Carter is just plain looney lately

[piasabird]

How many terrorists has Carter ever Caught or killed?

How many terrorist has Bush ever Caught or killed?

Carter was a failure of a president who let Iran take his embassy staff hostage and did absolutely nothing to get them back. Any History teacher will tell you that Carter was the worst president we ever had. He was a coward.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: piasabird
How many terrorists has Carter ever Caught or killed?

How many terrorist has Bush ever Caught or killed?

Carter was a failure of a president who let Iran take his embassy staff hostage and did absolutely nothing to get them back. Any History teacher will tell you that Carter was the worst president we ever had. He was a coward.

As opposed to Reagan, who arranged for weapons sales to the terrorists that kidnapped the embassy staff and made sure they weren't released until after the election.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: piasabird
How many terrorists has Carter ever Caught or killed?

How many terrorist has Bush ever Caught or killed?

Carter was a failure of a president who let Iran take his embassy staff hostage and did absolutely nothing to get them back. Any History teacher will tell you that Carter was the worst president we ever had. He was a coward.

How many terrorists has Bush created? All of Iraq's recruiting grounds' worth : ).

How many have Carter created?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: piasabird
How many terrorists has Carter ever Caught or killed?

How many terrorist has Bush ever Caught or killed?

Carter was a failure of a president who let Iran take his embassy staff hostage and did absolutely nothing to get them back. Any History teacher will tell you that Carter was the worst president we ever had. He was a coward.

They would have until Bush became President. He has now surpassed Carter by ten fold.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: piasabird
How many terrorists has Carter ever Caught or killed?

How many terrorist has Bush ever Caught or killed?

Carter was a failure of a president who let Iran take his embassy staff hostage and did absolutely nothing to get them back. Any History teacher will tell you that Carter was the worst president we ever had. He was a coward.

How was Carter a coward?

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
"I think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history," Carter told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in a story that appeared in the newspaper's Saturday editions. "The overt reversal of America's basic values as expressed by previous administrations, including those of George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and others, has been the most disturbing to me."

Frankly its distressing for a former President to speak against a sitting President like this, but the vileness of the Democrat hatred towards Bush has been so extreme its turned bizarre. I mean, really, Bush does some things to drive us all mad, only Carter is off his meds.

Ever since he got that bogus Nobel peace prize he has been a belligerent little turd that should back to looking for the UFOs he reported having seen.

An alternative explanation is that Bush really is the worst President ever. So bad that Carter couldn't contain himself.

Funny how that possibility never occurs to the ideological right.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Shivetya
"I think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history," Carter told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in a story that appeared in the newspaper's Saturday editions. "The overt reversal of America's basic values as expressed by previous administrations, including those of George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and others, has been the most disturbing to me."

Frankly its distressing for a former President to speak against a sitting President like this, but the vileness of the Democrat hatred towards Bush has been so extreme its turned bizarre. I mean, really, Bush does some things to drive us all mad, only Carter is off his meds.

Ever since he got that bogus Nobel peace prize he has been a belligerent little turd that should back to looking for the UFOs he reported having seen.

An alternative explanation is that Bush really is the worst President ever. So bad that Carter couldn't contain himself.

Funny how that possibility never occurs to the ideological right.

Ideologues don't have ideas occur to them. Ideas are dangerous. Dogma is the way. Once you have dogma then all you need is obedience.

IMO, Carter wasn't a very good President; arguably a good man but not a very good President. Reagan was probably a better than average President but arguably his greatest achievement (collapse of Soviet Union) is roughly on par with Bill Clinton's greatest achievement (great economy). Both did a few things to help it along and largely avoided gaffes to derail it. But both benefited from factors well outside their control that were far more germane to the final outcome.

IMO, both Clinton and Bush41 were average Presidents. To the contrary, Bush43's policies are a disaster . . . virtually ALL of them. The problem with the radical right and left is they have difficulty comprehending the difference between absolute disdain for an individual's public policies and the individual. It's very easy to HATE what Bush43 has done to America (and the world) without hating the man himself. The problem is that zealots on the right think he's goodness incarnate, while zealots on the left swear he's the anti-Christ or at least Hitler.

 

[Pabster]

Well, what a surprise. The old peanut farmer now says his comments were "careless" and tries to spin his words.

Every time he opens his mouth the foot gets shoved down a little further.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Interviewed on the TODAY Show about the comments, Carter said, "They were maybe careless or misinterpreted." He said he ?certainly was not talking personally about any president.?

When pressed by NBC?s Meredith Vieira as to whether he was saying his remarks were careless or reckless, the former president said, ?I think they were, yes, because they were interpreted as comparing this whole administration to all other administrations."

