See above. He was just here four months ago.Originally posted by: jjones
I have no problem with what they've done. He's had some activity which has made him suspect, regardless of whether or not there is any foundation to the suspicions. No one is saying that he is a terrorist, and no one has incarcerated him, but they are saying that it is just not desirable for the US government to allow his entry. He is not a US citizen and therefore has absolutely no rights regarding entry into the country.
Originally posted by: jdini76
His flight was diverted to Bangor, Maine,
uuummm...isn't that in the US?
Stephen King's gonna kick your ass for saying that. :QOriginally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: jdini76
His flight was diverted to Bangor, Maine,
uuummm...isn't that in the US?
Yeah, but it's in a part of the US noone knows about, let alone cares about.
It's alleged he gave thousands to the militant Palestinian group Hamas, and to the son of blind cleric Omar Abdel Rachman who was believed to have masterminded the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Yusuf Islam denies giving money to terrorists, and claims he thought he was donating to the poor.
Oh no. Some random loser insulted me. Whatever shall I do?Originally posted by: Garuda
Fausto, you suck at the internet.
Originally posted by: Fausto
Stephen King's gonna kick your ass for saying that. :QOriginally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: jdini76
His flight was diverted to Bangor, Maine,
uuummm...isn't that in the US?
Yeah, but it's in a part of the US noone knows about, let alone cares about.
Originally posted by: Fausto
See above. He was just here four months ago.Originally posted by: jjones
I have no problem with what they've done. He's had some activity which has made him suspect, regardless of whether or not there is any foundation to the suspicions. No one is saying that he is a terrorist, and no one has incarcerated him, but they are saying that it is just not desirable for the US government to allow his entry. He is not a US citizen and therefore has absolutely no rights regarding entry into the country.
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
I assume he's done something that has taken away his right to enter the country.
That doesn't mean a thing. Just because he was allowed entry one time, or a million times, does not mean he's allowed entry forever, or that he has any rights to entry. His presence in the US is dependent entirely upon the wishes of the US government - apparently they have decided that he is not desirable. And, to be honest, I wouldn't care if the US government denied entry to any and all foreign born activists. The US has enough of their own homegrown activists to go around.Originally posted by: Fausto
See above. He was just here four months ago.Originally posted by: jjones
I have no problem with what they've done. He's had some activity which has made him suspect, regardless of whether or not there is any foundation to the suspicions. No one is saying that he is a terrorist, and no one has incarcerated him, but they are saying that it is just not desirable for the US government to allow his entry. He is not a US citizen and therefore has absolutely no rights regarding entry into the country.
Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Garuda
Nobody stuck a gun in your mouth telling you to come to America. You made that choice. And American border security has the right to do whatever it takes to keep America safe, even if that means making it inconvenient for some people who are trying to come over. Nobody has a God given right to come to America, I can tell you that as someone who went through a long and lengthy immigration process.
I'm a US born citizen you dolt. My ancestors were brought over here in slave boats. My ancestors have been in this country probably longer than 75% of the people on this board. My grandfather, father, and three uncles served in the Marines, Army and Air Force in Vietnam and WW2. If anyone has a God Given right to be here its me, because my great great grandmother was also Native American. So again, you don't tell me sheit about who I am or what I experienced, since you don't know what you're talking about. The last I'm going to do is listen to some Johny come lately naturalized citizen tell me my status in this country.
Originally posted by: Fausto
Or maybe they're just screwing with him because he's a high-profile muslim male. I guess we'll see if/when they ever tell the media what they were up to.Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Fausto
Read carefully. He was accused of doing so while visiting Israel by an Isaeli news site. They wouldn't, of course, have any reason to smear him, now would they?Originally posted by: FoBoT
he gave money to front groups for Hamas , i don't have a problem with keeping him out of the US
better safe than sorry
i don't think you or I have access to the same information as the US security agencies, so i trust that he was rejected on a valid basis
again, better safe than sorry, just my opinion
Originally posted by: Fausto
See above. He was just here four months ago.Originally posted by: jjones
I have no problem with what they've done. He's had some activity which has made him suspect, regardless of whether or not there is any foundation to the suspicions. No one is saying that he is a terrorist, and no one has incarcerated him, but they are saying that it is just not desirable for the US government to allow his entry. He is not a US citizen and therefore has absolutely no rights regarding entry into the country.
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
I assume he's done something that has taken away his right to enter the country.
I really hope you don't place such blind faith in our government.
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Vic
Oh wow, do you have news sources that no one else is priviledged to?Originally posted by: ThePresence
Kindly refrain from commenting on a subject that you don't have a clue about.Originally posted by: Vic
And the Jews are building concentration camps for him and the other "evil" Palestinians. Your point?
I do have a clue about these things, it's you I think who doesn't. If someone came onto my land, took it from me for no other reason but my ethnicity, bulldozed my house right in front of me with everything I owned inside, and then threw me and my family homeless and penniless onto the street... well, I might feel pretty murderous about that too. Pretty much basic human nature right there. You treat people like animals, you get an animal response.
Now the Israelis are walling the Palestinians in. Do you deny this? Or how else do I not have a clue? The irony of this is not lost on me.
As for Cat Stevens, the Israeli government has no evidence that he gave any money to anyone. When your cause is not peace, then peace activists do indeed become your enemy.
WTF are you talking about? First off, you should know that I lived there and served there, so yes, I might have a source for my news that you are not privleged to. It's called first-hand information, things that I've seen with my own two eyes, not as a quick little biased soundbite on CNN. Do we really have to go into another history lesson about the UN partition plan? Nobody took anything from anyone based on their ethnicity. They were BOUGHT before '48. WTF are you talking about? Do you know that most of the houses that are bulldozed are houses of terrorists trying to kill innocent women and children? Cry me a river, I don't give a damn if they lose their house, maybe another innocent family is sleeping on this Planet tonight because of it. Do you know what would happen in the US if someone just decided to build a house without a permit? They are not treated like animals unless they ACT like animals. The checkpoints are there to protect innocent people from bombs blowing up on schoolbuses and the like. Do innocent Palestinians suffer? Sure, and it sucks. But blame the terrorists for bringing it upon their people. Israel has no choice but to protect themselves. I don't know much about Cat Stevens which is why I didn't comment on this, kinda similiar to how you should not have commented on something you do not know too much about.
Originally posted by: Garuda
There are a limited number of names that Muslims have. It doesn't seem like there are as many Muslim names as there are, for example, Christian names.
He picked a name, "Yusuf Islam", which not surprisingly is shared by a known terrorist.
I'm glad that they detained him personally. Sure he was inconvenienced, but that's better than having American boys having their heads sawed off by the real Yusuf Islam, should he get into this country.
What you people don't seem to understand is that with stricter laws, there comes the greater chance that some people get inconvienced. You have to decide if making Arabs "feel good" is more important to you, or if keeping out all terrorists is.
Inconveniencing 1,000 Cat Stevens is a price which I am willing to pay if it succeeds in keeping out even 1 Mohammed Atta.
Originally posted by: boomer6447
"Year of the Cat" was Al Stewart.
Originally posted by: Nitemare
"He has criticized terrorist acts by Muslims, including the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the school seizure in Beslan, Russia, earlier this month that left more than 300 dead, nearly half of them children. "
and yet he is an Orthodox Muslim....
Isn't that an oxymoron or something?