Sounds like he posed a huge threat to us all. :frown:Islam, who was born Stephen Georgiou, took Cat Stevens as a stage name and had a string of hits in the 1960s and '70s, including "Wild World" and "Morning Has Broken." Last year he released two songs, including a re-recording of his '70s hit "Peace Train," to express his opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq (news - web sites).
He abandoned his music career in the late 1970s and changed his name after being persuaded by orthodox Muslim teachers that his lifestyle was forbidden by Islamic law. He later became a teacher and an advocate for his religion, founding a Muslim school in London in 1983.
He has criticized terrorist acts by Muslims, including the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the school seizure in Beslan, Russia, earlier this month that left more than 300 dead, nearly half of them children.
In a statement on his Web site, he wrote, "Crimes against innocent bystanders taken hostage in any circumstance have no foundation whatsoever in the life of Islam and the model example of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him."
After the Sept. 11 attacks, Islam issued a statement saying: "No right thinking follower of Islam could possibly condone such an action: The Quran equates the murder of one innocent person with the murder of the whole of humanity."
Yeah, he converted to Islam...Originally posted by: LikeLinus
I assume he's done something that has taken away his right to enter the country.
Originally posted by: Vic
Yeah, he converted to Islam...Originally posted by: LikeLinus
I assume he's done something that has taken away his right to enter the country.
:roll:
Oh yeah, he's been critical of the Bush Administration too.Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Yeah you know everything that goes on with National Security and what this guy has been up to.Originally posted by: Vic
Yeah, he converted to Islam...Originally posted by: LikeLinus
I assume he's done something that has taken away his right to enter the country.
:roll:
Roll your eyes more...its cute.
If I wanted to discuss this with those shitheads, I'd have posted it there, thanks.Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
P&N
Originally posted by: Garuda
There are a limited number of names that Muslims have. It doesn't seem like there are as many Muslim names as there are, for example, Christian names.
He picked a name, "Yusuf Islam", which not surprisingly is shared by a known terrorist.
I'm glad that they detained him personally. Sure he was inconvenienced, but that's better than having American boys having their heads sawed off by the real Yusuf Islam, should he get into this country.
What you people don't seem to understand is that with stricter laws, there comes the greater chance that some people get inconvienced. You have to decide if making Arabs "feel good" is more important to you, or if keeping out all terrorists is.
Inconveniencing 1,000 Cat Stevens is a price which I am willing to pay if it succeeds in keeping out even 1 Mohammed Atta.
Originally posted by: Garuda
There are a limited number of names that Muslims have. It doesn't seem like there are as many Muslim names as there are, for example, Christian names.
He picked a name, "Yusuf Islam", which not surprisingly is shared by a known terrorist.
I'm glad that they detained him personally. Sure he was inconvenienced, but that's better than having American boys having their heads sawed off by the real Yusuf Islam, should he get into this country.
What you people don't seem to understand is that with stricter laws, there comes the greater chance that some people get inconvienced. You have to decide if making Arabs "feel good" is more important to you, or if keeping out all terrorists is.
Inconveniencing 1,000 Cat Stevens is a price which I am willing to pay if it succeeds in keeping out even 1 Mohammed Atta.
The two federal officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, identified the passenger as Islam. They said Islam was denied entry on national security grounds, but had no details about why the peace activist might be considered a risk to the United States.
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Garuda
There are a limited number of names that Muslims have. It doesn't seem like there are as many Muslim names as there are, for example, Christian names.
He picked a name, "Yusuf Islam", which not surprisingly is shared by a known terrorist.
I'm glad that they detained him personally. Sure he was inconvenienced, but that's better than having American boys having their heads sawed off by the real Yusuf Islam, should he get into this country.
What you people don't seem to understand is that with stricter laws, there comes the greater chance that some people get inconvienced. You have to decide if making Arabs "feel good" is more important to you, or if keeping out all terrorists is.
Inconveniencing 1,000 Cat Stevens is a price which I am willing to pay if it succeeds in keeping out even 1 Mohammed Atta.The two federal officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, identified the passenger as Islam. They said Islam was denied entry on national security grounds, but had no details about why the peace activist might be considered a risk to the United States.
Your source?
Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Garuda
There are a limited number of names that Muslims have. It doesn't seem like there are as many Muslim names as there are, for example, Christian names.
He picked a name, "Yusuf Islam", which not surprisingly is shared by a known terrorist.
I'm glad that they detained him personally. Sure he was inconvenienced, but that's better than having American boys having their heads sawed off by the real Yusuf Islam, should he get into this country.
What you people don't seem to understand is that with stricter laws, there comes the greater chance that some people get inconvienced. You have to decide if making Arabs "feel good" is more important to you, or if keeping out all terrorists is.