In essence, he's NOT retracting his statements. He's saying Bush43 is worse than any recent Republican.

Carter said he was answering a question about the foreign policy of former President Richard Nixon, as compared with that of the current administration. He said he wasn't comparing the Bush administration with all those through American history. But in comparison to Nixon's, the Bush administration's foreign policy "was much worse," Carter said.

You people really should read what you link.

 

[ProfJohn]

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Interviewed on the TODAY Show about the comments, Carter said, "They were maybe careless or misinterpreted." He said he ?certainly was not talking personally about any president.?

When pressed by NBC?s Meredith Vieira as to whether he was saying his remarks were careless or reckless, the former president said, ?I think they were, yes, because they were interpreted as comparing this whole administration to all other administrations."

Carter said he was answering a question about the foreign policy of former President Richard Nixon, as compared with that of the current administration. He said he wasn't comparing the Bush administration with all those through American history. But in comparison to Nixon's, the Bush administration's foreign policy "was much worse," Carter said.

So Bush isn't the worst in history, just worse than Nixon. Seems to be what Carter is trying to imply. hmmmmm

Funny how you guys are running to defend what he said while Carter is saying his remarks were "careless or misinterpreted"
Perhaps some of you would like to take this chance to amend your remarks and perhaps agree with Carter now. Or do you only agree with Carter when he is saying negative things about Bush?

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Well, what a surprise. The old peanut farmer now says his comments were "careless" and tries to spin his words.

Every time he opens his mouth the foot gets shoved down a little further.

Like every politician, when people like you freak out over it, he is trying to stop the nonsensical attention people like you are giving.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
link

Interviewed on the TODAY Show about the comments, Carter said, "They were maybe careless or misinterpreted." He said he ?certainly was not talking personally about any president.?

When pressed by NBC?s Meredith Vieira as to whether he was saying his remarks were careless or reckless, the former president said, ?I think they were, yes, because they were interpreted as comparing this whole administration to all other administrations."

Carter said he was answering a question about the foreign policy of former President Richard Nixon, as compared with that of the current administration. He said he wasn't comparing the Bush administration with all those through American history. But in comparison to Nixon's, the Bush administration's foreign policy "was much worse," Carter said.

So Bush isn't the worst in history, just worse than Nixon. Seems to be what Carter is trying to imply. hmmmmm

Funny how you guys are running to defend what he said while Carter is saying his remarks were "careless or misinterpreted"
Perhaps some of you would like to take this chance to amend your remarks and perhaps agree with Carter now. Or do you only agree with Carter when he is saying negative things about Bush?

Do you understand what you read? It sounds like Carter is saying his remarks were careless b/c they were open to misinterpretation. In essence, he REALLY thinks Bush's foreign policy sux. It sux in abstract . . . maybe not the worst ever but certainly bad. Carter was answering a question where his intent was to say Bush's policies are bad in direct comparison to several Republican predecessors. The Today Show excerpt mentions Nixon but Carter's broader comments also mentioned Reagan and GHWBush, IIRC.

 

[LegendKiller]

Either that or he said what he should have said and now thinks he caused too big of a stir.

Personally, I think that we need more people like Carter to come out and openly criticize and chastise this administration. The more people realize how horrible it is the sooner the teeth will get pulled and the sooner we can get back to where we should be.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
link

Interviewed on the TODAY Show about the comments, Carter said, "They were maybe careless or misinterpreted." He said he ?certainly was not talking personally about any president.?

When pressed by NBC?s Meredith Vieira as to whether he was saying his remarks were careless or reckless, the former president said, ?I think they were, yes, because they were interpreted as comparing this whole administration to all other administrations."

Carter said he was answering a question about the foreign policy of former President Richard Nixon, as compared with that of the current administration. He said he wasn't comparing the Bush administration with all those through American history. But in comparison to Nixon's, the Bush administration's foreign policy "was much worse," Carter said.

So Bush isn't the worst in history, just worse than Nixon. Seems to be what Carter is trying to imply. hmmmmm

Funny how you guys are running to defend what he said while Carter is saying his remarks were "careless or misinterpreted"
Perhaps some of you would like to take this chance to amend your remarks and perhaps agree with Carter now. Or do you only agree with Carter when he is saying negative things about Bush?

In my lifetime Bush is definately the worse.

 

[spittledip]

What got him to back down? If he said what he believes at the first, then he should have stuck to his guns, no matter what other people think about it. I agree with his first statement. He is cowardly to back down now. Can you think of an administration that has done worse in terms of our relationship with other nations and damage done to other nations? The only thing that i can think of that compares is when we dropped the bombs on Japan in WW2.

edit: Then the White House calls Carter increasingly irrelevant b/c of the comments. That is too funny. What a low blow. I guess Carter should have stuck to his housing stuff rather than make comments as there is no real need for it. I guess some one was looking 0ofr a sound bite and approached him?

