Casino Royale on Blu Ray

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BigJ

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
A 2 to 1 sales margin really isn't that great, considering the hardware advantage blu-ray has with the ps3

If anything, it's only going to get larger. People keep on saying how the PS3 is selling so poorly in the console war, but it's a great advantage with the HD war. Add to that the numbers are highly favoring BR this month with the new titles coming out (none on HD DVD), along with cheaper standalone players for BR around the corner, and you're looking at things that are seriously helping BR.

Children of Men, HD-DVD exclusive, is coming out this month

They must've moved up the released date on it. The sites I had checked last month didn't have anything slated for March. I'm also seeing Happy Feet and a few others.
 

Toonces

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Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Tell me where you can get a $200 Blu-ray player, then we'll talk.

How about $499?
So a $100 premium for Blu-ray over HD DVD. I own neither - nor a HDTV even; but can see Blu-ray eventually being the 'winning' format considering it's advantages as a storage format in addition to the AV field.

 

NaOH

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man i hope th hd-dvd drive my gf doesn't turn into a very large paper weight
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: NaOH
man i hope th hd-dvd drive my gf doesn't turn into a very large paper weight

Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. The companies may be too vested in their own technologies to give up before the next few years are over. By that time, we should have cheap HD/BR players just like DVD players.
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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look at it this way:
Universal Pictures is the only exclusive to HD-DVD
Sony, Fox, Lionsgate, and Disney are exclusive to BD

Disney has a few SMASH hits releasing on BD in the coming months, and both Sony and Fox always have a few huge releases.

Sony plans to bring a BD player at the $300 pricepoint by the end of the year, likely sooner than that considering they are already bringing a $500 player to market very soon.

and people arguing the low ratio of hardware sales to software sales, realize that not every PS3 owner will buy BD because not every owner either believes in adopting a new format, OR does not have an HDTV and views said formats as worthless for themselves.

I am sticking to BD and at this point just don't see HD-DVD challenging the format
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: UNESC0
Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Tell me where you can get a $200 Blu-ray player, then we'll talk.

How about $499?
So a $100 premium for Blu-ray over HD DVD. I own neither - nor a HDTV even; but can see Blu-ray eventually being the 'winning' format considering it's advantages as a storage format in addition to the AV field.

I paid only $165 shipped for my hd-dvd drive.
 

Blayze

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
A 2 to 1 sales margin really isn't that great, considering the hardware advantage blu-ray has with the ps3

If anything, it's only going to get larger. People keep on saying how the PS3 is selling so poorly in the console war, but it's a great advantage with the HD war. Add to that the numbers are highly favoring BR this month with the new titles coming out (none on HD DVD), along with cheaper standalone players for BR around the corner, and you're looking at things that are seriously helping BR.

Whoever makes it to the $250-$300 plateau first will win. PS3 or not, $300 or so is the critical price point for many, many buyers. A 2:1 advantage on what is out now is a drop in the bucket compared to what the market will be when either of these technologies hits the mainstream.

If the Chinese manufacturers start ramping up production on cheap BR players and have firmware that's capable of being hacked for the region code, it's going to be a close race. For the price point, HD-DVD has the decided advantage right now.

Were already near the $300 mark. The HD-A2 with 5 free HD-DVDs is $360ish shipped from Amazon.

The Chinese manufacturers are supposed to have some HD-DVD players sometime in 2007. I'm sure we will get closer to the $200 mark with them.

I wouldn't doubt a $200ish HD-DVD player and a $400ish Blu-ray player by Christmas this year.

HD-DVD titles have been slow the past few months, but there are several titles scheduled for release this spring/summer. The war is far from over.
 

SaoFeng

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destrekor

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Originally posted by: SaoFeng
Originally posted by: UNESC0
Originally posted by: ChAoTiCpInOy
Tell me where you can get a $200 Blu-ray player, then we'll talk.

How about $499?
So a $100 premium for Blu-ray over HD DVD. I own neither - nor a HDTV even; but can see Blu-ray eventually being the 'winning' format considering it's advantages as a storage format in addition to the AV field.

storage issues?
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/003423.html


faulty
one, Toshiba has acknowledged that specific 51gb disc has not been submitted to the 'Forum as others have suggested.
also, it would screw over all current HD-DVD adopters, as there is no way they can get that spec of HD-DVD to work in current players. Reason: the 51gb disc utilizes three 17gb layers. Current HD-DVD spec calls for 15gb layers.

And Sony can bring out a triple-layer 75gb disc. Question remains if current players could play that. Not sure if moving from dual to triple layer would require merely a firmware update or a whole new drive mechanism. no one has claimed to either direction.
 

spacejamz

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From avsforums, here are the scheduled exclusive releases for each side through June:

Pirates and Cars should be huge for blu ray...not sure if Eragon will get delayed or not.