Inconveniencing 1,000 Cat Stevens is a price which I am willing to pay if it succeeds in keeping out even 1 Mohammed Atta.
heh...they found out who he is and still kicked him out. I know from experience Customs agents are nothing but arseholes, and they give non-white US citizens a hard time. Its like once you leave the country they don't want to let you back in! Arabs and muslims, regardless of the views, are probably sodomized at the airport.
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Garuda
There are a limited number of names that Muslims have. It doesn't seem like there are as many Muslim names as there are, for example, Christian names.
He picked a name, "Yusuf Islam", which not surprisingly is shared by a known terrorist.
I'm glad that they detained him personally. Sure he was inconvenienced, but that's better than having American boys having their heads sawed off by the real Yusuf Islam, should he get into this country.
What you people don't seem to understand is that with stricter laws, there comes the greater chance that some people get inconvienced. You have to decide if making Arabs "feel good" is more important to you, or if keeping out all terrorists is.
Inconveniencing 1,000 Cat Stevens is a price which I am willing to pay if it succeeds in keeping out even 1 Mohammed Atta.The two federal officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, identified the passenger as Islam. They said Islam was denied entry on national security grounds, but had no details about why the peace activist might be considered a risk to the United States.
Your source?
He has none. Cat Stevens is the one and only Yusuf Islam, international peace activist.
And the Jews are building concentration camps for him and the other "evil" Palestinians. Your point?Originally posted by: Garuda
Yasser Arafat is also hailed as an "international peace activist".Originally posted by: Vic
He has none. Cat Stevens is the one and only Yusuf Islam, international peace activist.Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Garuda
There are a limited number of names that Muslims have. It doesn't seem like there are as many Muslim names as there are, for example, Christian names.
He picked a name, "Yusuf Islam", which not surprisingly is shared by a known terrorist.
I'm glad that they detained him personally. Sure he was inconvenienced, but that's better than having American boys having their heads sawed off by the real Yusuf Islam, should he get into this country.
What you people don't seem to understand is that with stricter laws, there comes the greater chance that some people get inconvienced. You have to decide if making Arabs "feel good" is more important to you, or if keeping out all terrorists is.
Inconveniencing 1,000 Cat Stevens is a price which I am willing to pay if it succeeds in keeping out even 1 Mohammed Atta.The two federal officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, identified the passenger as Islam. They said Islam was denied entry on national security grounds, but had no details about why the peace activist might be considered a risk to the United States.
Your source?
Originally posted by: Garuda
Whatever. Don't play that game with me. I'm an immigrant.
Do you know everything about Cat Stevens and his activities? He may have contributed large sums of money to one of those so called "Islamic charities" which are fronts for terrorist organizations. That could have got him on the list. Or he may in fact have some terrorist involvement. Again, do you know everything about Cat Stevens personal life and his activities?
If he's even remotely risky, I don't want him in the U.S. And if in the end it turns out that he was innocent, I don't give a shiite. Like I said, I would rather that 1,000 Cat Stevens are not allowed into the U.S. because of uber strict security measures if it means that 1 Mohammed Atta is caught and also not let in.
Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Garuda
Whatever. Don't play that game with me. I'm an immigrant.
Do you know everything about Cat Stevens and his activities? He may have contributed large sums of money to one of those so called "Islamic charities" which are fronts for terrorist organizations. That could have got him on the list. Or he may in fact have some terrorist involvement. Again, do you know everything about Cat Stevens personal life and his activities?
If he's even remotely risky, I don't want him in the U.S. And if in the end it turns out that he was innocent, I don't give a shiite. Like I said, I would rather that 1,000 Cat Stevens are not allowed into the U.S. because of uber strict security measures if it means that 1 Mohammed Atta is caught and also not let in.
Hey jackass, I know from experience how customs are. Those f*ckers took my brand new car at the border. They charged me with nothing, and banned my canadian, and white girlfriend from the US for 5 years. And you know what, you can't legally challenge customs at the border. I went to three lawyers, and they all said the same thing. They said they knew it was a problem because they seize cars from people all the time and they don't have to prove anything.
And when I was taking the bus back home from Vancouver, the guy sitting next to me was an american born arab. He was pretty cool and spoke better english than I did, and he was going to UW. They detained him for an hour at the border, and it held up the bus. This was in 1999.
Don't tell me sheit. I know how they treat their own citizens, so its not hard to imagine how they treat real foreigners, mainly arabs and muslims.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'd wondered what happened to him!
Originally posted by: Garuda
Nobody stuck a gun in your mouth telling you to come to America. You made that choice. And American border security has the right to do whatever it takes to keep America safe, even if that means making it inconvenient for some people who are trying to come over. Nobody has a God given right to come to America, I can tell you that as someone who went through a long and lengthy immigration process.
Originally posted by: shinerburke
I'm being followed by a big Muslim....big Muslim big Muslim.