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: spittledip
What got him to back down? If he said what he believes at the first, then he should have stuck to his guns, no matter what other people think about it. I agree with his first statement. He is cowardly to back down now. Can you think of an administration that has done worse in terms of our relationship with other nations and damage done to other nations? The only thing that i can think of that compares is when we dropped the bombs on Japan in WW2.

edit: Then the White House calls Carter increasingly irrelevant b/c of the comments. That is too funny. What a low blow. I guess Carter should have stuck to his housing stuff rather than make comments as there is no real need for it. I guess some one was looking 0ofr a sound bite and approached him?

I don't blame him for not wanting to deal with raving lunatics who can't handle his honesty. If you think that makes him a "coward", so be it...

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: Shivetya
"I think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history," Carter told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in a story that appeared in the newspaper's Saturday editions. "The overt reversal of America's basic values as expressed by previous administrations, including those of George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and others, has been the most disturbing to me."

Frankly its distressing for a former President to speak against a sitting President like this, but the vileness of the Democrat hatred towards Bush has been so extreme its turned bizarre. I mean, really, Bush does some things to drive us all mad, only Carter is off his meds.

Ever since he got that bogus Nobel peace prize he has been a belligerent little turd that should back to looking for the UFOs he reported having seen.

Believe me it isn't that people irrationally hate Bush. People are critical of him and his adminstration because of his war in Iraq and his incompetence at running the government.

Carter is not saying anything that every day I hear and read about GWB.

Carter is a an Ex-President who hasn't stopped meddling in other President's affairs. He went completely around Clinton with North Korea and we are still paying for that damn stunt today.

He was a miserabe President who only had one good thing come out of his Adminstration (Egypt/Israel peace accords - Camp David). His economic policies were horrid and his internation moves were abysmal as well. Hell, he just sucked. We were glad to rid ourselves of him as our Govenor, we just didn't think he had it in him to screw up a whole country (boy we're we wrong)

Carter is just an angry old man who gets press because he bashes Bush. Just like Sheehan, if he changed his targets to Democrat leaders we would never hear about him again.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: Shivetya
"I think as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history," Carter told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in a story that appeared in the newspaper's Saturday editions. "The overt reversal of America's basic values as expressed by previous administrations, including those of George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and others, has been the most disturbing to me."

Frankly its distressing for a former President to speak against a sitting President like this, but the vileness of the Democrat hatred towards Bush has been so extreme its turned bizarre. I mean, really, Bush does some things to drive us all mad, only Carter is off his meds.

Ever since he got that bogus Nobel peace prize he has been a belligerent little turd that should back to looking for the UFOs he reported having seen.

Believe me it isn't that people irrationally hate Bush. People are critical of him and his adminstration because of his war in Iraq and his incompetence at running the government.

Carter is not saying anything that every day I hear and read about GWB.

Carter is a an Ex-President who hasn't stopped meddling in other President's affairs. He went completely around Clinton with North Korea and we are still paying for that damn stunt today.

He was a miserabe President who only had one good thing come out of his Adminstration (Egypt/Israel peace accords - Camp David). His economic policies were horrid and his internation moves were abysmal as well. Hell, he just sucked. We were glad to rid ourselves of him as our Govenor, we just didn't think he had it in him to screw up a whole country (boy we're we wrong)

Carter is just an angry old man who gets press because he bashes Bush. Just like Sheehan, if he changed his targets to Democrat leaders we would never hear about him again.

How is giving an opinion meddling exactly?

You are the one that seems angry.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Carter is a an Ex-President who hasn't stopped meddling in other President's affairs. He went completely around Clinton with North Korea and we are still paying for that damn stunt today.

He was a miserabe President who only had one good thing come out of his Adminstration (Egypt/Israel peace accords - Camp David). His economic policies were horrid and his internation moves were abysmal as well. Hell, he just sucked. We were glad to rid ourselves of him as our Govenor, we just didn't think he had it in him to screw up a whole country (boy we're we wrong)

Carter is just an angry old man who gets press because he bashes Bush. Just like Sheehan, if he changed his targets to Democrat leaders we would never hear about him again.

Carter is an American citizen, and unless the Bushwhackos succeed in their quest to shred the U.S. Constitution, being an ex-President doesn't remove his First Amendment right to free speech.