HD DVD
04/03
Good Shepherd, The
04/17
Feast
Game, The
Jerk, The
School for Scoundrels
Smokin' Aces
04/24
Eternal Sunshine
Nutty Professor (1996)
05/01
Alpha Dog
Hitcher (2007)
05/08
Black Christmas
Harsh Times
05/22
40-Year-Old Virgin
Hurricane, The
Skeleton Key
Smokey and the Bandit

Blu Ray
03/20
Big Fish
Chicken Little
Eragon
Finding Neverland
Holiday, The
Rocky Balboa
03/27
Pursuit of Happyness, The
04/03
G.I. Jane
Identity
King Arthur (DC)
Me, Myself & Irene
Natural, The (DC)
Volver
Warriors of Heaven& Earth
04/24
Deja Vu
Night at the Museum
Queen, The
Secret Window
Ultimate Avengers Coll.
05/01
Happily N'Ever After
05/08
Dirty Dancing
Donnie Brasco EC
Revenge DC
05/22
Apocalypto
POTC Curse Black Pearl
POTC Dead Man's Chest
05/29
Basic Instinct
Weeds Season One
06/05
Cars
06/08
Con Air
Crimson Tide
Rock, The

 

elbosco

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I can't wait for September. Season One of Battlestar Galactica and Heroes exclusively on HD-DVD.
 

DivideBYZero

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From a UK standpoint I see Blue Ray movies available, but pretty much NO HD-DVD titles on the shelves. If I had to choose right now I'd choose BR.
 

Red Dawn

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Casino Royale on Blu-Ray and regualr DVD is a long wait at Netflix, typical of all new releases. The only reason I have Blu-Ray is because I have a PS3. If I didn't have the PS3 I would be waiting for the prices to drop and I probably would pick up the least expensive of the two (HD-DVD vs BR).
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: elbosco
I can't wait for September. Season One of Battlestar Galactica and Heroes exclusively on HD-DVD.

I shudder to think what the price of a bluray/hd dvd box set will cost...

But i guess if you can afford the player, the cost of the software wont be a problem...
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Casino Royale on Blu-Ray and regualr DVD is a long wait at Netflix, typical of all new releases. The only reason I have Blu-Ray is because I have a PS3. If I didn't have the PS3 I would be waiting for the prices to drop and I probably would pick up the least expensive of the two (HD-DVD vs BR).

That's why I really like Blockbuster online. I can take movies from the online servce to the store in my town and get free rentals(I got casino royale yesterday as a free rental). Since I have the HD player for my xbox360, I'm forced to get the regular DVD anyways. :thumbsup: to Blockbuster Online.
 

Thraxen

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This format war sucks. I need a relatively cheap dual format player (that isn't gimped) to hit the market. I have a PS3 right now so I do rent BR movies, but there are movies on HD-DVD that I would like to see also. Stupid bastards should have worked this out before all this started.
 

EngenZerO

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glad i got it yesterday morning @ bb.

watched a few scenes last night... it looked amazing...
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Casino Royale on Blu-Ray and regualr DVD is a long wait at Netflix, typical of all new releases. The only reason I have Blu-Ray is because I have a PS3. If I didn't have the PS3 I would be waiting for the prices to drop and I probably would pick up the least expensive of the two (HD-DVD vs BR).

That's why I really like Blockbuster online. I can take movies from the online servce to the store in my town and get free rentals(I got casino royale yesterday as a free rental). Since I have the HD player for my xbox360, I'm forced to get the regular DVD anyways. :thumbsup: to Blockbuster Online.

if only Blockbuster started carrying BD titles in store, then I could make good use of the free rental when returning the online rental to the store. But alas, I don't want to get DVD's anymore. lol
 

KLin

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Feb 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Casino Royale on Blu-Ray and regualr DVD is a long wait at Netflix, typical of all new releases. The only reason I have Blu-Ray is because I have a PS3. If I didn't have the PS3 I would be waiting for the prices to drop and I probably would pick up the least expensive of the two (HD-DVD vs BR).

That's why I really like Blockbuster online. I can take movies from the online servce to the store in my town and get free rentals(I got casino royale yesterday as a free rental). Since I have the HD player for my xbox360, I'm forced to get the regular DVD anyways. :thumbsup: to Blockbuster Online.

if only Blockbuster started carrying BD titles in store, then I could make good use of the free rental when returning the online rental to the store. But alas, I don't want to get DVD's anymore. lol

I'm in the same boat when it come to HDDVD's. They'll eventually start carrying them in stores when more titles are released, then I'll start using my free rentals for those, as well as get HD titles through the online service .
 

foghorn67

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Format war does suck. I'm sure it looks impressive on BR. For now, I am content with HDMI upconvert.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Originally posted by: codeyf
Originally posted by: suicidalpigeon
Veering off the issue: the movie was surprisingly awesome.

qft!

NOT!

it was NOT a James Bond movie...

I found it to be boring, excruciatingly long, and Craig has no charisma... someone else said it was a Bourne movie, not a Bond movie.

It was a pointless film, with an unconvincing ending.

As far as I'm concerned, it does not compare with the rest of the series (which should've ended, anyway, with the last Brosnan flick)

I remember quite a few years ago I read a science-fiction book which had its main characters indifferently passing by a theater showing a film with the 10th Bond actor, this time Bond being an Asian (!).... Now, considering that Sony has had the hots for the Bond franchise since the '70s, it's conceivable that it has played a major part in the decision made by the "electronic Godzilla" regarding the acquisition of MGM Studios... and that it will stubbornly refuse to release it in a competing video format UNLESS BR urns out to be a flop (which I hope will be the case).

Mark my words: allowing corporations to control BOTH the software AND the hardware is a very bad idea.
 
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