. I bet.

Considering the blizzard of persecution fantasies based on absolutely nothing that conservatives cooked up since Obama was elected I can only imagine what would happen if a Democratic president actually tried to persecute some colleges.
 

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No one would really freak out, everyone knows colleges lean left (some severely so). It'd be like: I'm going to have the Water Dept. that I've chosen the admin for monitor the water coming out of the water treatment plant. OK? And?

There's a pretty big difference between colleges leaning left and the govt making sure that they do.
 
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No one would really freak out, everyone knows colleges lean left (some severely so). It'd be like: I'm going to have the Water Dept. that I've chosen the admin for monitor the water coming out of the water treatment plant. OK? And?

More like "I'm going to have the water department turn off the water to anyone who says anything bad about me".
Colleges have always been progressive its part of being young.
Scandal not found we all know neither of these guys are competent.
 

senseamp

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The College of New Jersey, Women’s and Gender Studies: EcoFeminism
University of Maine, Economics Department: Marxian Economics
University of Illinois Champaign-Urbana, Women’s and Gender Studies: Interrogating Masculinities
University of Illinois Champaign-Urbana, Women’s and Gender Studies: Locating Queer Culture

Just some of the wackiest examples.

Then there are public schools opening centers for illegal immigrants (Cal State Long Beach), then there are the liberal speakers... and more but you can use google.

What oversight is there now? Should public universities have reputations as bastions of liberal learning?

My university sure did, and I got a great engineering education there.
But I guess you want government monitors sitting in classes and reporting to Dept of Education what is said and taught, and then the government applying financial pressure to those who say things it considers to be "extreme?"
 

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lol. I bet.

Considering the blizzard of persecution fantasies based on absolutely nothing that conservatives cooked up since Obama was elected I can only imagine what would happen if a Democratic president actually tried to persecute some colleges.

Bah, least of their worries. Even if they were concerned, you could just redefine the meaning of words so they'd be complaining about something unrelated. By the time they even realize how their concern has been relegated to the minority by sustained social indoctrination, the media will have a new issue whipped up involved millions killed by AK-47s and exploding shells from clips distracting the right sheeple and enraging the left sheeple. Rinse. Repeat.

In short: Don't worry, your lefty indoctrination camps are safe...
 

fskimospy

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Bah, least of their worries. Even if they we concerned, you could just redefine the meaning of words to they'd be complaining about something unrelated. By the time they even realize how their concern has been relegated to the minority by sustained social indoctrination, the media will have a new issue whipped up involved millions killed by AK-47s and exploding shells from clips distracting the right sheeple and enraging the left sheeple. Rinse. Repeat.

In short: Don't worry, your lefty indoctrination camps are safe...

Serious question: do you actually believe this sort of shit?
 

chucky2

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There's a pretty big difference between colleges leaning left and the govt making sure that they do.

More like "I'm going to have the water department turn off the water to anyone who says anything bad about me".
Colleges have always been progressive its part of being young.
Scandal not found we all know neither of these guys are competent.

Like I said, wouldn't worry about it. Any sane Gov worker would be too busy taking advantage of all the weed and tail running around on their Gov salary to be too busy reporting crazy lefty talk. Just enough to have job justification (like welfare abuse), nothing more... :biggrin:
 

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Dude, have you not seen the insanity that is the media and Politicians? I know you like to Nick, but do you really believe all the shit they push out?

I'm not even sure what that means, but I'll take that as a yes, which... holy shit.
 
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And this is why College isn't paid for by the government. So they can't stick their dick in it and pollute it with their ideas, teachings, and bureaucracy.
 

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I'm not sure what's more amusing: these two nuts talking about "extreme political bias" like it somehow applies to 'those others,' or that people are still listening to Beck to begin with. Are my ears messing with me, did both men somehow forget to mention Hitler? Wow.

Strange that Carson isn't a bigger hit with the Koch Bros. Meddling with academia along political lines is something they definitely believe in.
 

kage69

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Hrmm. As a man who relies on medical science to make his living, if Carson was the least bit honest he'd include religious colleges in his statement. Or is he working the crowd? Regardless, christian histrionics and their molestation of science(s) is a bigger threat to the country's future well-being than anything offered at a *gasp* liberal college.

Or have I missed politicians justifying their views and actions with what they learned in EcoFeminism 101?

No. Carson seems to be engaging his mouth before his Hitler-obsessed brain. He attaches government oversight to federal subsidies, and then when a non-right wing admin later says "Wait, we're paying how much just so holy rollers can spend semesters writing about Thomas Aquinas!?" Screw you Patrick Henry. Eat a dick Pensacola Bible College.

Yeah, the wealthy christian culture warriors would just looooove that....
 
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What oversight is there now? Should public universities have reputations as bastions of liberal learning?

Should the Federal Government really decide what you may or may not be taught?

The irony is that even if you agree with this someone will eventually get into office that has a completely opposite view that you do and will be able to censor the stuff you agree with and push the stuff you don't.

At the college level, excluding STEM's (I think that's the abbreviation), people should be free to learn what they want. The last thing we want is to open the door for some asshole to ban the teaching of evolution or competing cosmological theories or whatever. Proving shit is false is how a lot of scientific progress is made but you have to know the false shit in order to prove it otherwise. As for the arts, there is no real falsification, I don't want some council of ever-changing assholes dictating what is or is not acceptable.
 

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Remember, by not allowing him to censor, you are censoring him - how DARE you oppress him by not letting him oppress!?!
 

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The really weird thing is, that when you weigh Carson against Trump, Trump looks pretty damn good.
Carson WILL NOT be president nor the republican choice. Not in our lifetime.

What I think is happening here with Carson, is that far right wing religious fundie Republicans are still to this day very baffled and confused just how Obama was elected president.
And twice, at that.

So makes sense with the mindset of the right wing religious fundies and their way of thinking, that for them Obama and the democrats must have had some gimmick going for them that the extreme far right wing must also tap into.
So, with they way they think, Obama obviously could not have simply been the best man for the job, there must have been something else.
And that something else had to have been that American voters simply love a black president?
And thus... say hello to Ben Carson.
The guy that is going to win the whitehouse and save their day.
The sure bet.
The operative "gimmick" that worked so well for Obama, and no doubt will also work for them too i.e. Ben Carson.
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