In other words, you're full of Bull, Shivetya. :laugh:

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: spittledip
What got him to back down? If he said what he believes at the first, then he should have stuck to his guns, no matter what other people think about it. I agree with his first statement. He is cowardly to back down now. Can you think of an administration that has done worse in terms of our relationship with other nations and damage done to other nations? The only thing that i can think of that compares is when we dropped the bombs on Japan in WW2.

edit: Then the White House calls Carter increasingly irrelevant b/c of the comments. That is too funny. What a low blow. I guess Carter should have stuck to his housing stuff rather than make comments as there is no real need for it. I guess some one was looking 0ofr a sound bite and approached him?

I don't blame him for not wanting to deal with raving lunatics who can't handle his honesty. If you think that makes him a "coward", so be it...

But he is lying and backing down from what he said. That is kind of pathetic. Better not to make a statement at all than to make a statement and lie about it and back down. That is more than cowardly actually.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: spittledip
What got him to back down? If he said what he believes at the first, then he should have stuck to his guns, no matter what other people think about it. I agree with his first statement. He is cowardly to back down now. Can you think of an administration that has done worse in terms of our relationship with other nations and damage done to other nations? The only thing that i can think of that compares is when we dropped the bombs on Japan in WW2.

edit: Then the White House calls Carter increasingly irrelevant b/c of the comments. That is too funny. What a low blow. I guess Carter should have stuck to his housing stuff rather than make comments as there is no real need for it. I guess some one was looking 0ofr a sound bite and approached him?

I don't blame him for not wanting to deal with raving lunatics who can't handle his honesty. If you think that makes him a "coward", so be it...

But he is lying and backing down from what he said. That is kind of pathetic. Better not to make a statement at all than to make a statement and lie about it and back down. That is more than cowardly actually.

The "backing down" was explained by my post.. please show where he lied.

 

[Lemon law]

Ever since Carter had the nerve to criticize Israel for being a big part of the problem in the mid-east, he has been a marked man. And no effort is spared to belittle him to the point of total transparency. Sadly, the end judgment of history usually differs from the passions of the moment. And in the grand scheme of things, what Carter recently said will be largely at best a footnote in some history book. Political spin may rule the day but will hold little sway in the later more sober judgment of history.

But deny it all you want, we can pretty well bet the Carter position here is almost certainly going to be the judgment of history. The relevant question is what it will COST we the people of the United Sates for our collective failure to stop the stinking thinking of GWB&co.

But the price looks too high already---what will be the final cost in terms of human lives, money, misery, and US prestige?

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: spittledip
What got him to back down? If he said what he believes at the first, then he should have stuck to his guns, no matter what other people think about it. I agree with his first statement. He is cowardly to back down now. Can you think of an administration that has done worse in terms of our relationship with other nations and damage done to other nations? The only thing that i can think of that compares is when we dropped the bombs on Japan in WW2.

edit: Then the White House calls Carter increasingly irrelevant b/c of the comments. That is too funny. What a low blow. I guess Carter should have stuck to his housing stuff rather than make comments as there is no real need for it. I guess some one was looking 0ofr a sound bite and approached him?

I don't blame him for not wanting to deal with raving lunatics who can't handle his honesty. If you think that makes him a "coward", so be it...

But he is lying and backing down from what he said. That is kind of pathetic. Better not to make a statement at all than to make a statement and lie about it and back down. That is more than cowardly actually.

The "backing down" was explained by my post.. please show where he lied.

You can't be serious? Fine, for the sake of the blind:

Interviewed on the TODAY Show about the comments, Carter said, "They were maybe careless or misinterpreted." He said he ?certainly was not talking personally about any president.?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Carter is drifting into the realm of truthiness. He is getting a bit old and old people tend to ramble from time to time . . . but Carter was CLEARLY talking about the POLICIES of particular Presidents. Again, the primary problem is for the looney fringe right that doesn't understand that Carter is criticizing the poor POLICIES not Bush personally.

"And I think Richard Nixon had a very good and productive foreign policy and my remarks were maybe careless or misinterpreted.

He basically backed up to say what the looney fringe would prefer but most moderates and Democrats think is too mild. In this statement Carter is basically saying Bush's foreign policy is bad and unproductive. And again, it would only be the looney fringe right that would disagree with that characterization of Bush's foreign policy.

Further, IIRC . . . Carter went on to contrast Bush's environmental policies as well. What are the odds that a Bush43 administration would have CREATED the EPA?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
Carter is just an angry old man who gets press because he bashes Bush. Just like Sheehan, if he changed his targets to Democrat leaders we would never hear about him again.

:thumbsup:

Sadly, however, Carter is ex-POTUS and his words and actions are seen by many around the world as representative of, and representing, the United States. It is a shame he doesn't take his responsibilities seriously. Then again, look at his record, particularly vis-a-vi foreign affairs. Nothing to write home about, for sure.